test-drb May 2002

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DEC machines that can't format a disk (Was: Good Trip/Score Dec

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk] > Not when there are _good_ techncial reasons for it (like the > fact that > the RL01 can't format a blank pack becuase to make a positioner that > could step accurately enough without reading servo bursts from the > platter would be rediculously expensive). Well, that's different. :) > But when it's done for marketing reasons (so you have to buy the > manufacturer's expensive pre-formatted floppies, as was the > case with the > RX01, etc) then yes, of course it annoys me. ...but this is what I was talking about. Didn't they have "diagnostic" programs available in some cases (to field service) that would cause some of these systems to format their own disks, anyway? I'm certain there was something to get a Qbus VAX to format hard disks -- I mean, aside from a controller that would do it in firmware -- but that's probably a little different. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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FA: HP 9845B Computer/Calculator TMG232 Item # 2026012591

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

FYI HP 9845B, located in Australia. <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2026012591>

23 years, 1 month

[CCTALK] Re: List bifurcation

by dougq＠iglou.com

On Thursday 16 May 2002 17:14, you wrote: > > Is it just me, or has this list just become rediculously complicated? I > > still don't know where I should be posting anything. And I don't really > > care any more. If people miss out on my messages, well that's their > > problem I'm afraid. Rest assured, Tony, you're coming through loud and clear... > Sacrifice to the God of political correctness we must. Wah, Wah, Waaaaaaaah!! Mommie, mean man won't let me scream! Jeezus, do ya'll want some cheese with that whine? ============================================================ Ok, Since we're OT here anyway, I have a stack of Calcomp Digitab III digitizer tablets, 16-button wireless pucks. Several are tested and packaged for sale, and I've been getting $75 to $150 apiece for them on E-Bay. I'd be interested in some possible trades for more vintage stuff. Please contact me off-list. I also have a limtited number of Kurta tablets for the Mac, with wired pucks, but they'll be out of reach until I can get the storage unit rent caught up. Ditto the off-list expression of interest... -dq

23 years, 1 month

computer sales -- now only on e-bay??

by dougq＠iglou.com

> On Tue, 21 May 2002, Douglas H. Quebbeman wrote: > > > > Doc wrote: > > > > > > > I've also noticed tacit cooperation concerning eBay auctions. If I > > > >recognise a bid as made by a list member, I don't bid against them, and > > > >that seems to be the norm. > > > > > > Or, you soon realize that you shouldn't bother bidding > > > against AEK. <grin> > > So who _is_ AEK? Why, non other than "Uncle" Al Kossow... the visionary responsible for the Bitsavers Project, which is archiving as much old computer software and documentation as is humanly possible... -dq

23 years, 1 month

[CCTALK] Rants

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com> > If someone's views offend you, you can filter them off into a mailbox of their > own, and either read them or not, depending on your mood. That's your right > and privilege, and, perhaps, duty, since it certainly shouldn't be Jay's job > to accomodate everyone's individual preferences, quirks, and foibles. Granted. My error. Glen 0/0

23 years, 1 month

AppleTalk ISA card

by spectre＠stockholm.ptloma.edu

Anyone out there considering getting rid of an LocalTalk ISA card? I'd prefer the Apple-manufactured version if possible. Let me know off-list if you might be persuaded to part with it. -- ----------------------------- personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu -- How are you gentlemen? All your base are belong to us! ---------------------

23 years, 1 month

[CCTALK] RE: scanners & circuit boards..

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Davison, Lee" <Lee.Davison(a)merlincommunications.com> > > > >> You can't scratch glass with metal. What you can do > >> is leave a thin trace of metal on the glass. Jewelers > >> rouge will easily remove this is nothing else will. > > This is not true. Try running your windshield wipers > without the rubber. > >All generalisations have exeptions, however it's usually the road >grit and oxides on the end of the blades that do the scratching. True but where are you going to find the really clean metal to rub on the glass? Most surfaces of metals have oxides and other material on them. I was making the point that under real world conditions, one can scratch glass with metal objects. One should not assume it is safe to rub metals on glass. If the pressure is high enough, most hardened metals can scribe glass, even though the glass is harder. This is more related to brittleness. > > And lastly, the quartz windows of the EPROMs > are harder than glass. > >As can be ceramic chip packages and the PCB itself (glass >fiber laminate). > >> I think he was talking about the glass on the scanner. >> >I was. I meant this to be in relation to the UV passing. > >Lee. > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >---- >This email is intended only for the above named addressee(s). The >information contained in this email may contain information which is >confidential. The views expressed in this email are personal to the sender >and do not in any way reflect the views of the company. > > If you have received this email and you are not a named addressee please >delete it from your system and contact Merlin Communications International >IT Department on +44 20 7344 5888. > >________________________________________________________________________ >This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The >service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive >anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: >http://www.star.net.uk >________________________________________________________________________ >

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[CCTALK] RE: scanners & circuit boards..

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

>> You can't scratch glass with metal. What you can do >> is leave a thin trace of metal on the glass. Jewelers >> rouge will easily remove this is nothing else will. This is not true. Try running your windshield wipers without the rubber. All generalisations have exeptions, however it's usually the road grit and oxides on the end of the blades that do the scratching. And lastly, the quartz windows of the EPROMs are harder than glass. As can be ceramic chip packages and the PCB itself (glass fiber laminate). > I think he was talking about the glass on the scanner. > I was. Lee. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- This email is intended only for the above named addressee(s). The information contained in this email may contain information which is confidential. The views expressed in this email are personal to the sender and do not in any way reflect the views of the company. If you have received this email and you are not a named addressee please delete it from your system and contact Merlin Communications International IT Department on +44 20 7344 5888. ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

23 years, 1 month

Nice OpenVMS starter system on eBay

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

Normally I wouldn't do post here about an auction I spotted on eBay, however, this would make a really killer starter system for someone wanting to try out OpenVMS. I've no idea who the seller is. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2025206674 It's an AlphaStation 200 4/233 with 256MB RAM, a 2GB & 9GB HD, and 24-Bit graphics card, as well as the OpenVMS 7.1-2 distro, and the December 2000 layered products and doc library CD's. BTW, it's been my experience that one of these systems with 256MB RAM rocks (I've got one setup almost like this one). Zane

23 years, 1 month

E&S PS-390

by pat＠purdueriots.com

Well, I looked at them, and the card cages are empty :(, so I grabbed one for an endtable and a couple boxes of 'accessories' for them, including a keyboard, twiddle box, digitizer tablets, cables, and manuals. Let me know if anyone wants some of these things, I'm asking $10/ea or less if you want >1 thing (all the cables together will probably count as 'one thing'. Even if I haven't listed it, ask me and I'll see if it was included in the three boxes of crap. There's even some VAX software I got with them on 9-track open-reel tape.. -- Pat West Lafayette, IN

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