I have an Olivetti M-18P-2 portable (in a carry-around case) which was built
by Olivetti before they became involved with AT&T. It has a hard drive
(Western Digital), floppy drive and built in 9" monitor (mono). I have the
original disks/software (PC-DOS 3.1) and software disks (Wordstar, Calcstar,
Spellstar, etc). Is anyone interested in this machine?
Its amazing what some people throw out.
I just got back from a bit of dumpster diving. I pulled from a sizable
bin:
2 - HP LJ III (but only one letter size paper tray)
HP LJ 4
HP LJ 5L
about 25 Meridian phones, and left probably as many behind. I wasn't able
to find the KSU so I didn't bother pulling any more phones out.
Some various Digital parts and cables consisting of at least: a dot
matrix looking printer, a "Remote Services Console Unit" (whatever that
is, looks like maybe a terminal switch box), a A/B switch box, looks like
maybe for printers. It has a plastic key taped to the top, that I am
guessing goes to the actual DEC CPU, but I wasn't able to find that. A
keyboard. A whole bunch of cables. Possibly some manuals, maybe other
stuff (at times I was just shoveling things into my van without really
looking at it)
Assorted power, phone, and printer cables
Canon Laser Faxmachine
2 - 14" VGA monitors.
Royal timeclock
Epson FX-256 printer manual (didn't realize I grabbed it, I left the
printer behind).
2 Ribbons for the FX-256
1up and 3up tractor feed address labels (a box of each)
2 Platronics Headset bases (but only one headset)
A Karioke machine
Maybe more stuff... I haven't sorted thru it all yet, I'll probably start
that task Monday.
Things I left behind (that I saw): Epson FX-256 printer, 3- SilentWriter
Faxmachines, Panasonic Electronic Typewriter, Princeton EGA(?) monitor,
PS2 keyboard (label said it had bad keys), AT keyboard (I broke it while
extricating it, I didn't realize I was standing on it when I pulled on
the corner). 25 or more Meridian phones and cables.
I wasn't able to find the Meridian KSU, nor the DEC CPU. But they could
be down there somewhere, along with who knows what else. It was getting
cold, and my flashlight was getting dim. I don't think I will bother
going back, so if anyone else is in my area and wants to dig, the
dumpster is outside the Gold's Gym behind Paramas Park Mall in Paramus NJ
(Actually outside the Weight Watchers, but most people know the building
by the Golds Gym. I think Weight Watchers is the one tossing everything
judging by the actual garbage that is in the dumpster, but the phones
look like too many for them, so they might be from the Remax realestate
also in that building, they would also make more sense on the computer
equipment). I will probably stop in to Weight Watchers and Remax Monday
at lunch and ask if they are the ones tossing the stuff, and if so, if
they still have the KSU and the DEC CPU, and if they are tossing them as
well.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
Hi Joe
Yes, you are right. It was just a little brain rot on
my part.
Dwight
>From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com>
>
>Dwight,
>
> Are you sure that you're not thinking of the older UPP-103 EPROM programmer?
I know that it uses a 4040 but IIRC I've opened up an iUPP-201 and I THINK it
used an 8085. The iUPP-201 looks kind of like a calculator with a keyboard on
the right side and a single line LED display above it. On the left side next to
the keyboard is large socket for the personality adapter. The personality
adapter has the socket for the EPROM or other device to be programmed. The older
iUPP-103 looks like a box with a sloping front. It has two EPROM sockets on the
right side. The personality is controlled by cards that go inside the box. FWIW
I picked up several more iUPP-103s with the massive load of intel stuff that I
got just before Christmas. I found some of the cards for them but alas no CPU
cards. Need any parts?
>
> Joe
>
>
>
>At 05:24 PM 3/3/03 -0800, Dwight wrote:
>>Hi Joe
>> When I was back at Intel, I was responsible for the test
>>used by the system test on the UPP units. I can tell you a
>>little bit about them.
>> First, I have no idea what a "upgraded the RAM memory"
>>means. These used 4002's. These work on the 4004/4040
>>bus. They are completely incompatable with other types
>>of RAM's and they also have input ports on them ( or
>>maybe it was output but I think it was inputs ).
>>The internal orginization is not compatable with ordinary
>>RAM's either( not a simple power of two type addressing ).
>> The main controller board has a 4040 uP with some ROM
>>( 4001's ). This ROM was addressed as
>>bank0. Each of the two slots for the personality cards
>>was addressed as Bank0 for slot 0 and Bank1 for slot 1.
>>This way, personality code could be accessed on either
>>bank to run the particular operation. The code on the
>>controller board ran the handshake with the parallel
>>port to the Intelec system.
>> I wish that I'd saved the schematics I'd had at Intel
>>but I was not as smart then. I'd also made a board that
>>I'd plugged into a Intelec system in place of the 4040.
>>It allowed me to test the hardware and compare ROM code
>>to make sure every thing was correct. This is also long
>>gone.
>> I once even had the ROM code for these.
>>Dwight
>>
>>
>>>From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com>
>>>
>>>Hi Robert,
>>>
>>> Do you have any info on the internal hardware for the 201? I have one
>>that's dead.
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>At 12:01 PM 3/3/03 -0500, you wrote:
>>>>Just resurrected my Intel iUP201 Universal Programmer,
>>>>and am writing the control software for it (which will be
>>>>available for free).
>>>>
>>>>I'm wondering if anyone out there has any modules for it
>>>>that they want to get rid of? I currently have the
>>>>2708/2716/2732...27128 module and the 27128/27256 module.
>>>>I've also upgraded the RAM memory on the programmer.
>>>>
>>>>I'm in Ottawa/Ontario/Canada, but will pay shipping worldwide.
>>>>These things are pretty light.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>-RK
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Looking for Digital Equipment Corp. PDP-1 through PDP-15 minicomputers!
>>>>Robert Krten, PARSE Software Devices +1 613 599 8316.
>>>>Realtime Systems Architecture, Consulting and Training at www.parse.com
Hi Joe
When I was back at Intel, I was responsible for the test
used by the system test on the UPP units. I can tell you a
little bit about them.
First, I have no idea what a "upgraded the RAM memory"
means. These used 4002's. These work on the 4004/4040
bus. They are completely incompatable with other types
of RAM's and they also have input ports on them ( or
maybe it was output but I think it was inputs ).
The internal orginization is not compatable with ordinary
RAM's either( not a simple power of two type addressing ).
The main controller board has a 4040 uP with some ROM
( 4001's ). This ROM was addressed as
bank0. Each of the two slots for the personality cards
was addressed as Bank0 for slot 0 and Bank1 for slot 1.
This way, personality code could be accessed on either
bank to run the particular operation. The code on the
controller board ran the handshake with the parallel
port to the Intelec system.
I wish that I'd saved the schematics I'd had at Intel
but I was not as smart then. I'd also made a board that
I'd plugged into a Intelec system in place of the 4040.
It allowed me to test the hardware and compare ROM code
to make sure every thing was correct. This is also long
gone.
I once even had the ROM code for these.
Dwight
>From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com>
>
>Hi Robert,
>
> Do you have any info on the internal hardware for the 201? I have one
that's dead.
>
> Joe
>
>
>
>At 12:01 PM 3/3/03 -0500, you wrote:
>>Just resurrected my Intel iUP201 Universal Programmer,
>>and am writing the control software for it (which will be
>>available for free).
>>
>>I'm wondering if anyone out there has any modules for it
>>that they want to get rid of? I currently have the
>>2708/2716/2732...27128 module and the 27128/27256 module.
>>I've also upgraded the RAM memory on the programmer.
>>
>>I'm in Ottawa/Ontario/Canada, but will pay shipping worldwide.
>>These things are pretty light.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>-RK
>>
>>--
>>Looking for Digital Equipment Corp. PDP-1 through PDP-15 minicomputers!
>>Robert Krten, PARSE Software Devices +1 613 599 8316.
>>Realtime Systems Architecture, Consulting and Training at www.parse.com
.Does anyone have the specs/pinout for the 60-pin and 26-pin SMD disk drive interface?
--
I have it scanned, i'll see about getting it pdf'ed and up
at www.spies.com/aek/pdf/cdc
Hi Dave
Oops, This was after my time there. Thanks for correcting
me.
Dwight
>From: "Dave Mabry" <dmabry(a)mich.com>
>
>Dwight and all,
>
>The UPP was the 4040-based eprom programmer. Joe and Robert are talking
>about the iUP-201. It's been a long time, but I also upgraded the
>memory on mine. I doubled it. I think from Intel it could have either
>of two sizes of ram chips populating it. Probably a jumper or such to
>change it from the smaller chips to the larger ones. Sorry to be vague
>about it, but I seem to only be able to remember bits and pieces of that
>life. Just ask Joe! ;-)
>
>
>
>Dwight K. Elvey wrote:
>> Hi Joe
>> When I was back at Intel, I was responsible for the test
>> used by the system test on the UPP units. I can tell you a
>> little bit about them.
>> First, I have no idea what a "upgraded the RAM memory"
>> means. These used 4002's. These work on the 4004/4040
>> bus. They are completely incompatable with other types
>> of RAM's and they also have input ports on them ( or
>> maybe it was output but I think it was inputs ).
>> The internal orginization is not compatable with ordinary
>> RAM's either( not a simple power of two type addressing ).
>> The main controller board has a 4040 uP with some ROM
>> ( 4001's ). This ROM was addressed as
>> bank0. Each of the two slots for the personality cards
>> was addressed as Bank0 for slot 0 and Bank1 for slot 1.
>> This way, personality code could be accessed on either
>> bank to run the particular operation. The code on the
>> controller board ran the handshake with the parallel
>> port to the Intelec system.
>> I wish that I'd saved the schematics I'd had at Intel
>> but I was not as smart then. I'd also made a board that
>> I'd plugged into a Intelec system in place of the 4040.
>> It allowed me to test the hardware and compare ROM code
>> to make sure every thing was correct. This is also long
>> gone.
>> I once even had the ROM code for these.
>> Dwight
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com>
>>>
>>>Hi Robert,
>>>
>>> Do you have any info on the internal hardware for the 201? I have one
>>
>> that's dead.
>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>At 12:01 PM 3/3/03 -0500, you wrote:
>>>
>>>>Just resurrected my Intel iUP201 Universal Programmer,
>>>>and am writing the control software for it (which will be
>>>>available for free).
>>>>
>>>>I'm wondering if anyone out there has any modules for it
>>>>that they want to get rid of? I currently have the
>>>>2708/2716/2732...27128 module and the 27128/27256 module.
>>>>I've also upgraded the RAM memory on the programmer.
>>>>
>>>>I'm in Ottawa/Ontario/Canada, but will pay shipping worldwide.
>>>>These things are pretty light.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>-RK
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Looking for Digital Equipment Corp. PDP-1 through PDP-15 minicomputers!
>>>>Robert Krten, PARSE Software Devices +1 613 599 8316.
>>>>Realtime Systems Architecture, Consulting and Training at www.parse.com
>>>
>>
>> .
>>
>
>
>--
>Dave Mabry dmabry(a)mich.com
>Dossin Museum Underwater Research Team
>NACD #2093
Use Norton/Symantec's "Ghost." It practically copies anything to disk and
back again. Once you've ghosted it to disk, its browsable under Windoze,
and, as long as you don't change ANYTHING using any Windoze utilities, you
should be able to Ghost it back to a working drive for your lagacy system.
Cheers!
Ed
San Antonio, Tx, USA
-----Original Message-----
From: Doc Shipley [mailto:doc@mdrconsult.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 11:56 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: making disk images
On Sun, 2 Mar 2003, Robert F. Schaefer wrote:
> Anyone know of an easy to make and restore disk images on peasea hardware?
> I've got a few on-topic boxes that I want to use for projects, but I also
> don't want to blow away the existing software as some of it is interesting
> and hard-to-replace. Bonus points if the image is browsable after moving
> but it must be able to restore to an identical state from basically the
bare
> metal. What I'm thinking of is a NetBSD boot disk with enough software in
> the ramdisk to dd an image onto and off of an NFS mount, but before I
start
> in on it I was wondering if anyone else had a solution.
Tom's Root/Boot Disk
http://www.toms.net/rb
Doc
I'm surprised it didn't occur to me earlier to ask what I'm about to on the list. ;-)
Fellow classic'ers, I have a very specific set of old radio service software packages that require running. Since they were written back when the 386 was still in the "Ooooh, Ahhhh!" phase, and discontinued soon after, they won't run reliably (if at all) on anything newer than a 486.
Here's what I'd like to find. A small tower-style 486, mini or mid, with PS/2 type ports for keyboard and mouse built in. Speed-wise, it should be in the DX33 or DX2/66 class. It should have switchable "Turbo/Non-Turbo" mode, either from a front-panel switch or from a keypress combination. Finally, it needs to have at least two PCI slots in addition to the usual ISA or EISA.
I also have a need to dual-boot such a box into Windows 95 to do some instrument control applications. As you might imagine, finding a system that straddles this odd middle ground is not easy. It is my understanding that both Compaq and Dell made systems that were very close to, if not exactly, what I'm describing.
Pentium systems, even the earliest ones, will NOT work in this application. It's gotta be a 486.
ALTERNATIVE: If someone can find me a late-issue National Instruments MicroChannel GPIB card, I can put the PS/2 tower I have here into the application, and it should do just fine.
Please let me know if you have something that's at least close, and some idea on price or trade. Thanks much.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy,
Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com
ARS KC7GR (Formerly WD6EOS) since 12-77 -- kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com
"I'll get a life when someone demonstrates that it would be superior
to what I have now..." (Taki Kogoma, aka Gym Z. Quirk)
