Rumor has it that David Woyciesjes may have mentioned these words:
>Well, my 3000/400 uses, I believe, 100-pin memory SIMMs. Looks like
>regular PC EDO stuff from a distance. But they're really abut 5 or 6 inches
>long. There are 4 daughterboards, in the /400, each of which holds 4 SIMMs,
>totaling 16 100-pins SIMMs in there...
Yeouch! That sounds 1)wicked, ;-) and 2)expensive... :-(
And I thought finding compatible memory for my 3000/300 would be bad!
Anyone have a list of the compatible memory vendors for that beastie?
Thankz,
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
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Recycling is good, right??? Ok, so I'll recycle an old .sig.
If at first you don't succeed, nuclear warhead
disarmament should *not* be your first career choice.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Douglas H. Quebbeman [mailto:dougq@iglou.com]
> Around here (Louisville, KY) those places are in a part of town that,
> well, you are likely to be stopped and searched on the assumption
> you are on your way to a crack house. Other parts of town you'll
> simply be shot at.
As long as there's no body cavity search involved, they'll just be
confused about your objective, and possibly your cargo of electronic
components ;)
"So you say you're looking for 'old computer parts'..." <aside> "I think
he may be speaking in code."
After you finally convince them you're serious, they might offer you
their old 386.
> > And you'll have much more fun and much better stories to
> tell in the end.
> If you survive... Y'all come out here for a visit sometime, Sellam...
> I'll protect you as best I can, brother!
You know, Louisville didn't seem all that bad to me when I was there.
Chris
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> From: Roger Merchberger
>
> Rumor has it that David Woyciesjes may have mentioned these words:
>
> [snip]
>
> >- Sorry Roger, it's more of a "Please let me have it! Don't bid on
> >it!" kind of begging... :)
>
> Don't have the cash currently for it anyway... so that wasn't a problem. I
> was just pickin' on ya! ;-)
>
Well, yeah, what else would you be doing? like I would really be
begging. How un-geek-like. :-P
> > Well, wait, IIRC, the 3000/300 uses different kind of memory sticks
> >anyway, doesn't it?
>
> I dunno - I thought most of the lower-end 3000's all used "normal" memory
> -
> as in 72-pin FPM parity memory; but I could be wrong, I've only owned a
> 3000/300. Even that's kinda hard to find without paying an arm & another
> necessary appendage...
>
> Now methinks I'll have to look up the auction, just to see if there's pix
> of that memory...
>
Well, my 3000/400 uses, I believe, 100-pin memory SIMMs. Looks like
regular PC EDO stuff from a distance. But they're really abut 5 or 6 inches
long. There are 4 daughterboards, in the /400, each of which holds 4 SIMMs,
totaling 16 100-pins SIMMs in there...
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Rumor has it that David Woyciesjes may have mentioned these words:
[snip]
>- Sorry Roger, it's more of a "Please let me have it! Don't bid on
>it!" kind of begging... :)
Don't have the cash currently for it anyway... so that wasn't a problem. I
was just pickin' on ya! ;-)
> Well, wait, IIRC, the 3000/300 uses different kind of memory sticks
>anyway, doesn't it?
I dunno - I thought most of the lower-end 3000's all used "normal" memory -
as in 72-pin FPM parity memory; but I could be wrong, I've only owned a
3000/300. Even that's kinda hard to find without paying an arm & another
necessary appendage...
Now methinks I'll have to look up the auction, just to see if there's pix
of that memory...
Laterz,
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
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Recycling is good, right??? Ok, so I'll recycle an old .sig.
If at first you don't succeed, nuclear warhead
disarmament should *not* be your first career choice.
This guy thinks this set will put the VAXStation3100m38 up to 32 MB
of RAM...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2025133368
...there is also a note about offering the rest of the VAX, or it gets
scrapped.
And good news is he's got RAM for auction, for my DEC 3000/400! Woo-hoo!
He also has an SGI Indy slab...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2025132809
DISCLAIMER: I don't know the guy, just found it while looking for DEC3000
RAM...
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Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash
> Tarsi,
>
> I do have a working 11/34A, so first, we need to make sure we have the
> same pair of processor boards (one board is "control", the other "data
> path"). I am not currently at home, but IIRC, the older 11/34 has boards
> labelled something like M725x, while the later 34A has M825x boards,
> with x being two consecutive digits for both boards in a pair.
Andreas...
Tarsi recently corrected himself, and stated that what he has is
a PDP-11/23+, not a PDP-11/34...
Regards,
-doug q
> Doc wrote:
>
> > I've also noticed tacit cooperation concerning eBay auctions. If I
> >recognise a bid as made by a list member, I don't bid against them, and
> >that seems to be the norm.
>
> Or, you soon realize that you shouldn't bother bidding
> against AEK. <grin>
There's another guy who bids on virtually everything I want...
I "know" him, in that I've personally dealt with him from
time to time... I don't think he's a subscriber here, but
at any rate, I usually let him have the items, and just
shrug it off (like a large removable disk drive subsystem
that I honestly would have had trouble with shipping).
But I always get a big, big wide grin when AEK bids against
the guy, and generally wins...
BTW, the guy in question is a decent guy, didn't want to
make it seem otherwise, it's just the his collection has
no public face of any kind, and so it's like this stuff
is just being sucked into a black hole...
-dq
Dick wrote:
> > > --- "Douglas H. Quebbeman" <dougq(a)iglou.com> wrote:
> > > > > Doc wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I've also noticed tacit cooperation concerning eBay auctions. If I
> > > > > >recognise a bid as made by a list member, I don't bid against them, and
> > > > > >that seems to be the norm.
> > > > >
> > > > > Or, you soon realize that you shouldn't bother bidding
> > > > > against AEK. <grin>
> > > >
> > > > There's another guy who bids on virtually everything I want...
> > > > I "know" him, in that I've personally dealt with him from
> > > > time to time... I don't think he's a subscriber here, but
> > > > at any rate, I usually let him have the items, and just
> > > > shrug it off (like a large removable disk drive subsystem
> > > > that I honestly would have had trouble with shipping).
> > > >
> > > > But I always get a big, big wide grin when AEK bids against
> > > > the guy, and generally wins...
> > > >
> > > > BTW, the guy in question is a decent guy, didn't want to
> > > > make it seem otherwise, it's just the his collection has
> > > > no public face of any kind, and so it's like this stuff
> > > > is just being sucked into a black hole...
> > >
> > Steve wrote:
> > > Certainly, I didn't want it to seem as though this was
> > > "bad". Al Kossow has won an auction of mine and I
> > > think he does have a website with very useful stuff on
> > > it. Ebay is a fairly pure form of capitalism. It's
> > > just me crying in my beer about not having pockets as
> > > deep. Still, if one gets lucky, and finds something
> > > misclassified or I can catch someone sleeping
> > > (sometimes literally, at 2:00 AM), bargains can STILL
> > > be had on eBay.
> >
> > Oddly enough, eBay should reflect the highest prices. instead, some view it
> > as producing the lowest. I'm not sure where this logic comes from.
It just depends in the item. There will be no bargain Altairs or
IMSAIs on E-Bay. But I'm picking up 9-track magtapes for reasonable
prices, albeit slightly more expensive than Mark Tapley has been
selling them for (I'm sampling the waters, so to speak). Ditto
the more obscure stuff...
As to the view that E-Bay *should* produce the lowest prices? No
logic involved there, Dick, that's faith on the part of some
people in the open hand of Adam Smith- a view I don't share.
Comments about the failure of lassie-faire capitalism should
be directed to me personally, please...
-dq
Does anyone have a PDP-11/70 backplane wire list? I have both
a KB11-B and KB11-C printset and neither of them contain a
backplane wire list.
--tnx
--tom
> -----Original Message-----
> From: R. D. Davis [mailto:rdd@rddavis.org]
> It seems that way. I remember a time when one could find a wide
> variety of classic computers advertised on Usenet newsgroups, for sale
> to the first person to make a reasonable, or not so reasonable, offer
> or pay the advertised price. Some of it was free plus shipping. I've
Are you saying that doesn't happen any more?
> rather try to conduct their own private auctions or else they post ads
> mentioning that they're selling the equipment on e-bay; we see this
> happening on classiccmp as well.
"Private auctions?" If you mean selling at a price of "best offer,"
that's probably perfectly reasonable for something of which you can't
decide the value.
As for posting an add for an ebay auction, I won't say they can't do it,
but it annoys me. If I wanted to go to ebay to find the stuff, I would.
> One would think that, like the PDP-11s etc. were several years ago,
> the AS/400, Aviion, VAX 4000 and Alpha systems, etc. would now be
Perhaps it's a "right place, right time" thing. My Aviion was free.
Needs something done to repair the clamps in the SIMM socket -- I
haven't really got the equipment to solder a SIMM socket, or I'd rip one
out of a peesee mainboard for this thing.
Of course, it's difficult to find DG/UX for one, once you _have_ this
Aviion. :)
I've seen VAXStation 4000 systems for very reasonable (sub $100) prices,
which is fine, considering how many of them are still in use.
You can likely pick up free CISC AS/400s.
> Perhaps a number of things: the emphasis on recycling, too many
> collectors seeking collectors' items as opposed to hackish toys, sales
> of scrap to china, etc.
Well, it's kind of conceited to think that everyone wants to be a
"computer collector" these days ;) I think the other points -- especially
the recycling bit -- are right on. The solution, of course, is to find
out where is your local recycling center, and to establish a relationship
with somebody there. Many have no problems about selling computer-related
trash, especially when they can get more for it than the could by recycling
it. If you'll pay them $20 for that VAXStation 4000, you'd probably get it.
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
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