Message: 14
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 22:15:27 -0700
From: ben franchuk <bfranchuk(a)jetnet.ab.ca>
Subject: Re: Emulators of Classic Computers
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
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Sean 'Captain Napalm' Conner wrote:
> It was thus said that the Great Tony Duell once
stated:
>
>>Steve Ciarcia's bomebrew computers (he did several
-- I remember an
8088
>>system in 5 chips, a sort-of PC compatible, a Z8
board without even
>>thinking about it) were based on microprocessors.
But I do remember a
>>Byte article on making a homebrew CPU (from TTL). I
think it was
called
>>'EGO', and hung off a Tandy 2000.
>
>
> I remember that. I still have the Byte magazines
the EGO appeared
in.
> Neat CPU, made for floating point operations if I
recall.
>
> -spc (Fondly remembers bytes from the mid 80s ...
)
But it was micro programed with EPROMS. Nice idea.
Ben.
hey, can u also fwd me a copy of the 'EGO' article ur
talking about. plss.......
i need it desperately...........
pls......
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If I remember correctly, the MINC-11 is just a Q-bus machine with extra
analog/digital I/O for laboratory work. The standard serial I/O on every
DEC machine I've used has been just 3-wire (recieve,transmit, ground),
XON/XOFF, 9600 baud, no parity, 8 bits. You can use Hyperterm IF you
set it up for software handshaking. If you forget to change it, then
the default is hardware handshaking and hyperterm will appear hung.
the m8012 (BDV-11) has two switches on the edge, halt enable and restart.
Halt enable is used to put it into ODT.
Lights: The green led is power ok. if all 4 red leds are on, then the
system is hung; halt switch or power up mode wrong. At least that is
the message in the interfaces handbook.
Make sure your VT102 is not in local mode, they like to switch to that
sometimes.
Joe Heck
Thanks, seems like when I turned the intensity up on the CIT-101 video
terminal the error was
"checksum error NVR 00" and the error was there, even with the MINC-23 off.
NVRAM in the terminal must be bad.
I replaced the C.ITOH model CIT-101 video terminal with a DIGITAL VT-102, I
get the flashing cursor in the upper left hand corner of the VT-102 with no
errors in NVRAM , but the terminal does not talk to the MINC-23. I am not
familiar with how the MINC communicates to the terminal. I have baud rate
on VT-102 set at 9600 for both RX and TX. I do not see even an echo on my
keystrokes on the VT-102. I have no docs on the terminal or the MINC. Can I
use a PC running hyperterm or procomm to talk with the MINC? The M8012 boot
card has 5 LEDs, red,green,red,red,red and all of them are continuously
illuminated. What are the functions assigned for these LEDs?
Hutch
ard(a)p850ug1.demon.
co.uk (Tony Duell) To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Sent by: cc:
cctech-bounces@cla Subject: Re: DEC MINC-11 question
ssiccmp.org
01/16/2004 06:26
PM
Please respond to
"General
Discussion:
On-Topic Posts
Only"
>
>
>
>
>
> Classic comp lister's,
>
> I have MINC-11 ( seems to be a MINC-23 in a MINC-11 box) with the
The field upgrade from MINC-11 to MINC-23 was basically just swapping the
CPU card. Sounds like somebody (not DEC failed circus?) did this and
didn't change the nameplate.
> following:
> It only has these cards inside:
> M8186 CPU
> M7506 MEM
> M8029 RX02 DISK CONT
> M7954 IEEE CONT
> M8043 4510 MUX Card
> M8012 Boot Card
>
> This was a working unit until recently when I consistantly get
> "checksum error KVR 00" on bootup.
That doesn't sound like a DEC bootstrap message. Are you sure it's coming
>from the MINC and not from whatever you're using as a terminal?
-tony
>From: "John lambert" <cncmedic(a)sbcglobal.net>
>
>JACK --- CHEAP QUICK EPROM ERASER--
> SANYO DENKI GERMICIDAL ULTRAVIOLET LAMP
> NO. G6T5 WITH ADVANCE TRANSFORMER CO. NO. LC-4-8-C
>BALLAST 120 V. AN FS-4 FLOURESENT STARTER. A
>RECEPTACLE TIMER TO CONTROL LENGTH OF TIME LAMP IS ON.
>MOUNT LAMP 2.5 CM ABOVE PROMS LOCATION IN AN ENCLOSED
>LIFT LID BOX. A LIMIT SWITCH ON THE LID TO SHUT LAMP
>OFF WHEN LIFTED. SAFETY MEASURE THAT LAMP WILL BURN
>YOUR RETINA'S. JACK AT ESHOP.
Hi
Actually it doesn't hurt your retina, it damages your
cornea. This frequency of uv doesn't penetrate very far
into the eye. This means that extra care is needed
since it isn't just a matter of looking at the light.
Any direct path from the lamp to the surface of your
eye can cause damage. Most reflected uv light is attenuated
quite a bit and is not as dangerous but one should still
design their box to avoid reflective surfaces like
aluminum. Even though 90% or so is lost, these lights
are intense. Cardboard or conductive foam has about
0% reflections. One can get an idea of the reflected
quantity by placing a piece of 'T'shirt near. It will
glow if hit by the uv.
Dwight
Jay West <jwest(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Also have a bunch of old pc monitors that will be hitting the trash,
> not gonna post those!
If there are any original IBM (not clone) VGA monitors or cards, I would be very
interested, so don't trash those please!
MS
Has anyone seen or do they HAVE the Wyse 9000 multiprocessor chassis? This was
a machine built by Wyse around 1990 that was based on Sequent's bus
technology that was a multi-processor system based on 386's or 486's running
Sys V?
Steve Wilson
OK, using a 1 million gate FPGA to replace a 7400 is
overkill, but it would work
--
Not if the FPGA isn't 5v tolerant.
It isn't very likely that a device produced in five years
will be useful as a replacement for 7400 series logic, much
less in 50.
We've left the days of logic level compatibility behind us
unfortunately. 3.3v logic is even disappearing pretty quickly
now, and that didn't last a decade.
Looking for peoples estimate of the value of an ASR-33 with working paper
tape reader/punch (and of course keyboard/print), modem is quite optional.
I am starting to search for one to add to my collection and am not sure what
price range is reasonable these days....
Also if anyone has one that they want to sell (especially if located in
North East US), please contact me directly.
David Corbin
dvcorbin(a)optonline.net
Looking for peoples estimate of the value of an ASR-33 with working paper
tape reader/punch (and of course keyboard/print), modem is quite optional.
I am starting to search for one to add to my collection and am not sure what
price range is reasonable these days....
Also if anyone has one that they want to sell (especially if located in
North East US), please contact me directly.
David Corbin
dvcorbin(a)optonline.net