Hi Erik,
My name is Cary Orange and I'm searching for the BASIC listing of an
old computer game called DUKEDOM. I used to play this game many years
ago when I owned a TRS-80 Model I computer. I'd like to find the game
and port it to the PalmOS platform in an effort to revive the game.
Based on input I've received from one of the game's contributors I
think it might be printed in the February, 1980 issue of Creative
Computing magazine (1980, Volume 6, Number 2). If not to inconvenient
would you mind verifying this BASIC listing in your archived issue of
the magazine? I'd really be interested in getting a hard/soft copy of
the program listing to this game. Many Thanks!
Sincerely,
Cary Orange
caryo(a)yahoo.com
Hi,
An Able-computer controller is offered on Ebay
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2737483185&category=1247
If I remember well, this could be a combined disc/tape-controller...
does anyone have more details?
Is the rather high price justified by some special features?
Thanks,
Frank
Radio shack dot com or whatever they a calling
themself this week - has old and new owners manuals on
thier web site.
i was surprised to find the manual for thier 8 track
recorder and the r2r they sold long ago.
Bill
Message: 16
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 07:48:52 -0700
From: Krome Mail <kromemail(a)shaw.ca>
Subject: Realistic MPA-35 owners manual
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org
Hi Chris,
If you still have an owner's manual for
the Realistic
MPA-35
I would sure appreciate a copy. Thank you. T. Moore
--__--__--
Hi,
Another one for the sake of the archives more than anything - a few more
non-Torch docs that turned up amongst my haul of Torch stuff, some of which are
likely quite (very?) rare...
Acorn Stuff
---------------
Acorn Econet system user guide
Acorn Atom user manual
Acorn Basic manual (4K integer Basic; manual is dated 28/7/1980)
Acorn Technical Manual - dated 1979, for a 6502-based SBC. Display is quoted in
the manual as being 9 digits with the leftmost one unused, which may identify
the machine. Possibly a System 1-4 ??
Acorn 6809 users manual - dated 1980, this looks to be for a SBC a little more
'modern' than the one above. There are fragments of schematics in the manual,
plus an overview of the board layout, construction guide, monitor ROM listing
etc. but no complete schematic.
A binder which looks to have been Acorn internal. Has the following A4
sections:
Acorn DOS manual
Acorn 6502 ADE
Econet v1 technical manual
Econet v1 user manual
Econet v2 user manual
Econet harddrive mods (schematics and notes)
Econet specification document (marked as provisional)
Atom Disc Pack construction notes, schematics etc. (anyone got a dump of the
ROM to go with this?)
Atom "Disatom Super ROM" specifications doc - whatever one of those is!
Atom Toolkit and Monitor ROM manual, by a P. T. Blenkinsop (written beneath
it says "with apologies to M Bates and Steve Wozniak" :)
Acorn System 5 Handbook
Acorn documentation - more official-looking stuff:
BBC OS v1 spec,
BBC disc interface details,
Document called "A redefinable telesoftware format" - was that what went on
to become prestel in the UK?
Internal document announcing a BASIC interpreter being ready for the systems
3/4/5/6/8. I wonder what the systems 6 and 8 were? Far as I know only 1-5
existed in the wild, followed by the Atom and the BBC - with the Proton
evolving into what became the BBC. Maybe 6 was the Atom - but the document goes
on to specifically mention the BBC as a seperate case, so that wasn't a System
8... and where did 7 go? Curious! :)
BBC micro speech system user guide.
Internal doc detailing Acorn DOS entry points for the system 3, 4 and Atom.
"Operating Instructions for the Progressive Establishment Testing System for
the BBC Microcomputer". Blimey. Documentation for a hardware unit that hooked
up to the BBC machines in order to perform hardware tests on them for engineers
by the looks of it. Wonder if any of the hardware still exists? :-)
"Operating Instructions for the Final Inspection and Test System for the BBC
Microcomputer". Blimey again. Did these ever even see the light of day? Seems
to have been another hardware unit for use by field engineers but I've never
heard of it before.
BBC 1MHz bus spec document.
AIM 65 Stuff
------------
AIM 65 Schematic
Forth user's manual
PL/65 user's manaul
Monitor program listing
Basic language reference manual
Instant pascal user's manaul
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On Jun 25, 18:21, Jules Richardson wrote:
> CP/N hard disk utilities (single floppy, hand-written label)
> Torch hard disk utilities (single floppy, again just hand-written
label)
Hmm... Could I get a copy of those? I think I have the correct MCP ROM
somewhere here.
> Floppy with a Torch label on saying "spell binder" - no idea!
Spellbinder was a CP/M word processor similar to Wordstar. The only
other time I've seen it in the flesh was on an Exidy Sorcerer.
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Hello,
I am restoring an 11/70 with a BA11-F chassis which uses 17 4.7"x4.7"x1.5"
115v muffin fans (as they all do) and need to find a good source for
replacements. Does anyone have any suggestions?
--tnx
--tom
Hi all,
Picked up a huge pile of old Torch hardware, software and manuals from someone
today. The guy worked for the company who took things over when Torch went
under way back when, and grabbed whatever he could when that company eventually
disappeared too. Anyway, I've got a nice pile of spares, schematics and the
like, and probably the most complete set of Torch documentation anywhere...
I'll stick the documentation and software in a seperate mail and just list the
hardware here. Everything needs a damn good cleaning and checking over before I
attempt to see what still works! Pictures can follow in a few days, but I'm
reorganising all my data at the moment and don't want to confuse myself by
adding anything halfway through :-)
Oh, I don't know the damn naming convention for D-type connectors, so
everything's a 'D' type to me. Apologies in advance...
Triple X 'prototype'
--------------------
Supposedly this was a prototype of a Triple X machine used in-house by Torch,
presumably for development purposes. I'm not 100% convinced yet but I haven't
yet been inside it! It's built into two seperate grey metal cases (hard &
floppy disk / CPU) - certainly not production-quality either, but the official
badging suggests it perhaps wasn't a homebrew project either, so who knows.
- Top metal case houses hard disk and floppy in metal case; rear just has
power and 50-pin SCSI connector.
- Bottom slice is the CPU box; there's a standard-looking Triple X keyboard
attached (cable runs through a hole in the case). The front has power LED only
and stuck-on label reading: "XXX iss.2 in disguise" :-) The rear has the
following with 'proper' lettering:
50 pin SCSI running to disk unit
Low-volts out (via bodged connector) for disk unit
"Video" (small hole in case only)
"Torchnet" (small hole in case only)
"Disc interface" (blanked off)
RS423 (25-w D female)
Parallel (25-w D female)
RGB (round DIN, 8 pin)
Cassette (round DIN, 7 pin)
Reset button (I assume)
Mains AC input
Power switch
"Torch Hard Disc"
-----------------
This thing weighs one hell of a lot! 2-tone brown metal case, with inbuilt
floppy, hard drive, and monitor. Data sticker gives the model as a C520 and the
serial as 84472645
Power supply is in a seperate unit (see below) but still feeds mains into the
machine via seperate plug by the looks of it, presumably for the display
circuitry.
Back-left corner:
Keyboard socket (15-w D female)
Reset (??)
Contrast ?
Back-right corner:
Mains in (probably!) - from power supply unit
19-w huge round connector to mate with power supply
Rear:
UHF socket
RGB (6-way DIN)
Cassette (7-way DIN)
Analogue (15-way D female)
RS423 (25-way D female)
Printer (25-way D male)
The keyboard has a regular spacebar plus a small key to the right labelled
'exact space' - curious.
"Torch HD Power Pack"
---------------------
For use with above machine. Guess they ran out of space in the main case :)
Has the following:
Mains AC input
Mains AC out (I assume??) via short trailing lead
19-way round connector to mate with above machine on a short trailing lead
Power switch (likely!)
Reset button (?? If so, what's the pushbutton on the main system unit for?)
Torch-725
---------
This may be a Quad X machine; if so then there aren't many of them left I
expect! It is according to the previous owner, but it doesn't say so on any of
the badging. Case is grey steel, about the size/shape of an IBM XT case. Data
sticker gives the model as a "725/U" and the serial as "84022913"
At the front we have:
2 x slimline 5.25" floppy drives
Hard disk led visible through window cut in the case
Power led
Whilst at the rear:
Reset button
Keyboard socket, 15-w D female
Phone-jack type connector (Mouse? Or alternate keyboard socket - I have
keyboards with both type of connector? Or modem?)
"RS423 #1" - 25-w D female
Parallel - 25-w D male
Blanked ports: "RS423 #2", "RS423 #3", "Extension bus", SCSI, X25
Analogue port, 15-w D female
Torchnet port, 5-w DIN
RGB 6-w DIN
Mains in
Mains out
Switch (power I assume!!)
Large grille for cooling fan
Monitors
--------
One of these should work with the 725 above, another with the Triple X
'prototype' I guess.
Single Torch Triple X 13" monitor, model CM13. 8-pin DIN input.
Two Torch Triple X 10" monitors, model CM10. 8pin DIN input
Unknown 14" RGB monitor, 15-w D type female input. Likely nothing to do with
the Torch systems but I guess it'll probably work given a suitable cable.
Keyboards
---------
One of these for torch-725 presumably, which doesn't have an 'obvious' keyboard
like the C520, and doesn't have one attached like the 'prototype'.
Four Triple X keyboards; with 6-pin phone-type flat plugs on trailing leads
and 6-pin phone-type flat sockets on back of the keyboard (for mice?)
Two Cherry-made XT-style keyboards with 15-pin D-type male connectors on
trailing leads.
Mice
----
I believe the previous owner said the C520 was too old to use a mouse, but the
other two systems should support them I think.
Anyway, I have six Triple X mice using 6-pin phone-type flat plugs. The cover
for one came off and fell down a convenient drain though - whoops... (there are
only ever drain covers around when you have something useful to drop down them)
Misc
----
Torch Z80 disc pack - grey metal case for two half-height 5.25" drives; it's
been stripped of drives but I think the psu is intact. I believe this needs an
interface card (which may well be amongst the cards listed below)
Triple X PSU (or so I was told; not having a 'genuine' Triple X I don't
know!)
Box of genuine spare Quad X PAL chips and eproms
Box of spare Triple X PAL chips and eproms
Box of spare BBC/Torch eproms (presumably for 68k boards etc.)
Floppy drives
-------------
The owner was having a clear-out so I took a few off his hands - a couple I
noticed were Torch-labelled.
Four full-height IBM XT style units
Five half-height units hand-labelled as 1.2MB
Seven half-height units hand-labelled as 360KB
Eighteen (!) unknown capacity drives.
Five of the unknowns are still bagged and unused.
Hard drives
-----------
Unknown models / capacities as of yet... not had time to delve into them.
Four 5.25" MFM drives, one labelled as Quad X and may still have an OS
intact.
Three 3.5" MFM drives.
Tape drives
-----------
Possibly for Quad X? Anyway, there are a couple of 5.25" HH units; not given
them more than a brief glance yet so not sure of manufacturer / capacity /
interface.
Spare boards
------------
Couple of boxes of spare boards came with everything... all connectors are
dual-row IDC type sockets unless I say otherwise :)
Two Torch Computers 68000 boards. 68k and Z80B CPUs on board, 4 pin
single-row connector (power I expect) and 40 pin data connector. I believe
these plug into the BBC machines so that they can run Torch's version of CP/M?
One is a later model than the other and badged as an Atlas board.
Three Torch Z80 Communicator boards. Z80A CPU on board, 40 pin data
connector. Another BBC plugin? The owner had hundreds of them apparently and
most of them went to landfill a while ago.
Unknown Torch Z80 card. 40-pin connector at one end, 26-pin connector at the
other. Z80A CPU and SIO chips on board, plus 6522A and an 8255 chip. ROM is
Torch labelled as CCCP V1.02
Three Torch internal (internal to what, though?) modems - 40-pin connectors,
plus 4-pin single-row for power. Several 40-pin chips: Z80 PIO, MC6803,
EF68A21P. ROM is Torch, labelled as "ADM5 2.1". Also a TM2016 chip on board
(memory I believe) and a 28-pin IC branded as "world-chip".
Two oddball "modems". I don't even know if that's what they are :-) 2x 4-pin
single-row connectors, 14 pin single-row connector, then a long trailing lead
terminated in a 5 way rounded jack plug. I've not seen those jack plugs on
anything before, but it's possible old UK phone exchange equipment might have
used them - anyone? There's very little in the way of logic on the boards -
it's all analogue. Boards are 6" x 7". Trailing lead goes into a large white
plastic 'box' in one corner of the board. On top of this, apparently as an
afterthought, is a glued-on smaller black box out of which come two leads that
connect back to pins on the 14 pin connector. Hardware hacking at its best...
Right, the following appear to all be protocol convertor / interface boards for
various storage devices. All are on boards around 6" x 8" in size, and all have
a single 4 pin power connector (I may have manuals for all of these; I haven't
got that far yet!):
Seven issue 3 Torch manta boards, for converting between SCSI and floppy
interfaces.
Single issue 5 Torch manta board
Four OMT boards (model 5200) with a 50 pin connector, 2x 34-pin connectors
and 2x 20 pin connectors. SCSI (or SASI?) to MFM disk?
Single OMT board with a 50 pin connector, 34-pin connector, and 4x 20 pin
connectors. maybe SCSI (or SASI?) to MFM disk again?
Four Xebec boards with a 50 pin connector, 3x 20 pin connectors and single
34-way edge connector.
Single Xebec board with a 50 pin connector, 2x 20 pin connectors and single
34-way edge connector.
Two Archive boards with a 50-pin connector at one end and a 50-way edge
connector at the other.5 LEDs by the power connector. Tape interface of some
sort, presumably?
Single Emulex board, 2x 50-pin connectors at opposite ends of the board. Hmm.
Tape again?
Single Adaptec board, 2x 50-pin connectors at opposite ends of the board.
Single Western Digital board (labelled WD1002-05), 2x 34-pin connectors, 3x
20-pin connectors, and a singe 40-pin connector. Only thing I can think of with
40 pins is IDE and it's too early for that I'm sure (last chip date is 1983)
I *think* that's all of it, for now. The guy I got these from had several rooms
piled up with stuff; he said he used to have a few 'proper' Triple X systems
and is surprised he threw them out, so they may still be lurking somewhere.
Same goes with other genuine Torch spares, drives, software, cables etc.
There was a Quad X-on-a-card which I had my eye on but the guy still uses some
of the other cards in the rack for various things, so I couldn't get hold of
that.
List of manuals and software to follow...
cheers
Jules
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On Jun 25, 19:30, Jules Richardson wrote:
> Acorn Technical Manual - dated 1979, for a 6502-based SBC. Display is
quoted in
> the manual as being 9 digits with the leftmost one unused, which may
identify
> the machine. Possibly a System 1-4 ??
No, it wasn't a System device. That's the original Acorn SBC, I think.
I've got the matching User's Manual.
> Acorn 6809 users manual - dated 1980, this looks to be for a SBC a
little more
> 'modern' than the one above. There are fragments of schematics in the
manual,
> plus an overview of the board layout, construction guide, monitor ROM
listing
> etc. but no complete schematic.
Mine has a fold-out circuit diagram inside the back cover.
> Atom Disc Pack construction notes, schematics etc. (anyone got a
dump of the
> ROM to go with this?)
Yes :-)
> Document called "A redefinable telesoftware format" - was that what
went on
> to become prestel in the UK?
The same basic CET (Council for Educational Technology) format was used
for BBC Telesoftware (on Ceefax), Prestel (Micronet800, Viewfax258 etc)
and a few bulletin boards (including Acorn's own Support Information
Database -- SID). It went through a few revisions, but the basics
didn't change. I wrote some software for that.
> "Operating Instructions for the Progressive Establishment Testing
System for
> the BBC Microcomputer". Blimey. Documentation for a hardware unit
that hooked
> up to the BBC machines in order to perform hardware tests on them for
engineers
> by the looks of it. Wonder if any of the hardware still exists? :-)
Probably. I'll pay money for one -- I still have most of the other
Acorn test equipment. A PET was used to diagnose faulty systems; it
could deal with pretty dead machines and/or some obscure faults --
though an experienced engineer could usually do it just about as fast
without it.
> "Operating Instructions for the Final Inspection and Test System
for the BBC
> Microcomputer". Blimey again. Did these ever even see the light of
day? Seems
> to have been another hardware unit for use by field engineers but
I've never
> heard of it before.
Yes, I've got one -- and every Beeb I've ever repaired has passed the
FIT. You need the software for it; I think the basic A version is
printed in the manual but there's a B version as well (is that also in
the manual? I've got one, but not to hand). Every Approved Service
Centre was required to have one.
There's a companion set of "Test Procedures For The ..." 6502 2P, Z80
2P, Prestel adaptor, Teletext adaptor, ... and other test equipment
such as the Watchdog for an Electron and a PIT (sort of combined
FIT/PET) for later machines, and an Econet test box.
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On Jun 25, 18:19, Jules Richardson wrote:
> Picked up a huge pile of old Torch hardware, software and manuals
>from someone
> today.
A nice haul :-)
> The keyboard has a regular spacebar plus a small key to the right
labelled
> 'exact space' - curious.
Probably to generate a "non-break space" -- character 160 (0xA0) in ISO
8859 -- used for tables and things where you don't want the text
formatter to change the spacing between words.
> Torch Z80 disc pack - grey metal case for two half-height 5.25"
drives; it's
> been stripped of drives but I think the psu is intact. I believe this
needs an
> interface card (which may well be amongst the cards listed below)
Unusual. Production ones were brown. They have a 34-way ribbon cable
which plugs in to the Beeb disk interface, and carries the standard
SA400-style interface signals. No other interface required.
> Two Torch Computers 68000 boards. 68k and Z80B CPUs on board, 4 pin
> single-row connector (power I expect) and 40 pin data connector. I
believe
> these plug into the BBC machines so that they can run Torch's version
of CP/M?
Not CP/M, that was the board below. These would run a Unix derivative,
I think.
> Three Torch Z80 Communicator boards. Z80A CPU on board, 40 pin data
> connector. Another BBC plugin? The owner had hundreds of them
apparently and
> most of them went to landfill a while ago.
Sounds like the normal Torch Z80 board, to run CPN.
> Unknown Torch Z80 card. 40-pin connector at one end, 26-pin
connector at the
> other. Z80A CPU and SIO chips on board, plus 6522A and an 8255 chip.
ROM is
> Torch labelled as CCCP V1.02
That's definitely to run CPN. CCCP is the Console Command <something>
Processor part of CPN; usually paired with MCP on the Beeb. The 8255
and the 6522 probably make up the Tube interface.
CPN, by the way, isn't CP/M. It looks and feels similar, and *some*
CP/M software is compatible, but not all -- the memory map is
different.
> Three Torch internal (internal to what, though?) modems - 40-pin
connectors,
> plus 4-pin single-row for power. Several 40-pin chips: Z80 PIO,
MC6803,
> EF68A21P. ROM is Torch, labelled as "ADM5 2.1". Also a TM2016 chip on
board
> (memory I believe) and a 28-pin IC branded as "world-chip".
TM2016 is a 2K x 8 (bytewide) static RAM, pin-compatible to a 2716
EPROM (except for the /WR line, of course). Your "World Chip"" will be
an AMD7910 (or possibly AMD7911) FSK modem chip. It was very clever
for it's day; it does a range of baud rates and Bell and CCITT tones.
Over here, it was used in Miracle Technology modems and many others in
the mid '80s. It goes up to 1200 baud half duplex or 300/300 full
duplex.
> Four Xebec boards with a 50 pin connector, 3x 20 pin connectors and
single
> 34-way edge connector.
> Single Xebec board with a 50 pin connector, 2x 20 pin connectors
and single
> 34-way edge connector.
SASI interfaces to ST412-compatible drives. The 50-pin connector is
the SASI (predecessor to SCSI) interface; the 34-pin is the drive
control bus, and the 20-pin connectors are the data lines.
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Right, I also have a Hitachi DK512S-17 with 170MB, this drive is just SMD, not SMD-E.
There are even specs on
http://www.mbiusa.com/dk512s.html
or www.pc-disk.de
Pierre
cctech(a)classiccmp.org schrieb am 25.06.03 01:17:15:
>
> On 2003.06.24 21:36 Ethan Dicks wrote:
>
> > Are there any non-SMD-E drives in the the 5.25" size?
> I have a Hitachi 514s of around 380 MB and a Seagate 1.2 GB 5.25" disk.
> I think they are both SMD-E.
>
> If anybody has any detaild information about the Seagate ST-41097J or
> ST-41201J bejond "st41097j.txt" or "st41201j.txt" please share it with
> me. I have no description of the DIP switches, so I can't use the drive.
> But a 1 GB 5.25" SMD disk would be so nice on one of my PDP-11s or
> VAXen...
> --
>
>
> tsch??,
> Jochen
>
> Homepage: http://www.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de/~jkunz/
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