test-drb December 2003

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by Innfogra＠aol.com

My bad. What I was remember was the 5218 not the 5216. Do you have a picture? My memory is not what it was, especially for non favorite printers. >From the IBM info I would say this was the Wheelwriter printer that was concurrent with the PS/2 line of computers. It was also related to the Wheelwriter series of typewriters, the last, I think, being the Wheelwriter 7s. If it has a parallel port it is this daisywriter printer not the older one. What ports does it have again? Paxton Astoria, OR

21 years

Disk hardware emulation

by mcwood＠t-online.de

Hi, I think what a lot of people need is something like this here http://www.wilsonlabs.com/wbc512.htm . It's a SCSI replacement for Maxtor MFM Disks like XT-1140 or even XT2190. But they want $995 ... Best Regards, Marc Holz Perhaps they might give a better price to a large number of hobbyists.

21 years

Space Invaders returning to arcades...

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

21 years

pdp8a

by deritod＠yahoo.com.ar

Hi , my name is Dario from Argentina I have a PDP8A and a ASR33 teletype, but not work. I built an interface becase I want load the Orient program without the ASR33, the communication works OK, and I have the orient in my PC , but when I try load to the PDP , it not work, The manual said that if the orient is ok load , the PDP give me a message ?00.00 Orient xx.K but nothing happened. Can you help, me? or if you have some experienc e please tell me thanks ------------ Los mejores usados y las m?s tentadoras ofertas de 0km est?n en Yahoo! Autos. Compr? o vend? tu auto en http://autos.yahoo.com.ar

21 years

Intellectual property issues (was: WHERE DID ALL THE SYSTEMS PROGRAMMERS GO?)

by jack.rubin＠ameritech.net

given the MS FAT discussion, this may not be off topic - http://www.newtechusa.com/PPI/faq.asp

21 years

Space Invaders returning to arcades...

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: Witchy <witchy(a)binarydinosaurs.co.uk> > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org >> [mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Dwight K. Elvey >> Sent: 05 December 2003 21:44 >> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >> Subject: Re: Space Invaders returning to arcades... >> >> One thing to consider. If they were making so much money that it >> was a overwelming gouge, other would compete against them. Arcade >> machines are not cheap to make. Doing 10K units of a 10 year lifetime >> is not a large run. The CPU board is most likely designed in house >> because they can not depend on outside vendors to keep an obsolete >> design. Any uP design is obsolete within 6 months to a year. They >> need a longer product life. Knowing the methods used to create >> these arcade machines, I would say that $3K is a little on the >> high side but not all that much. One wouldn't stay in business doing >> these for anything less then $2.5K. Maybe you know something I don't. > >Hang on, given current technology are you saying that these people are >spending time and money actually DESIGNING new boards for 20 year old games >that can run on mobile phones? >Even paying the original licensors a fee per cab you can get Space Invaders >running on an old 386 for next to nothing. The controllers and buttons are >readily available so you could do it yourself for a very small fee. You miss the point. That board source needs to be around for 10 to 15 years. The only way to do that is to make them your self. Actually, they often use a common board for many different models. They are still custom and there isn't a truly economical to get around this. It is the nature of the business. In the near future, you'll see things changing, even for video. Next year the vga signal you depended on might not be there. It cost quite a bit to change what one is doing, even if it seems obsolete to someone on the outside. Dwight > >Has the point here gone rushing past my rather tired head? > >cheers > >PS I've just knocked an entire glass of red wine over my legs, testbed PC >(fortunately not running), 2 production machines (fronts only), floorboards, >stuff lying round waiting to be sold etc, components, docs and even my >powermac G3, which should be out of harms way. Suffice to say I'm not happy. > >-- >adrian/witchy >www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the online computer museum >www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - ex-monthly gothic shenanigans :o( > >

21 years

Space Invaders returning to arcades...

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Interesting clip. I hadn't seen it before. At least this is the real game. If you look at Hammacher-Schlemmer and the holiday issues of similar catalogs, they are selling multi-game units (like Galaga and Qix, MacMan/Ms. PacMan for example) for $3000. I've seen these hybrid games up close at the Fortunoff store near me and they're smaller than the real arcade games and have crappy decals on the front and sides. Even the coin door on the front is a decal -- not that you'd need a real coin door for use at home. For much less you can build a MAME machine (I have a MAME machine in progress) and have as much or more fun with it. Now, in Namco's defense, parts alone, using eBay and Happ Controls as a proxy, might cost $700 or so. I'd figure that $999-$1199 would be a good retail price. Rich Rich -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Bryan Pope Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 1:25 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Space Invaders returning to arcades... Check this out: http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/fun.games/12/05/space.invaders.reut/index.html 10,000 Space Invaders units to be sold in the US for $2,772 apiece. But because of inflation, the cost per game is now going to be 50 cents! <rant> Are these people on crack?! What development time went into this? What costs are they recouping? Or do they just want to gouge the classic gamers? </rant> Cheers, Bryan Pope

21 years

IBM 5216 printer

by bmachacek＠pcisys.net

I'd like to find out a little more about the IBM 5216 Wheelprinter I just received. What computers did it work with? There are only 2 female input connectors on the back, one is marked "T" and the other one "P". Anyone have information on the type of computers this unit was setup to work with? TIA for your responses. Bill Machacek Colo. Springs, CO

21 years

analog computer patch panels

by tomj＠wps.com

Hmm, I've got a couple of patch panels identical to the TR-48 shown on that URL. I got them from Los Alamos Sales, Ed had some huge, multi-rack analog computer that got broken up and scrapped. It was huge, probably a dozen racks or more. I took home two panels only. I was going to just hang them on the wall, they're nice to look at.

21 years

IBM 5216 printer

by Innfogra＠aol.com

IIRC the IBM DisplayWriter. The cables were thin and came to a non standard D sub 9 pin. There was a cut sheet feeder that might plug into the other port. It has been a long time. I think the System 23 also may have connected to that printer also. There weren't many IBM daisywheel printers. I had a lot of those go through my hands about 15 years ago. Paxton Astoria, OR

21 years

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test-drb December 2003