test-drb September 2003

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507 discussions

by cb＠mythtech.net

>> The reason Sellam never got a response to his query was because I still have >> not caught up on all my emails from being out a few days (funeral). I am > >IIRC, he was grousing about the moderation and management of ANOTHER list. Correct, I was complaining about the lists provided by LowEndMac.com >I have yet to hear any valid complaints about what you do. >Your common sense approach has worked well for us. I've got no complains about the way this list is run. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

21 years, 3 months

Flamingo Dec3000 Model 500

by TRUTHANL＠columbus.rr.com

I am trying to add a user acct to my Alpha System running Dec Unix 4.08. I am logged in as root. When I use the GUI the error message I get when trying to open AcctManager is that bin/x11/dxacct requires system PRIVILEGED access. The dialog box has three choices 1. RUN as ROOT; 2. RUN as ROOT, 3.Cancel : Either run as root times out with no more dialog for create, or what ever.... When I pull up a terminal window and do "who" I see a "root console", a "root TTY", and a third "root :0" user. When I try running DXacct from the Bash 2.02# command line I get a message stating "Another user" has the Passwd and Group files locked - Try again later. What is wrong with my environment? Why three root instances? Can someone suggest A better forum to get such an answer? I am a Digest subscriber, contact me offlist at truthanl at columbus rr com. Sincerely Larry Truthan

21 years, 3 months

YADA10YR (Yet Another Discussion About the 10 Year Rule)

by cb＠mythtech.net

>I agree that the list runs fairly well without a "list nazi" stomping >around policing everyone's posts. I'm on several Mac lists on LEM. I >posted a question on a list and was slapped down by the list police. It >concerned a Daystar Genesis with a G4 upgrade card running OS-X. It >seems that it wasn't welcome on the Powermac list becase Apple didn't >make it. It wasn't welcome on OldMacMP list because it wasn't running >it's original MP processor card and it wasn't welcome on the G-List >becasue it wasn't a factory G-4. The only place it was considered on >topic was on the Unsupported-X list. The LEM lists, while can be helpful, are VERY VERY bad examples of a "nice" list. They are however great examples of how to run a list who's goal is to piss off every subscriber inside of 6 months. The nazis they have as list nannies are unreal, and the list mom may be the worst of the bunch. I think even Sellam would find their level of topic policing to be too much ;-) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

21 years, 3 months

Bell 103 modem standards

by toresbe＠ifi.uio.no

Hell! I just picked up a modem for a classmate (I finance the restoration with tech support - *sigh*), and on the label on the outside, with the supported protocols, and along with the V.24 V.90 yadda yadda there was at the end, Bell 103, Bell 212A...! (I may have the numbers slightly off, but I'm sure about the 103 part). ...Is this a common protocol? In a brochure that came with the DECUS newsletter, about Telecommunications, it mentioned these protocols, and described them as Low-Speed (defined as less than 2000 baud, I believe). This was also mentioned as built-in options for the TTY 33's, and I seem to recall them being mentioned several other places. Is this me being wrong, has the protocol been constantly upgraded speedwise, is the protocol "Just something that stuck around", and therefore direly needing support from every new modem? Or is this just a case of truly, *truly* excellent backwards compat? I mean, the brochure was all in all dated 1967. -Tore (: Lame smilies and RaNdOm CaPiTaLiSaTiOn, oh, and 5(R33P733 57Y13 writing makes you live longer, d00d! OmG! :) :O!!! :)!!!

21 years, 3 months

Need VGA cable for Ampro SBC

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Does anyone have a spare video cable for the Ampro SBCs with built-in video ports? Or a schematic? It uses a 2 x 11 retangular socket. See <http://www.ampro.com/assets/applets/lb-486i.pdf> for a picture. Joe

21 years, 3 months

DEC OS

by jkunz＠unixag-kl.fh-kl.de

On 2003.09.03 23:52 Eric Dittman wrote: > Didn't Linux run on Alpha in 64-bit mode before NetBSD? http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/alpha/ NetBSD/alpha is a true 64-bit system that fully implements the LP64 architecture, using 64-bit pointers and 64-bit long integers (standard integers are still 32 bits) in a linear four terabyte (4TB) address space. NetBSD/alpha was the first free OS to run on the Alpha and supports by far the largest number of alpha system types of any free OS. -- tsch??, Jochen Homepage: http://www.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de/~jkunz/

21 years, 3 months

YADA10YR (Yet Another Discussion About the 10 Year Rule)

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

What TeoZ says has happened/is happening to the Obsolete Computer Helpline, which now, IMHO, has lost most of its usefulness. The classiccmp list seems fairly good at selfpolicing, however. It just sometimes gets off into too much YADA YADA YADA ;) Bob -----Original Message----- From: Vintage Computer Festival [mailto:vcf@siconic.com] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:15 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: YADA10YR (Yet Another Discussion About the 10 Year Rule) On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, TeoZ wrote: > the reason I joined the list. As newer and younger people join the list I > would assume the focus would change to newer equipment. If you want to keep ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Wrong. If the focus of this list ever changes to supporting old PCs then it has effectively died. Old computers don't die. They just get older. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

21 years, 3 months

DEC OS

by rogersda＠cox.net

> > > The *BEST* OS to run on an Alpha is OpenVMS, and you can run MySQL under > > > OpenVMS, but I think it takes some effort. > > > > Err, now THAT is what I call flamebait. > > Not really. OpenVMS is the best OS for Alphas, since OpenVMS is the best overall > OS. :-) Took the words right out of my mouth. ;) Dale, the DECdude

21 years, 3 months

Digital DSM Disribution tape

by luc＠e2t.be

Someone asked a few weeks ago for a copy of the DSM distribution tape.(9track 1600bpi) I found it back this afternoon (by accident in a search for some other old stuff) To make it clear - this is the native version of DSM (Digital Standard Mumps) version 3.3 and it runs only on PDP11 not on vax or other PDP's Min. machine on UNIBUS = 11/40 on QBUS = 11/23 If someone can tell me how to make it available I have my ears wide open; or if someone is willing to do that's even better gr. Luc

21 years, 3 months

TMS2564 ?

by uban＠ubanproductions.com

Hello, I am trying to update the firmware in an old BBN BitGraph terminal and it uses four TMS2564 EPROMs, which from what I have been able to determine (see here: http://www.spies.com/~arcade/schematics/ROMref.txt ) are not compatible with a standard 2764. I suppose that I could make four adapters, but if I can find the correct parts, that would be better. Does anyone have four TMS2564-45 (or better) that they would be willing to part with? --tnx --tom

21 years, 3 months

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test-drb September 2003