test-drb December 2003

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by mbg＠TheWorld.com

>> First, the M8190-AB is a PDP-11/73 CPU board and >> usually runs in an ALL Qbus system. Don't forget that > >So can someone fix this in the "FIELD GUIDE TO Q-BUS AND UNIBUS MODULES" >doc? It's got an M8190 listed as an 11/84 CPU. Since I own it, I'll check it out and adjust it if need be... Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | email: mbg at world.std.com | | Member of Technical Staff | megan at savaje.com | | SavaJe Technologies, Inc. | (s/ at /@/) | | 100 Apollo Drive | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Chelmsford, MA 01824 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (978) 256 6521 (DEC '77-'98) | required." - mbg KB1FCA | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

20 years, 7 months

kaypro 10 for sell!!!

by stevengunter＠earthlink.net

i just came into this thing and was looking it up on the web. Are you still looking for one? Steve G.

20 years, 7 months

HP2000 and old archive stuff NOT on 9-track (apple2 transfer??)??

by Zubla2001＠aol.com

> I have some old programs from my HP2000 days that I downloaded to > APPLE-2 diskette (DOS 3.3 and PRODOS). > > Any ideas on the easiest way to get that source uploaded to a network > connected system which should then be able to easily > paste them into a terminal session and get the code active again? > > I have an APPLE //c, a II+ and a IIE. I appreciate any ideas on this one. Bob, I used an Apple serial card, a null modem cable, and a simple BASIC program to use the serial port. There have been some Apple emulators. Does anyone know if any of them can read Apple 5.25" floppies? I know that in the evolution of 5.25" drives and densities, there was the issue of wide heads, wide write tracks, and later heads and tracks were narrower. Was it that modern heads could read earlier tracks? Greg

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Looking for Compaq LTE 386

by vcf＠siconic.com

Has anyone got a Compaq LTE 386 that they'd be willing to part with? If so, please contact me. Thanks! -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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Building a PDP-11 for the first time

by chrisc＠addpower.com

The M8190 was salvaged from a PDP-11/23 backplane where it had been running, so I assumed that it would work in a QBUS setup. Is there an easy way to tell whether the card is really Unibus or QBUS? > > M8190-AB (11/84 cpu) > > I separated the '84 CPU because it's oops Unibus and not > Qbus. Everything else you have listed is Qbus. The busses > don't mix. Actually a PDP-11/84 uses a Q-Bus CPU in an adapter of some sort, same with the memory. My concerns with what I see listed above are if the memory will work with the CPU (did it come out of the same system?), I don't have time to check the part number. The other concern is, since you're wanting to run 2.11BSD, is the disk controller supported?

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Disk hardware emulation, was Re: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Eric Smith" <eric(a)brouhaha.com> > >I wrote: >>> Without decoding the data, it is proposed to sample the data at 50 Mbps >>> or more. > >Andy wrote: >> Why so fast? You only need sample at 2x the bandwidth. > >2x is the theoretical minimum; sampling at 2x isn't always adequate >in practice due to various real-world limitations. > >The minimum write data pulse width spec for the WD1000 controller >is 60 ns. If we were sampling and reconstructing a sine wave with >a 120 ns period, 16.7 MHz sampling would be adequate. But that Hi Even for a sine wave, the brick wall filter would be difficult to create. You need a little more room. >wouldn't yield good results for square waves, and there wouldn't be >any margins. In practice, I suspect that 33.3 MHz sampling would be >barely adequate provided that no other problems arise. Operating at >50 MHz seems advisable to have reasonable margins. The thing to consider is that we are not sampling a "square" wave. It is a variable pulse width digital signal. The only kind of processors I know of that could handle this from a port is some of the latest DSP chips. Using a PC, even one like our ( AMD ) latest Opteron wouldn't do well since it is so highly pipelined and unpredictable in execution speed at this short a time interval. There are a number of DSP evaluation boards out there that places like ADI and TI sell that could be made to handle this task. Of course, a simple pulse width counter on the front end could simplify the sampling process. > >

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Disk hardware emulation, was Re: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?

by aek＠spies.com

> Why so fast? You only need sample at 2x the bandwidth. What you're trying to do is find the edge position in the presence of jitter though it's more of an issue with floppies that have belt-driven spindle motors. It also helps detect runt pulses in sector splices.

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Free Stuff

by tponsford＠theriver.com

Hi All, Got a whole pallet load of old documentation for $2 at the local University Auction. Some Stuff I'm keeping but if anybody is interested in some of the other stuff, its your's for the cost of shipping, probably USPS media mail, or UPS at your choice. Free to good home: Evans and Sutherland PS 390 Documentation Set (circa 1987) 4 Full size Binders including Hardware and Software documentation. OSF/1 manuals all topics about 40 or 50 manuals all together. I'll keep a few, but the rest go. Digital Unix manuals, about a dozen, all topics. most are the usual software documentation. Digital VMS 6.2 manuals almost a complete set. These are not the big "grey wall" of dec binders but the newer paperback manuals. All of the manuals are in Great condition. It looks as some have never been used. I will have a list of the OSF/1, DEC Unix and VMS manuals in the next few days,(as I go through them) but if your looking for a special one, contact me off-list. Remember as I'm doing this for free (ie cost of shipping) it might be a while before I get them sent. Also, the last time I did this, I got burnt by some on this list who never sent me the shipping costs, so this time shipping costs up front. Thanks Tom Ponsford

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[Fwd: Re: Free Stuff-LIST]

by tponsford＠theriver.com

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Free Stuff-LIST Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:38:04 -0700 From: Tom Ponsford <tponsford(a)theriver.com> To: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only <cctech(a)classiccmp.org> References: <3FD8A3AB.4030203(a)theriver.com> Hi all Forgot to mention my Zip is 85630 (SE Arizona) The Evans and Sutherland manuals have been spoken for: Remember first come first served with priority to those who take the most stuff!! Ok, here is a partial list of the DEC stuff: The VMS stuff is too much for me to list today, besides most of it I put in my storage. Its about 4-5 of those plastic 25 gallon storage boxes. But here is the OSF and DEC Unix stuff: ########################################################### DEC OSF/1 8/94 Title Dec # Copies DecWindows Users Guide AA-Q917A-TE 2 Technical OverView AA-Q0R18-TE 1 Dec Verifier and Execiser Tool Users Guide AA-PttMB-TE 2 Calling Standard for AXP Systems AA-PYBAB-TE 2 DecWindows Extensionto Motif AA-QBYSA-TE 1 X Window System Environment AA-Q7RNA-TE 2 Writing Device Drivers Advanced Topics AA-Q7RPA-TE 1 Digital Portable Mathematics Library AA-PUBXB-TK 2 DEveloping Application for the Display Postcript System AA-Q15WA-TE 1 DECWindows Motif Guide to Appplication Programm. AA-QBYTA-TE 2 Assembly Language Programming Guide AA-PS31C-TE 2 Programming with ONC RPC AA-QOR5A-TE 2 Programming Support Tools AA-PS3@C-TE 3 Writing Software for the International Market AA-QoFMB-TE 2 Ultrix to DEC OSF/1 Migration Guide AA-PS3EC-TE 1 DecWindows Extension to Motif AA-QBYSA-TE 1 Programmers Guide AA-PS30C-TE 2 Guide to DECThreads AA-Q2DPB-TK 2 Network Programmer Guide AA-PS2WC-TE 2 Guide to Realtime programming AA-PS33C-TE 2 Network Administration and Problem Solving AA-PS2SB-TE 2 Network Configuration AA-PS2GC-TE 1 Command Shell and USers Guide AA-PS2HC-TE 2 Dec OSF/1 Technical Overview AA-QoR1B-TE 1 Documentation Overview Glossary and master Index AA-PS2JC-TE 3 Guide to Prestoserve AA-PqToC-TE 2 Software License Mgmt. AA-POTOC-TE 2 Kernel DEbugging AA-PS2TD-TE 1 DecWindows Companion to the OSF/Motif Style Guide AA-QBYUA-TE 2 Asynchronous Transfer Mode AA-QDP5B-TE 2 #################################################### Digital Unix july 1985 Installation Guide AA-PS2DF-TE 2 Release Notes AA-PS2BF-TE 3 Logical Storage manager AA-Q3NCD-TE 2 DECladebug Debugging manual: Command-Line Interface AA-PZ7ED-TE 2 Sharing Software on a local Area Network AA-P53LD-TE 1 Security AA-Q0R2C-TE 1 System Tuning and Performance Management AA-q0R3D-TE 1 Writing VMEBus Device Drivers AA-Q0R7D-TE 2 Writing PCI Bus Device Drivers AA-Q7RQB-TE ######################################### In Addition I'll have some old sun stuff, some old SGI manuals and various old computer manuals. As sson as I can get around to going through this stuff. Tom Tom Ponsford wrote: > Hi All, > > Got a whole pallet load of old documentation for $2 at the local > University Auction. > Some Stuff I'm keeping but if anybody is interested in some of the other > stuff, its your's for the cost of shipping, probably USPS media mail, or > UPS at your choice. > > Free to good home: > > Evans and Sutherland PS 390 Documentation Set (circa 1987) > 4 Full size Binders including Hardware and Software documentation. > > OSF/1 manuals all topics about 40 or 50 manuals all together. I'll keep > a few, but the rest go. > > Digital Unix manuals, about a dozen, all topics. most are the usual > software documentation. > > Digital VMS 6.2 manuals almost a complete set. These are not the big > "grey wall" of dec binders but the newer paperback manuals. > > All of the manuals are in Great condition. It looks as some have never > been used. > > I will have a list of the OSF/1, DEC Unix and VMS manuals in the next > few days,(as I go through them) but if your looking for a special one, > contact me off-list. > > Remember as I'm doing this for free (ie cost of shipping) it might be a > while before I get them sent. > > Also, the last time I did this, I got burnt by some on this list who > never sent me the shipping costs, so this time shipping costs up front. > > Thanks > > Tom Ponsford > >

20 years, 7 months

SGI 4D/25 Personal Iris keyboard and mouse

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

Hi all, Any ides if the keyboard and mouse needed for an SGI 4D/25 was used on any of SGI's other models? A machine just cropped up for free but it's got no mouse or keyboard with it. The keyboard socket on the machine is a 9-pin D-type female (umm a B-type in correct terminology I think) - I'm assuming the mouse plugs into a port on the keyboard, rather than tying up one of the serial ports on the machine? Oh, the root password isn't known either... but I'm assuming there will be ways around it on a machine this old. cheers Jules

20 years, 7 months

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test-drb December 2003