test-drb April 2003

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FA HP disk drive and computer manuals (9826, 9836, 9122 more)

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I've just finished putting some HP computer and disk drive manuals on E-bay. I previously listed some HP software manuals and I'll be adding more as time permits. <http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=rigdonj>. Also listed a NEW unassembled Heathkit kit on there if anyone is intersted. Joe

21 years, 8 months

Piracy was Re: HH drives

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Pirating is not something that should be condoned on this list. I don't want to start a battle, so I'm not going to comment beyond this email... but... shouldn't "pirating" be something that IS condoned on this list? At least under the idea of "abandonware". After all, without some degree of software piracy, it is highly unlikely that a good chunk of the hardware this list is interested in would have any useful software available to it. I very much support the idea of abondonware, and I would think that idea is very much in this list's interest. However, it is in many cases still piracy. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

21 years, 8 months

Numbers of systems available

by vcf＠siconic.com

I took Doug's advice and called Tom Fischer who took over IMSAI's operations when they went bankrupt. The number of IMSAI's produced is as follows: "According to a July 2002 e-mail from the IMSAI 8080 creator Joe Killian, "I remember passing the 17,000 mark. I believe it never went past 20,000" [between December of 1975 and September 1979]. Fischer-Freitas Company produced another 2100+ machines between November 1979 and June 1986. These machines can be identified by the Fischer-Freitas Company back panel label." This is right on the front page of imsai.net. More detailed information can be found here: http://www.imsai.net/history/imsai_history/imsai_pre_history.htm These numbers are not broken down by front panel vs. turnkey system, so it's still not readily known what the split was in terms of those counts. IMSAI also sold a number of other machines. Here's a nice summary (still being edited by Tom so some inaccuracies exist): http://www.imsai.net/support/imsai_systems.htm -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

21 years, 8 months

New Toy! :-)

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Found another HP 1000! Third one in three weeks. I think this one is a keeper. Got ALL the cables including the AC power cables, the interface panel, the CPU (2113E with option 065) and 1 MW of memory, boot loader ROMs for HP 264x terminal, CS-80 hard drives and HP 79xx disk drives, plenty of interface cards and a HP 12979 I/O Expander chassis. Best of all, this one was untampered with so everything was there and where it was suppsoed to be and I was able to mark where all the cables, etc all went to. The only thing that I've found wrong with it so far is two broken switches on the front panel from where they kicked it off the truck! It had a 7914 hard drive attached but I left it behind. I've never found one worth taking home. Pictures at <http://home.cfl.rr.com/rigdon14/hp1000/>. Joe

21 years, 8 months

HH drives & DRDOS

by Innfogra＠aol.com

There is another clue in this. I thought it booted DRDOS from the first message. I am not really familiar with DRDOS but I suspect a disk formatted under that would be different from formatting under MS or PCDOS. Do check your BIOS settings and battery. Paxton Astoria, OR

21 years, 8 months

IBM Kingston

by vance＠neurotica.com

I really wish IBM Kingston hadn't closed. That place was neat. Anyone here used to work there? Peace... Sridhar

21 years, 8 months

HP Laserjet Series II

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

> God bless you John! > > Mine has just started having paper getting stuck on the "teeth roller" > underneath the larger one next to the green felt "hot" area. It needs a new > smaller roller cause worn out. There are a number of rollers that look like > this, how do I tell which one it is in order to order the right one? Take a look at the PrinterWorks web site (http://www.printerworks.com/). They have exploded diagrams of the printer (you have an 'SX engine') with all the parts identified. You should be able to get a part number for each roller. -tony

21 years, 8 months

collecting silicon wafers

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Hi Not necessarily. If these have been passivated, your finger prints can be cleaned off. If not, the sodium will have destroyed the functioning of the transistors. Dwight >From: "Chandra Bajpai" <cbajpai(a)attbi.com> > >Before anyone goes in trying to cash in their wafers...I assume any >wafer that was not kept in a clean room environment is worthless. The >couple of wafers I have finger prints so they definitely are worthless! > >-Chandra > > >-----Original Message----- >From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org] >On Behalf Of Dwight K. Elvey >Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 5:24 PM >To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >Subject: RE: collecting silicon wafers > >>From: "Vintage Computer Festival" <vcf(a)siconic.com> >> >>On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Dave Wilson wrote: >>> My only anxiety is that the general interest in collecting >>> silicon may take off in a big way before I have managed to build >>> up a workable stock. >> >>Indeed. Just try to keep a "Silicon Wafers" category from being >created >>on eBay for as long as possible and you'll be in the clear for a while >:) >> > >Hi > Even wafer collecting can have monetary value. A while back, at >the beginning of the last Middle East action, there was a military >requirement for mil spec TTL parts. I don't recall which but >I believe it was 74139's that were in short supply. Anyone >with a wafer of these could just about name their price. > The fact is that most companies consider the wafers as >proprietary information. They would rather destroy it or send >it back to the foundry to be recycled. Wafers that do make >it to the outside world are usually from some company that >has shut down and had a warehouse of overstocks. >Dwight

21 years, 8 months

DEC Network Equipment Up For Grabs

by rene＠creative-computing.com

Hello, I received this distribution list address from a friend of a friend. I have the following equipment for free. Either come and pick it up or pay to have it shipped to you. Rene ******************* > 2 DECnis 600s fully populated (spare power supply, spare cards, mostly memory/CPU) Lan Cards/Wan Cards/FDDI/ATM in both MPC 1 Processor Several Adaptor Cables for WAN Cards > 2 DECnis 500s Lan/ Wan Cards MPC 11 Processor > 1 GigaSwitch ATM 5 Slot Fully Populated / Management Card / MMF Cards / Dual Power Supply > 2 DECconcentrator 500 Fully populated 1 is okay //// 1 Doesn't Power on but the cards are good A/B Ports on Management Card 2 Slave cards are all M Ports > 2 500Mhz Desktop Alphas (DEC Unix or OpenVMS) FDDI Cards / Enet Cards CD Rom / Floppy (Small Blue Desktop machine) > 1 InfoServer Tower (6 Slot CD for OpenVMS) > 2 Proteon ClamShell Routers Digital Rebranded as RouteAbout ES > Several CSU/DSUs These are not Modem Eliminators 56KB Mostly Cray // Can be setup Back to Back Thanks for looking. Rene

21 years, 8 months

Items For Free ???

by junkmale＠mindspring.com

Hi Just joined the list and came across this in the October archives from Rich Beaudry. Sorry but I don't know if I can contact you off list. I know the posting is a bit old but I thought it would not hurt to ask. I am looking for one or more IBM 3270 Microchannel cards for a pet project of mine. If you (or anyone else) still have this one card available I would be happy to pay the shipping costs and even offer a couple of dollars for your trouble if you like. I could use more than one if anyone else has any that they are willing to part with. Thanks for your time, Michael

21 years, 8 months

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