On May 15, 16:29, Tothwolf wrote:
> On Wed, 15 May 2002, Pete Turnbull wrote:
> > If I'm *really* lazy, I tie them up in a pillowcase and put them in
> > the (clothes) washing machine, and follow up with the tumble drier.
>
> That would likely be a bad idea, since the keys would scratch against
each
> other. Worst case, all of the lettering would be removed, and best case
> would be a few scratches and dings.
They don't scratch. And no reasonable keyboard has the lettering put on in
such a way that it would rub off in a washing machine. If that were the
case, the legending would rub off in normal use. Nearly all decent keys
are two-part moulded. If that were the case, the legending would rub off
in normal use. The pillowcase/washing machine is a tried and tested
method, and I've heard of lots of people who've used it (I didn't invent
it, though I can't remember who first told me about it).
> > No.1 tip: make a note of the layout before you take the keycaps off.
> > It all looks very logical until you actually try to put *every one* of
> > the symbol keys back in the right place.
>
> Or take a digital photo of the keyboard, or make sure you have an exact
> duplicate keyboard. Grid/graph paper can be very helpful when writing
down
> a layout too.
Better still, yes.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
I have a copy of the SunDisk Flash RAM card driver for the 3000 (and for the
HP95LX), as well as SunDisk card FDISK and FORMAT programs. If anyone wants
them, email me off-list at robert_feldman(at)jdedwards(dot)com.
-----Original Message-----
From: Lawrence Walker [mailto:lgwalker@mts.net]
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 9:11 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: [CCTALK] Good Trip / good Score
<snip>
A SHARP PC 3000. After cleaning out the battery compartment and using
new batteries it worked. DOS 3.1 w/a pcmcia card whose Li. battery is
surely dead as is the notepad's.
And many non-computer items.
The Sharp 3k is a neat little 8088 handheld about the size of an Atari
Portfolio. Sharp brought it out after high sales of it's Poqet but retreated
when some of the heavier-duty co's. attacked that market
Based on the numerous site info it's a great machine related somehow to the
HP95. At least it can use the HP PCMCIA's if I understood correctly.( IIUC)
Anyone here a fan of this hand-held ?
> no, messages from cctech ARE making it to cctalk, I just saw a bunch go
> through. They are the ones with dual list subjects... ie. [CCTALK] [CCTECH]
>
> Jay West
Can the [CCTALK] & [CCTECH] be shortened to something that does't take up
most of the the viewable subject line? I read most CLASSICCMP mail via
'elm' and I'm not seeing enough of the subject to get any idea what the
message is about. Also, do we really need to see both on dual list
messages?
Zane
>We have had lots of fun pitching stuff into
>a 30 yard dumpster when we had one delivered.
But then you can't video tape its impact and edit it into slow motion
among other things.
>We did this on a Sunday morning, I recommend checking when your local
>authorities are not available. It makes a lot of noise and can attract
>attention.
We have a private parking lot... and my sister is a cop on the local
police department, and the PBA holds their meetings in our building. So
even if the cops show up, they are likely to just hang out watch, and
cheer us on.
>It was
>before we realized the potential toxic hazard we were unleashing.
Humm.. hadn't thought about the health hazard. :-(
>A heavy aluminum or steel chassis will make marks in both concrete or
>asphalt.
That's what I'm worried about. I guess I could remove the case to the
monitors and verify that they are just plastic. But I just have this fear
that I will chip the asphalt, and within a season there will be a nice
pothole in the middle of the drive.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
In a message dated 5/16/02 1:19:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
Gary.Messick(a)itt.com writes:
>
> ^^^^^^^^^ AAIIIIIEEE!!!! (How could you?)
>
It was not my choice, but my partner's. It was 1989, before I discovered the
list. We couldn't find anyone to sell them to. They are very expensive to
store for the next 10 or 20 years until they are valuable again. At that time
I had no idea they would ever be valuable again. My partner was a scrapper
and we had to move.
Paxton
Astoria, OR
In a message dated 5/16/02 12:22:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
mythtech(a)mac.com writes:
> (I am still a little leary to toss a monitor off the top of my office
> building... I'm afraid I'll damage the asphalt... the landlord would kick
> my ass if I did that. But it is only 2 stories so I am thinking about
> it... I don't think a 14" monitor could build up enough energy to damage
> the parking lot on a 30 foot drop... I just haven't gotten the guts up to
> try it and find out)
>
The problem with throwing stuff off rooftops is containing the debris, which,
with a monitor, is considerable. We have had lots of fun pitching stuff into
a 30 yard dumpster when we had one delivered. The first time we were in a
seven story warehouse with stuff on the 7th and 4th floors.
A stereo system dropped from the seventh floor can literally jump out of the
dumpster upon impact. This was the first we tried. Containment works better
when there is a little debris in the bottom. The first few items jumped right
out of the dumpster, bouncing off the metal bottom. Of course they shatter
when hitting the bottom making a mess to clean up when they jumped into the
street.
We did this on a Sunday morning, I recommend checking when your local
authorities are not available. It makes a lot of noise and can attract
attention. In NW Portland Oregon no one came by.
After cleaning the street up of the first items we moved to the 4th floor
where we had 60 Wang Terminal tubes to dispose of. These did not jump out of
the dumpster. The fall from the 4th floor was not as great. They made a great
pop when they hit the dumpster. It was a noisy morning.
The Wang 2200 tubes were over 10 years old so it fits the criteria of the
list, not to mention this was also in 1989, more than 10 years ago. It was
before we realized the potential toxic hazard we were unleashing.
Another time we had to despool several pallets of spooled wire. We took them
up to the roof and dropped the spools into the neighboring parking lot. If
you dropped them just right the spool would come apart and the coil of wire
would rise up about 6 or 8 feet off the ground. Did not damage the parking
lot. Lots of fun for work.
A heavy aluminum or steel chassis will make marks in both concrete or
asphalt. Plastic shatters making a big mess. We preferred to restrain
ourselves until we had a dumpster to toss things into. Properly contained it
can be a lot of fun.
Paxton
Astoria, OR
> From: Davison, Lee <Lee.Davison(a)merlincommunications.com>
> You can't scratch glass with metal. What you can do is leave
> a thin trace of metal on the glass.
Not to doubt your word, but in my experience metal can scratch glass. The
glass counter-tops in my shop are scratched (not marked) from customers
putting circuit boards on them.
Glen
0/0
> > EPROMs don't have UV-opaque glass windows, they have
> > UV-transparent quartz windows. So they can be erased,
> > but not by casual exposure.
>
> Yes, but every flatbed scanner I've ever seen has a flat
> piece of glass on top (which is optically between the lamp
> and the object-being-scanned). I can't believe they used
> any special glass that was even moderately transparent to
> UV -- it would be expensive and pointless.
But regardless, scanning would be causal exposure, and such
exposure (even if that glass were UV transparent) would be
unlikely to be able to hurt the EPROM.
But the only boards with EPROMs I've ever seen that *didn't*
have labels covering the windows were ones I did myself or
ones where the label glue had dried up and the label fell
off.
FWIW, I usually use silver write-protect tabs or the black
vinyl ones for this purpose; I'd only use white paper on
stuff that shipped so I could write a version number on them.
Dunno if the tabs are available anymore, but I think I still
have a supply...
-dq
