> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Erlacher [mailto:edick@idcomm.com]
> Where the files go is a function of the applicaton, and less
> of the OS.
Actually, MacOS has -- and I thought windows had too -- allowed
for the OS to make some overrides. Any application that uses
the standard file dialog may ask for the location to be set
somewhere, but the system can override that.
It's my impression that this is done on windows 2000, and on mac
OS 8, at least.
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
Hi all,
I just got back a few hours ago from grabbing a few 'toys' to play with:
- Altos 580-B02, dual 5-1/4" drives, software
- Altos 8000-15A, dual 8" floppies
- "User manual" for the Altos Series 5, Xerox'd
- Televideo TV-925 w/user manual and maintenance manual
- 3xOsborne-1's, at least two need some repair.
- Commodore VIC20 with "all the fixin's"
I've managed to get an Osborne 1 to power up, it looks to have a stuck bit
on the video memory (bad DRAM perhaps). I don't have software. Does
anyone have software for this?
The Altos 580 and 8000 don't 'work out of the box.' The 8000 supposedly
needs a new powersupply. The 580 has an unknown problem - the power
supply seems to be putting out power OK, and swapping the floppy drive DS
jumpers around didn't help. Right now, it lights the 'in use' light on
Drive 0, spins the disk motor as soon as power is applied, and then the
motor turns off and the disk spins down almost immediately. I don't get
any output from the serial port marked 'JA' (I've tried both straight
through and null-modem cables). Pressing the 'reset' button (is that what
it is?) on the front doesn't seem to do anything.
Does anyone have any info that'd help me repair the 580? I've got a good
amount of electronics knowledge/experience, and have a scope laying around
I know how to use...
Also, I need to get some software for the ACS 8000. I've got a set of IBM
8" floppy disks, but no software for the machine.
Thanks for the help.
-- Pat
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Erlacher [mailto:edick@idcomm.com]
> If you configure *nix well, it's still cyptic and impenetrable to the
> uninitiated.
Well, if you want it to act like windows, configure it to act like
windows. In fact, go one step better: give the user a menu of N
choices, where N is the number of tasks you require of them. That
removes all guess-work.
Nothing would prevent you from doing that.
I guess my point here is that user interface is not such a problem
when choosing different platforms. You can always get (or write) an
add-on, and probably much more easily than you can get or write an
add-on which will do, for instance, file restriction by ACL.
Of course, I have my UI preferences, and you have yours, but when it
comes down to it, they're similar enough already that you can make
one act "close enough" to the other to avoid confusion most of the
time.
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
> Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 09:04:23 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Megan <mbg(a)TheWorld.com>
> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: free DEC M7555 card
>
>
> >This is a RQDX3 ESDI hard disk controller.
>
> RQDXn is not ESDI at all.. it is MSCP.
>
> Megan Gentry
> Former RT-11 Developer
Well, it is MSCP on the software side.
But it is ST506 on the hardware side.
And only a small selected set of ST506 drives at that.
carl
--
carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego
clowenstein(a)ucsd.edu
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Erlacher [mailto:edick@idcomm.com]
> OTOH, with user-friendly systems, you just install the driver
> and reboot.
Any decently modern system can be treated in that fashion, more
or less.
I would be surprised to find one that had been modified since
1982 that would not do that.
> you don't have to reboot. When I add another drive, for
> example. It's
> possible to do that without much more than a 'mount'
> directive under *nix as
> well, isn't it?
Yep, the difference there being that if you're adding a drive
to an interface that's already configured, there's no driver
problem at all.
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
>I fear that your `anacronym' is an anacronism and what you really meant
>was acronym - a synthesized word made from the first characters of the
>words of a (group or organizational) name.
>
Yup, that is what I wanted.
>> have spent so little time dealing with the system, that they clearly
>> can't base their statements on anything educated. It doesn't matter if it
>> is the Mac, or if it is something else.
>
>Hmmmm!
Case in point... I have shown my lack of education in language time and
time again, my grammar, and spelling, are horrible. I have little grasp
of the fundimentals of ANY language, and people would be ill-advised to
listen to much of an argument I might present regarding language use. I
failed my way thru all english classes from grade school thru college. (I
am fluent however in mumble-ese)
So it would be expected that I would make such a mistake above. But then,
I haven't tried to argue language concepts since I put my foot in my
mouth regarding sentense structure some time back. (I don't consider
correcting MAC to Mac to be a language argument, rather a usuage
arguement for lack of a better word, along the lines of pointing out that
PS/2 is an IBM computer, and PS2 is a Sony game system... you don't need
to know language for that, you just need to know how the terms are used
by their respective groups)
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
>The fact (well, at least my opinion) is that Apple makes it easy to
>remain completely ignorant of most important things about their
>computer while still "using" them.
I won't disagree with you.
But Richard spouts out as an expert in all things computer... if he has
half the brains, and computer smarts he trys to claim... then he should
have known far more about the Mac then he appears to if he has "5+ years
of daily use".
I have friends with the IQ of a potato, who have less than 5+ years of
non daily use of a Mac, and know far more than Richard appears to know.
I just find it hard to swallow... taken in context with everything else
Richard says.
I just went over as many of Richards emails as I still have on this
machine, and I found that maybe it isn't so much that Richard is lying,
so much as he is twisting the truth. Like for instance, he said he bought
the AppleVision monitor for $3.95 when he got it ("It's only a small risk
at $3.95."), but then just now said he paid $2.95 ("including the
Applevision monitor for $2.95").
Sure, he isn't lying, he just forgot the price by a $1 since last week...
acceptable, understandable, not a problem.
Except that he does that thru almost EVERYTHING he writes (he paid ~$10
for two performa's including tax... but then later the reduced by a buck
monitor was lumped into that same approx $10 price, significantly
reducing the price he is implying he paid... again, it is a rounding
issue, it isn't a lie... it is just implying something that is not quite
true.)
He also tries to spout off as an expert in any topic he is discussing,
but when you go back and look at the facts, he admits that he has no idea
what he is talking about (he claims Mac's have a 250% price premium...
but he hasn't looked at pricing in over 15 years... except he checked
ebay and it says prices are 2.5:1). So what he REALLY said is... he has
NO idea what current prices are, but he is going to pretend he knows, and
he is going to hold Apple responsible for the prices that he will assume
to be true, and he will base as his only source of proof, the used prices
he finds on eBay, and he will ignore the historically higher resale value
of the Mac over the generic PC.
So I appologize, Richard isn't lying, he is simply not telling the whole
truth, and is implying far more than he should, and attempts to make
people believe he is an expert on topics by speaking of things as if they
are fact, when in reality he has no real knowledge of the facts, but just
assumes anything he thinks must be correct, and treats it as such.
>like a mouse that has only
>one button... to avoid confusion
I really wish Apple would cut the crap with that. They freaking introduce
contextual menus with OS 8, but STILL refuse to release a two button
mouse. But then, maybe they are not bundling a multi-button mouse in
order to help 3rd party companies sell them... who knows.
>> Not to mention, you stated back when it all started that you haven't
>> seriously touched a computer by Apple in 15 years except to pull the
>> power supplies from them.
>
>Ok, that's somewhat of an odd statement in context.
>
>Could it be that he wasn't doing "serious" work on the systems at the
>time?
see... that is just what I am talking about. He will claim he hasn't
seriously touched them in years, implying that he never uses them, and
knows little about them. Then later, when it suits his statements, he
will claim that he has 5+ years of daily useage of them. It may be that
neither is false. Maybe 10 years ago, he stopped using the Mac after
having done 5+ years working with them. That would let him have 5 years
of useage under his belt AND not have touched them in years. Or maybe,
like you say, he means serious in the strictest of senses, and he hasn't
used the Mac for "hard core" work in years, but uses them for games every
day.
With the way he twists everything to fit what he wants at a given moment,
you just can't tell.
I do know one thing... if I ever need a someone to argue a case for me...
I think I want Richard on my side... he has the best doublespeak I have
ever seen (read?).
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
> From: Richard Erlacher
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris" <mythtech(a)mac.com>
>
>
> > I can't... I just can't any more. I have been trying to be nice to
> > Richard despite all the clear flame bait he has been throwing out here.
> >
> > But with his comment above, I just can't any more.
> > ...
>
> >
> > I'm sorry... I just can't do it any more.
> >
> Then don't ... When you get old enough that you're out in the working
> world,
> where your performance is measured on whether or not you meet schedule and
> budget, and not on how cute your comments are, you'll understand the
> realities
> of why people use what they do. If you're just idly fiddling with
> something
> interesting at home, nobody cares how long it takes you.
>
>
Chris ---
This is cute, and kinda funny, since Rich has seemed to have
forgotten all the times you talk about being in the fire dep't, well, and
the fact that you _are_ in the working world...
I thought one of the rules of engagement was to 'know your enemy'?
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From: Loboyko Steve <sloboyko(a)yahoo.com>
>An additional ugliness in the spec is that apparently
>the -5 has to be the first and last voltage the chip
>sees. I hope that this is not TOO critical...sometimes
>I forget how "good" we have it now.
It is critical. I've destroyed 2708s in a system that did +12
first by error. FYI: it doesnt matter howmuch before the
two positive supplies on that -5V is first on and last off.
4104s and 4116s (drams) also had a similar requirement
as did many of the other three voltage parts.
Allison
> From: John Allain
>
> From: Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 1:37 PM
>
> <delete>
>
- ***chuckle, chuckel*** While that is a good idea, I am getting some
good giggles and grins from reading this whole exchange, especially since
I've met Chris in person a couple times...
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