Technically ;) Autodesk sells the user only one license, which gets transfered to the new software version as it is upgraded. Therefore, the only way you could get a copy that would be even marginally legal would be if the user stopped using AutoCAD or purchased a complete new copy to replace the old one. I haven't had to do a regular upgrade since about Release 10 (where I work now is at an AutoCAD Registered Developer, so we have different licensing terms), but at that time, you had to return the original of the serialized first program disk in order to get the upgrade.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe [mailto:rigdonj@cfl.rr.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 11:41 AM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: RE: Looking for plot data files
At 08:56 AM 8/25/03 -0600, you wrote:
>You can get a DXF-to-HPGL converter (such as
http://www.imagespro.com/programs/2287/ ), then send the HPGL to the plotter.
>
>As far as getting an old copy of AutoCAD, you can pretty much forget that.
I was referring to picking on up surplus. I see them quite often around
here.
Joe
<snip>
At 07:18 AM 8/25/03 -0600, you wrote:
>I thought /U was "unconditional", meaning that you cannot later reverse
the formatting and recover the previous data. Without /U, FORMAT would save
a hidden copy of the FAT (or something like that), IIRC, making it easier
to recover from the format. My MS-DOS 5.0 manual says that with the /U,
FORMAT "Destroys all existing data on a disk", whatever that means.
I think you are entirely correct. But AFIK the /U and /Q only apply to
formatting floppy disks. However I could be wrong about that.
Joe
>From: "Ben Franchuk" <bfranchuk(a)jetnet.ab.ca>
>
>Ernest wrote:
>
>> There's something kind of disturbing about it. I feel both awe and pity.
>> It's hard to imagine what a collection like that would cost to build, in
>> both financial and emotional terms.
>And keep it going, how long does the game software stay on a eprom with out
>going bad or getting Zapped?
>
Hi
I have some 1702's programmed in '73 or '74 that still contain
the correct, original information.
Dwight
Hi Jules
The most common problems of these machines are:
1. small bits of the belt rubber stuck to the pullies.
2. dirty or magnitized head
3. sticking bearings or screw in head assembly.
I clean the surfaces of the pullies by dragging a knife
along the surface while spinning. This is the most over
looked cause.
Dwight
>From: "Jules Richardson" <julesrichardsonuk(a)yahoo.co.uk>
>
>Hi,
>
>Does anybody know of any resources on the 'net for Shugart 801 8" drive info?
>(data / power connector information, PSU voltages etc.)
>
>I have one in a machine with booting problems and I'd like to do some initial
>diagnostics on.
>
>cheers
>
>Jules
Hi all,
I've just grabbed a copy of the MOS Technology "MOS Microcomputers Hardware
Manual", dated January 1976, MOS publication number 6500-10A from
http://www.spies.com/~aek/pdf/ . I've already got a (poor quality) reprint
of the August 1975 version (publication number 6500-10). Does anyone know
what - if anything - was changed in the January 1976 revision of the manual?
Is it worth my while printing the newer manual out again and having it
spiral-bound? I was going to print out the MOS Programmer's Manual (doc
#6500-50A) anyway.
Alternatively, does anyone have original copies of these manuals or the
Synertek or Rockwell equivalents? An original MOS Hardware Manual and
Programmer's Manual would be nice to have around, but I can live with a
laser-print or photocopy if need be.
Thanks.
--
Phil. | Acorn Risc PC600 Mk3, SA202, 64MB, 6GB,
philpem(a)dsl.pipex.com | ViewFinder, Ethernet (Acorn AEH62),
http://www.philpem.dsl.pipex.com/ | 8xCD, framegrabber, Teletext
... Acme Corp: Unlimited credit for disadvantaged coyotes.
You can get a DXF-to-HPGL converter (such as http://www.imagespro.com/programs/2287/ ), then send the HPGL to the plotter.
As far as getting an old copy of AutoCAD, you can pretty much forget that. AutoDesk has been very aggressive at maintaing their IP. The only version I have found on the web is one customized for the DEC Rainbow. There were some other 2D CAD packages such as TurboCAD that could read DXF, and were available as trial or free versions. You could Google for an older version that is compatable with your plotters.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: hansp [mailto:hansp@citem.org]
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 3:56 AM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Looking for plot data files
Mail List wrote:
> Hans,
>
> I think the "cut-away drawing of the space shuttle" was a demo .dxf
> file that came with AutoCad.
Thanks for the pointer. Searching for DXF on the web throws up a bunch
of possible stuff. Now to figure out how to plot DXF files cheaply!
I think the shuttel picture goes back further than that. Tektronix used
it extensivly in their promotions of the 40xx series, that would be late
70's
-- hbp
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I thought /U was "unconditional", meaning that you cannot later reverse the formatting and recover the previous data. Without /U, FORMAT would save a hidden copy of the FAT (or something like that), IIRC, making it easier to recover from the format. My MS-DOS 5.0 manual says that with the /U, FORMAT "Destroys all existing data on a disk", whatever that means.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Cisin [mailto:cisin@xenosoft.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 5:16 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Low Level Format
<snip>
If /U is active, then it at least "VERIFIES" every cluster.
<snip>
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I have a few DEC BA42 Storage Expansion boxes available here, with
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Free to anyone who can collect them from North Bristol (UK). E-mail
me for full details of what disk(s) are in what boxes.
--
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