test-drb December 2003

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by aw288＠osfn.org

Clearing off the shelves a bit... 1) Cisco 72-0791-01 V.35 DTE cable - 6 feet or so, Cisco serial to V.35 $2.00 2) Box of Five 3M DC600A Cartridges, all new and still in plastic. $2.00 (for the whole box) 3) Xilinx XACT 2000/3000 PGA Dev System Reference Guide, new, no disks. $2.00 4) CommShare 700M Acoustic Coupler, ancient, looks current loop (thats Teletype, folks), looks complete but untested. $5.00 5) DEC G727A Bus Grant Continuity card. $1.00 6) Digital Research MP/M-86 Command Summary booklet, from 1982 $2.00 First come first served, pretty much. Buyer pays S&H. If anyone wants a box of DD 3.5 inch disks for free, I'll throw that in if you buy something. I take Paypal (but DO NOT use this email address for the account). See, I said not much money. William Donzelli aw288(a)osfn.org

20 years, 5 months

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by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Dec 2, 1:12, Pete Turnbull wrote: > I've set a Reply-To: in this message > to see if that's what's doing it... Looks like it is. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

20 years, 5 months

leaky batteries!

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Dec 1, 15:28, Marvin Johnston wrote: > > Pete Turnbull wrote: > > > > > For quite a while, I had a small bottle of Acid Flux that was > > basically > > > Muriatic Acid, and it worked like a charm. > > > > Actually, it was probably mostly zinc chloride, made by dissoving > > granular zinc (or old battery cases) in hydrochloric acid. Known here > > as Bakers Fluid. The raw acid would be too strong, and lose its > > efficacy too quickly. > > No, it was Muriatic Acid according to the label. I went looking for it > after I ran out (it lasted about 10 years) and when I couldn't find it, > I bought the Muriatic Acid. I'm surprised -- but I'm sure you're right. > My understanding is that Muriatic Acid is > 33% strength Hydrochloric Acid. Sounds about right. Concentrated pure hydrochloric acid is about 36% w/v; left exposed to air it fumes and gradually loses HCl; common concentrated acid is 32%-33%. Muriatic acid is a technical (well, industrial, really) grade and contains impurities as well as being subject to loss. Be careful with it; apart from its corrosive nature, you know you're not supposed to store it in proximity to certain other things, such as ammonia, bleach, etc? > I used quite a bit of it for cleaning > tin-lead plating when I still owned the printed circuit shop. To head > off comments I've heard before, tin-lead gets plated (NOT solder), and > the tin-lead later in the process gets fused to form the solder alloy. *I* won't argue with that description :-) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Dec 1, 16:03, Vintage Computer Festival wrote: > On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Pete Turnbull wrote: > > > For a little while, I've been mildly surprised to see that when I reply > > to posts, I end up generating a reply to both the list and the original > > poster. > I've noticed some messages I've replied to are like this as well, though > not all. For instance, this one wasn't. Whenever I reply to one of > Witchy's messages then it behaves as you describe. Witchy, what are you > doing to your headers, young man? :-) Dwight's are like that too. I've set a Reply-To: in this message to see if that's what's doing it... -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

20 years, 5 months

Why one should never give an interview

by jontitus＠comcast.net

I sympathize with people who get misquoted and who find incorrect things attributed to them or associated with them. If someone approached you about an interview, as a condition for the interview, always insist on: 1. Reviewing direct quotes such as, Fred Smith says, "Computers made before 1981..." 2. Reviewing indirect quotes such as, According to Fred Smith, computers made before 1981... 3. Any reference to you or your company, organization, etc. If a writer or reporter won't give you the opportunity to review what he or she intends to put into print, decline the interview request. If you go ahead with an interview, insist on taping it for your protection. If your company has a person in a marketing-communication or public-relations role, insist they sit in on the interview to help protect you from misquotes or misunderstood information. Maybe a reporter from the NY Times or the Wall Street Journal won't let you see a story before it goes into print. OK, don't talk with them. Recently, the WSJ did a terrible job of relating information provided in an interview by Warren Buffett, the investor. Buffett wrote to say the article missed the point of his concerns, but the WSJ defended it's incorrect interpretation of the information he provided. Several readers also wrote about the awful job the WSJ reporter did. I trust journalists less and less, and I trust TV journalists not at all. Jon Jon Titus 36 Sunset Drive Milford, MA 01757-1362 USA +1-508-478-8040 jontitus(a)comcast.net Member: National Association of Science Writers

20 years, 5 months

Help needed:Setting up a KDA50

by cheri-post＠web.de

Hi all, I could use some help on setting up a KDA50-Controller in a VAX 4000/200 as I'm interested in connecting a RA-92 to it (the VAX has no drives installed so far!) so that NetBSD or VMS can run on it. The backplane contains the KA-660 Board with extra Memory (MS650), a KLESI- and a KFQSA-Controller (DSSI), respectively. Typing "config" in the Console-Mode gives out the adress fopr the SDI-Controller, if I type in KLESI, KFQSA and KDA50. I installed the controller directly behind the KFQSA-Board with the address given by config. When I type "show qbus" after powering on the Vax, the KDA50 isn't diplayed. Doing the same routine described above without the KLESI- and KFQSA-Controller brings no result. Can the KDA50 be noticed by the "show qbus" command ? The cycling pattern described in the user guide appears every 4 seconds, that's why I think that the boards work properly. How do I know that the VAX found the KDA50 ? Any hints or ideas? Thanks alot for your help in advance Pierre ______________________________________________________________________________ WEB.DE FreeMail wird 5 Jahre jung! Feiern Sie mit uns und nutzen Sie die neuen Funktionen http://f.web.de/features/?mc=021130

20 years, 5 months

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by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

For a little while, I've been mildly surprised to see that when I reply to posts, I end up generating a reply to both the list and the original poster. This evening I realised (yes, I'm slow :-) It's the cold weather :-)) that the Reply-To: header inserted by the list software has been changed to include both. Is this deliberate? Did I miss a discussion somewhere? Am I opening an old can of worms by even mentioning it? ;-) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

20 years, 5 months

leaky batteries!

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Dec 1, 14:17, Marvin Johnston wrote: > > I use Muriatic Acid for cleaning (alkaline) battery residue ... a drop > at a time :). It works wonders on cleaning most of the residue. Try a > drop and see if you get a good foam reaction. If so, then it will most > likely do the job. In any case, it shouldn't hurt the plastic. I've never tried that, but it would seem logical. I wondered what the brown stuff really is, hence my suggestion to try a mild alkali (good for organic junk, like cardboard-in-battery-goo). Muriatic acid, by the way, is hydrochloric acid. Used for cleaning paving slabs, concrete, etc, amongst other things. > For quite a while, I had a small bottle of Acid Flux that was basically > Muriatic Acid, and it worked like a charm. Actually, it was probably mostly zinc chloride, made by dissoving granular zinc (or old battery cases) in hydrochloric acid. Known here as Bakers Fluid. The raw acid would be too strong, and lose its efficacy too quickly. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

20 years, 5 months

Disk hardware emulation, was Re: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?

by aek＠spies.com

> Doesn't ST506 have analogue elements to the interface, and a tight relationship to the host controller with which the drive was formatted? -- With the exception of SMD and ESDI, most small disc interfaces used an analog PLL data separator for read data for the drives. There was a LOT of variation in sector encoding formats (differing ECC schemes, RLL data encoding, etc.) Another problem to consider is how to map sector lengths that aren't 512 bytes onto modern discs.

20 years, 5 months

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by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Dec 1, 17:24, der Mouse wrote: > > For a little while, I've been mildly surprised to see that when I > > reply to posts, I end up generating a reply to both the list and the > > original poster. This evening I realised (yes, I'm slow :-) It's the > > cold weather :-)) that the Reply-To: header inserted by the list > > software has been changed to include both. > > That's news to me. Here's the Reply-To: I see on your message: Yes, that's the odd thing -- it's not *all* messages. My reply to Witchy earlier showed the symptom, because Witchy's message had both addresses in the Reply-To:. Yours, however, doesn't, and mine didn't. A few others I've replied to also had two addresses, but most seem just to have the list address. I wonder if some people are mailing the list with a Reply-To: already set, and the new version of mailman is adding to it instead of replacing it? Witchy? Did your message have a Reply-To: when you sent it? > Something else must be responsible. Maybe something is mangling the > Reply-To: on its way to you, or maybe your user agent is sending to the > From: address as well as the Reply-To: address.... No, it's the Reply-To: header, and not mangled by anything here. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

20 years, 5 months

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