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Jeff
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Hi all,
Does anyone have (working ;-) contact information to get a hold
of Keith Bostic?
Thanks,
Fred
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Fred N. van Kempen, DEC (Digital Equipment Corporation) Collector/Archivist
Visit the VAXlab Project at http://VAXlab.pdp11.nl/
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Email: waltje(a)pdp11.nl BUSSUM, THE NETHERLANDS / Mountain View, CA, USA
Ed> At 07:49 PM 10/14/2004, you wrote:
>>> Please pardon my ignorance here, I'm going out on a limb ...
>>>
>>> vt50dpy as in VT50/VT52?? VT100's were ANSI, VT50/VT52 were DEC
>>> specific. They used way different programming codes.
>> I suspect I misunderstood the manual when it said "Use VT50DPY for
>> vt50,vt52 and vt100 terminals."
>>
>> The manual also mentions command options like /24 (use 24 lines
>> instead of 12) and /DCA (use cursor control instead of spacing)
>> but I am not sure how to supply those via the run command as in
>> run $vt50dpy /24 /dca
>>
>> like that? It complains that it can't find some file, where run
>> $vt50dpy starts up fine.
>>
>> I suppose I need to make a CCL.. right? :^)
Ed> Ohhhhh RSTS! Light bulb goes off in head - light leaks out nose
Ed> and ears from empty skull.
Ed> Thought that sounded familiar, VT50DPY was the continuously
Ed> updating SYSTAT thing? The "bring the system to it's knees"
Ed> program (along with Plane)? Real VT100's had a hardware VT52
Ed> emulation mode, or you could NOT use DCA and it should run on a
Ed> VT100.
Ed> But, a 7 character program name?? Thought RSTS and the others
Ed> were 6.3?
The name was VT50PY, or DISPLY, or something like that.
In V10.1, that program would do ANSI escape sequences if the terminal
appeared to be a VT100 or above (i.e., a scope with XON support and no
fill). But, judging by the sources, that wasn't available before
V10.1. So you can change the code :-) or you can track down an xterm
with VT52 escape support, or you could add it to xterm (VT52 escapes
are pretty simple...)
paul
------------- Ashley's stuff below (pardon me for leaving the
large amount of the previous message up above. I know someone
will scold me for that)
I have VT50PY (yes that's the name) running on my PDP-11. And yes,
that's the program that used to bring the system to its knees on
weaker systems.
I am out of town right now, but in order to make the thing work, you
have to load the BASIC+ source for (I think) DISPLY.BAS and then
APPEND VT50.DPY (or something like that - I'm saying this from
memory and my memory is faulty). Then COMPILE it, and run it. If
you want to allow non-privileged users to run it, compile it to <232>.
It uses the VT50/VT52 escape sequences to clear and update the
screen, so you need to do VT50/VT52 emulation. It does have a
switch to allow you to use 24 line VT52 mode vs the standard 12
line VT50 mode.
I'll check on the details when I get back home. Sounds like you need
to make sure your terminal emulator is doing VT50 or VT52 emulation.
It runs fine on my real VT52s or on my telnet sessions with VT52
emulation.
Ashley
Vintage Computer Festival 7.0
Saturday, November 6 through Sunday, November 7
Computer History Museum
Mountain VIiew, California
Since the last VCF, the trials and tribulations of daily life made
their inevitability painfully attendant: bills came due, accidents
happened, bad days at the office were had, arguments broke out, and
the morning paper was thrown into the sprinklers yet again. Woe is
us! But lo, a bright and shining beacon of nerdilicious salvation is
on the horizon and draws nigh. The Vintage Computer Festival returns!
Vintage Computer Festival 7.0 is right around the corner, taking place
on November 6-7 at the Computer History Museum in Mountain View in
(still) sunny California. Flights are cheap and so is the admission,
so you have little excuse to stay home cramped behind your computer
trying in vain to craft that perfect Google search term. Just put all
that nonsense behind you and join us for some fanatical Festival
folly!
We are honored to once again have the Computer History Museum as our
sponsor!
And as always, we bring you yet another wonderful line-up of speakers,
exhibitors, and special events, including a 30th anniversary retro-
spective of Maze War, the original "first-person shooter" videogame,
plus so much more!
In fact, we're planning so much for this year's event, it might
possibly be even too much! Some of it we can't even mention yet
because we're still in the middle of planning it. So come on out and
watch us put on a gargantuan geek gala guaranteed to gasify your gall
bladder...either that or watch us crash and burn in spectacular style.
Either way, it's sure to be entertaining!
Exhibitors Wanted!!!
One of the best ways to enjoy the VCF is by participating directly.
Be an exhibitor! As an exhibitor, you get to be a part of all the
behind-the-scenes action. Plus you get a chance to show off your
favorite computer and perhaps even win an award for an outstanding
exhibit. The Best of Show award includes as a prize the Replica 1,
a software compatible re-creation of the legendary Apple-1 computer,
courtesy of its creator, Vince Briel. So don't delay, sign up today!
http://www.vintage.org/2004/main/exhibit.php
More information about Vince Briel's Replica 1 can be found on his
website:
http://home.comcast.net/~vbriel/
We've Got Lodging!
For out of town guests, the VCF has arranged a hotel room block at the
Residence Inn Palto Alto Mountain View, located within 3 miles of the
Computer History Museum and featuing, among other fine amenities, an
on-demand shuttle service between the Inn and the Computer History
Museum. The special VCF rate is US$79 per night. Reservations must
be made by October 15 to take advantange of this terrific rate so do
not delay! Full details are available here:
http://www.vintage.org/2004/main/lodging.php
Computer History Galore!
The VCF speaker schedule has moved back to a "track" style this year.
The talks are assembled into themes for the most part. We've got
another terrific line-up! Check it out:
Saturday, November 6
Track 01
Time Topic Speaker
------- ------------------------------------- -------------------
10:00am Using Vintage Computers in Forensics Fred Cohen
11:00am Documenting the BBS Jason Scott
12:00pm The Art of Textmode Christian Wirth
1:00pm History of FidoNet Tom Jennings
Track 10
Time Topic Speaker
------- ------------------------------------- -------------------
11:30am Confessions of an Entrepreneur Dr. Robert Suding
12:30pm VCF Ramblings Sellam Ismail
1:00pm Computer History Museum Update CHM Staff
Sunday, November 7
Track 01
Time Topic Speaker
------- ------------------------------------- ------------------
10:00am Early IBM History John Sailors
11:00am The IBM 360 Evolution and Revolution Jerome Svigals
12:00pm Early Microprocessor Design Nick Tredennick
1:00pm Maze War Retrospective Panel
Track 10
Time Topic Speaker
------- ------------------------------------- -------------------
10:30am Things You May Not Know... Evan Koblentz
11:30am Tipping Sacred Cows Tom Jennings
12:30am The Art of Vintage Computers Christine Finn
1:30pm Neo-Retro: The XGameStation Andre LaMothe
More information on the VCF 7.0 speakers can be found here:
http://www.vintage.org/2004/main/speaker.php
BBS Documentary Screening
Jason Scott, proprietor of textfiles.com--the Internet's largest
collection of historic textfiles--has completed work on his BBS
documentary. "BBS: The Documentary" spans across seven separate films
which cover every aspect of the world of bulletin board systems,
tracing the history of the BBS as well as the historic figures that
made it a distinctly unique mode of digital communication. This will
be the first public screening of the documentary, and audience input
>from VCF attendees will determine the final cut of the film series.
More information on the screening can be found here:
http://www.vintage.org/2004/main/screening.php
Computer History Museum Tours
As always, the Computer History Museum's terrific staff will be giving
VCF attendees tours of the Museum's fantastic collection. Tours are
held in the afternoon and run every half an hour. Tour information is
available here:
http://www.vintage.org/2004/main/tours.php
Buy, Sell and Trade at the VCF Marketplace
As always, one of the most exciting aspects of the VCF is the
Marketplace, where you can find a large and varied assortment of some
of the most fantastical old computer thingies anywhere. Find that odd
part you've been seeking out for your collection, then touch, smell,
even taste it if you like, before haggling out a deal. There is
simply no better place to buy and sell vintage computers than at the
VCF Marketplace. Vendor booths are still available. For more
information on selling at VCF 7.0, please visit:
http://www.vintage.org/2004/main/vendor.php
The VCF 7.0 BBS is Live!
Communicate with fellow VCF 7.0 attendees on the VCF 7.0 BBS! Set up
trades and carpools, talk about exhibiting, and discuss generally
anything about the upcoming Festival:
http://www.vintage.org/2004/main/bbs.php
So Much More!
Complete information about VCF 7.0, including the speaker schedule and
exhibit roster, as well as lodging information and driving directions,
can be found on the VCF 7.0 web pages:
http://www.vintage.org/2004/main/
Keep in mind that the VCF will from now on be held during the first
weekend in November.
;)
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Just got the below inquiry in.
Wonder if Pakistan has same problems as India?
Seems legit.
But if they found me, they must be scrapping the bottom of the barrel.
The only things I have on the list is 1 LPV11 and some DHV11's.
I'm not going to do anything with it if anyone else wants to,
knock yourself out (go for it, have a ball, have a go, [insert local idiom
here] etc. etc. <g>).
Ed K.
-------------------------------------
Hi
I need the following.
1. DECserver
250 (DSRVP-AA) 05 Nos
Pls confirm, is any software driver required for DECserver 250, if yes then
pls do provide the price for this driver too)
2.
DESTA
05 Nos
3. DS-RZ40-VA 9.1 GB SCSI Hard Disk 22 Nos
4. DS-RZ1EA-VW 18 GB SCSI Hard Disk 12 Nos
5. TLZ 10 (Internal) Tape Drive 12/24
GB 10 Nos
6. TLZ 7 (Internal) Tape Drive 8/12
GB 04 Nos
7. Communication Cable to connect DECServer 250 with LP29 5 Nos.
(BC27A 30 Ft Cable)
8. M
3104 DHV11
03 Nos
9. M
8027 LPV11
03 Nos
10. TF 85 tape
drive 04 Nos
11. 90L Terminal
server 05 Nos
Will appreciate ur early reply.
Best rgds
Muneeb Saeed Rabbani
117, Ahmed Block, New Garden Town
Lahore, Pakistan
Phone NO. 92 42 5842226 & 7
FAX 92 42 5842228
E-mail: <mailto:muneebsaeedr@yahoo.com>muneebsaeedr(a)yahoo.com
<mailto:trojans@wol.net.pk>trojans(a)wol.net.pk
At 10:01 PM 10/14/2004, you wrote:
>The bad news, if that I try to keep it, I will lose the wife. Without
>debating the merits of this trade, let me just say that it will not be good
>financially <grin>
>
>So....What do I do?????
Road Trip!!
Ed K.
\
Looks like I may be doing a rescue of the following in Eastern Conn....
It is a VAX 6000/610.
2 cabinets, approx 1000 lbs total weight.
2 CPU
CMD Technologies DSSI controller
ethernet capable
comes with up to a dozen 2 gig drives( formatted)
covers for the empty drive bays
pretty sure that it is 208 volt single phase, although the drive cabinet has
a 120v 30 amp twist lock connector on the cable. I dont know if this plugs
into the CPU cabinets PSU or what.
VMS docs and manuals
The bad news, if that I try to keep it, I will lose the wife. Without
debating the merits of this trade, let me just say that it will not be good
financially <grin>
So....What do I do?????
Rumor has it that David V. Corbin may have mentioned these words:
>
>The bad news, if that I try to keep it, I will lose the wife. Without
>debating the merits of this trade, let me just say that it will not be good
>financially <grin>
>
>So....What do I do?????
1) where do you live
2) do you already have someone else to take it? (or at least parts of it)
3) how long will your wife believe you when you say "I already have someone
else to take it!" ;-)
If it's a temporary rescue, it'll help others to know where you are...
Depending on the circumstances (distance, timeframe, etc.) I /might/ be
able to ferry parts of it from point A to point B for another list member...
If it doesn't need to be covered/trailered, that would greatly improve
distance calculations... I didn't get a chance to repack my trailer
bearings this fall... :-/
Laterz,
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
--
Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers
zmerch(a)30below.com
What do you do when Life gives you lemons,
and you don't *like* lemonade?????????????
>The bad news, if that I try to keep it, I will lose the wife. Without
>debating the merits of this trade, let me just say that it will not be good
>financially <grin>
>
>So....What do I do?????
It sounds pretty simple to me, don't go.
Zane
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| | Classic Computer Collector |
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I got contacted by an attorney looking for prior art
on ecommerce and shopping carts, especially web-based stuff;
a bunch of lawyers ended up with the OpenMarket patents
and is trying to shake everyone down, ala SCO. Amazon, among
others, are working on busting the patent.
The two early events I know of are:
June-July of '94 my company (Bibliobytes/HKS.net) released
"OrderBook", which was basically a front end that would let you enter
some SKU's and credit card info and would email us an encrypted copy
of the order to be processed and fufilled. You got the SKUs from a
catalog downloaded seperately from a web page, by ftp, or whatever.
Around August 2004, NetMarket, a startup done by four guys from
Swarthmore, started selling CDs over the web.
Anyone know of any other shopping-cart and/or automatic payment
systems that were up and running or publically described
before October of '94?
--akb
