>Anyone got one of these drives or a pointer to the software on the 'net? No
>problem booting the machine under DOS to access the tape drive - I doubt
>there's any (free) NT software around that'll read the format on those tapes.
>That's assuming the information on them hasn't vanished anyway of course...
I have an old Iomega 250 tape drive, also uses a floppy interface. I
think I still have the original software for it. I'll check Monday and
let you know. If I have it, I can make disk images and post them
somewhere for you (IIRC its 5.25 disks)
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
Message: 38
Subject: Re: Iomega floppy tape drives + software
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 12:23:30 -0400
From: chris <cb(a)mythtech.net>
To: "Classic Computers" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
> >Anyone got one of these drives or a pointer to the software on the 'net?
> I have an old Iomega 250 tape drive, also uses a floppy interface. I
> think I still have the original software for it.
problem solved as it happens - but thanks anyway! Turns out I'd been clever and
stuck an image of the software disk onto CD - I just found it by chance whilst
hunting some other stuff out.
(the disadvantage of list digest mode - I had to wait until I got the digest
with my post in before I could reply, as I couldn't remember the subject line
:-)
cheers
Jules
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Hi all,
Being a new comer to the hobby, I have not posted much on the forum
before. The subject however is one that has recently been brought to my
attention, and hopefully will bring about some debate.
Here is the scenario. You've just come home from the Antique
show/Trash and treasure/garage sale. You've picked up a nice new toy,
hopefully at least a little less than the price you should have paid. (With
the blessing of the other half of course) You know it's not a worker and have
a general idea of the condition of course. You just can't wait to get it back
to the workshop. You take the cover off and......
How much do people think is too much restoration??? Now obviously
you aren't going to spent thousands on a system that even in the distant
future will not even generate hundreds, and obviously you aren't going to
rebuild and replace every part in the item, because then it's a replica not an
antique. Obviously however a going system is more valuable than a broken one.
So to what lengths do you go to fix it?? For quite some time I have had in my
possession a fairly old system that I am told is "historically significant".
For those that know what one is it is an EDUC-8 a descrete logic
CPU/Programming trainer from the mid 70's. There seems to be two main
opinions among computer collectors.
Opinion 1: The collector who collects entirely for the sake of owning
the object in question and is not concerned about operating it or whether the
item works as planned. They will buy an antique for preservation and think it
is sacrilegious to do any restoration other than maybe a "spit and polish".
Opinion 2: The collector who collects with the intention of
restoration. Who might go to extreme lengths to rebuild and restore the item
he has brought, because to him the idea of keeping something that isn't
working as planed is against God and nature.
Without getting into protracted discusion about the theology of either
collector, I would like to hear the opinions on the list about how far a
restoration should go before it starts detracting from the value of the piece.
I know this is a complex issue, and obviously depends on allot of factors, but
surely there are SOME guide lines that should or could be followed. I am about
to start a complex restoration on the EDUC-8 and am hoping the experts on the
list will give me some ideas based on their experience with other systems.
Idealy I would love the thing to be actually working. Possibly with some
replica I/O interfacing. I must say the the system is at best in "fair to
poor" condition, and without some attention it will probably deteriate
further. I supose I could just clean it up and place it in a "display case"
but I tend to be a collector of more the second opinion than the first.
Obviously however I do not wish to "distroy" the "vintage" significance of the
unit either
Hope to hear from you soon.....
Peter T.
> (Let's see, I have the 1350, a DEC GT40, and a Vectres
> (yes, I know I don't like video games, but this thing
> has a vector display and a 68A09 processor, so it's worth
> getting ;-))).
Of things vector display ish ..
One full sized and one 'baby' Atari BattleZone with two
extra board sets. (That's where Big Brother got their rumble
sound effect BTW.) One Asteroids board (works ok on a Philips
scope) and most of a Tail Gunner (no case, no controls and
the sound board is wrecked).
One day they'll all work.
Lee.
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Hello,
I've been developing 'device drivers' for some HP1000 boards to allow
those devices to be run under a freeware HP
operating system and programming language. There are a few boards I
don't have documentation for, but would like
to offer drivers for.
Here is a list of HP interface manuals I'm looking for:
59310B BUS I/O - the standard instrument control HPIB bus interface board.
91200B TV INTERFACE - apparently a NTSC bit-map video display board.
12554A 16-BIT DUPLEX REGISTER - I understand and use this board, but I
have one or two that need repairs.
12968 ASYNC COM INTERFACE - apparently the BACI boards little brother?
12972 8-CHANNEL ASYNC MUX - 8 RS-232 serial ports on a single I/O card.
The top 3 are higher in priority than the last two.
hi all,
I stumbled across a load of old QIC 80 tapes of mine today and got curious as
to what might be on some of them. I managed to dig out the relevant tape drive
>from storage (it's an Iomega drive - 3.5" bay sized - with a floppy interface;
slow as hell from what I remember!)
I haven't used this thing for years but plugged it into a machine running NT4.0
- amazingly NT detected it and has installed low-level drivers for it, so I'm
hopeful that the drive will still work. Of course I have no software for NT
that'll read the format on the tapes...
Problem - can't find the relevant DOS software either. I probably chucked the
floppies a few years back knowing me :-)
I do remember way back (actually would have been 1993 or so - just on topic for
the list!) using another vendor's software under DOS though. Software was for
the Jumbo series or drives that were around at the same time; different vendor
but it worked with the Iomega drive too. Not that I can find a floppy with that
on either :-)
Anyone got one of these drives or a pointer to the software on the 'net? No
problem booting the machine under DOS to access the tape drive - I doubt
there's any (free) NT software around that'll read the format on those tapes.
That's assuming the information on them hasn't vanished anyway of course...
cheers
Jules
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madyn(a)ix.netcom.com (Harvey White) writes:
> I'll have to see if I can find data on HP-IL, might be worth rolling
> an interface for it, or just stick to the IEEE-488....
The most common configuration was a 9121 or 9122 floppy disk drive attached
via HP-IB aka IEEE-488.
I used to be the product support engineer in the factory for the 163X family
circa 1986, and probably still have a full, annotated service manual at
somewhere... but I'm on the other side of the planet at the moment and won't
be home for several weeks.
Bdale
>As others have mentioned, Fedex Ground is usually cheaper.
Just watch it on the FedEx Ground pick ups. They charge an $11 weekly fee
for each week a pickup occurs in (one fee, as many pickups and packages
in the week as you want). If you send rarely, this can very easily negate
the price savings over other carriers like UPS since you can't spread the
fee across multiple packages.
Of course, you can do what I do and just drop the package off at a FedEx
depot and then they don't charge you the fee.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
This was forwarded to me from one of the lists, a thread about "What to
visit while in the bay area" and I
suggested Halted. "Jim" was looking for a particular kind of Hard Disk
Drive...
Here's the answer for Jim.
I work for Halted, but please don't email me directly with product
inquiry please
send them to sales(a)halted.com
You'll get much better service that way.
Ron
(just a counterdroid at Halted)
Begin forwarded message:
> From: Sales <sales(a)halted.com>
> Date: Sat Jun 14, 2003 12:51:08 PM US/Pacific
> To: Ron Hudson <rhudson(a)cnonline.net>
> Subject: Re: Halted Website
>
> We do not have the drives you are looking for. You might try Corporate
> Systems Center (CSC) for these drives.
> Richard Kolber.
>
>
> At 08:23 AM 6/12/03 -0700, you wrote:
>
>
>> On Wednesday, June 11, 2003, at 08:42 AM, Jim wrote:
>>
>>> Ron,
>>>
>>> Thanks. Rather than try to dig through the website, I'll just ask.
>>>
>>> You guys got a couple 6-10gb ATA drives? If so, how much shipped to
>>> 97883?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>> We might, we have a selection of IDE disk drives in that range.
>> I will cc: my reply to sales(a)halted.com so you can get a better
>> answer.
>>
>>
>>
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