> > When you opened the box with your COCO, what useful work would it do with the
> > $399 you had just spent? Could you write a letter? Could you write and
> > compile a Fortran program?
> A REAL programmer can write a FORTRAN program in ANY language.
> There was a fairly good (even though Microsoft) BASIC interpreter in ROM.
> A REAL programmer could write a FORTRAN program with it.
My Data Structures prof lamented the fact (by his observation)
that most people write Pascal in its FORTRAN subset...
My first computer language was ALFIE,
Algebraic Language For Interactive Environments
on the CDC 6500 at Purdue. It was a superset of BASIC that
most notably inluded FORTRAN FORMATted I/O (READ & WRITE
when issued with a line number reference were FORTRAN
style, the line number cntaining a FORMAT statement).
Good Morning! <ding><ding> This is ALFIE! <ding><ding>
<ding> Teletype ASR33 bell.
While cleaning at the warehouse today I found the top half of a apf
MP1000 console with the two controllers attached. Now I have to hope
somewhere in this place I have the bottom? Awhile back I picked up 4
cartridges for this thing and at this rate I should have a complete
working unit by August. :-)
> On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, David Woyciesjes wrote:
> > Did someone say power cords??? I got a box of about 4 dozen if you need
> Heh. I can get you about 4 dozen boxes of 'em....
I have finally figured out what the dealieo is with this... I've
got so many it's as if two or three came with every device. But
I was the one who unpacked almost everything at the office for
the last 6 years.
So what's happening is that they are reproducing. I think you're
safe with just two in a box, they're not bunnies, but when you put
three or more together, they gain some kind of sexual critical mass
and start reproducing.
Everything that's been given away had a power cord, and almost
nothing has been thrown away. So this has got to be the answer...
From: Cameron Kaiser <spectre(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu>
>> If a formula for determining classic computer cool factor gets finalized,
>> I'd like to create a calculator script on the VCF website so that people
>> can enter their parameters and have their score automatically computed.
>> We need a unit or label for this number.
Feh! Too common, everyone has a few many don't use them.
First it should be dimensionless, those are weird enough. If not then
like DB (DeciBell) which will give it a log or exponential character though
I'd be interested in seeing other oddly shaped numbers.
A possible name? Calcula with a range of values from microcalcula
(watch calc or smaller) to Kilo or maybe megacalcula(Sage! or other beast).
> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 14:49:00 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com>
> Subject: Googling and "egg-sucking" (was Re: "Toy" computers...)
> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0204281433220.29291-100000(a)george.home.org>
> --- Doc <doc(a)mdrconsult.com> wrote:
> > On Sun, 28 Apr 2002, Peter C. Wallace wrote:
> > > On Sun, 28 Apr 2002, Doc wrote:
> > > > Dude.
> > > > Fire up your favorite Open Source browser. Go to
> > > > http://www.google.com
> > > > Do a search for this (quotation marks included):
> > > >
> > > > "Teach Grandpa to suck eggs"
> > >
> > > BTW Google doesn't find the quoted string...
> I got one hit with this...
> "teaching grandpa to suck eggs"
> And a bunch more by using the exact phraseology I heard growing up...
> "teach your grandma to suck eggs"
> With Google, spelling (and precise word selection) counts.
> > Argh.
> > Once again, what I thought was a universal expression turns out to be
> > a Texasism.
> I would count it as an American Colloquialism, but I don't think of the
> phrase as uniquely Texan.
Hey, guys. Simplify. A Google search on the phrase "suck eggs" leads
to a clear explanation of the historical use of the phrase, dating
back to the 16th century in English, and older in other languages.
< http://www.quinion.com/words/qa/qa-tea1.htm >
Dan Wright <dtwright(a)uiuc.edu> wrote:
>Though, I think any machines that are truly on-topic wouldn't be able to run
>IRIX 6.5 anyway ;)
>- Dan Wright
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>You mean it'll work with the older mac's? It has a "normal" (for MAC's)
>cable, and its model number is 1710AV.
I just checked the tech manual for the 1710AV, it indeed has the standard
RGB plug, so you should be good to go with just about any mac that has an
RGB port. Some of the older ones will only be able to display in 640x480
resolution, but the Q650 you are looking into will do higher.
If you want the PDF of the manual, let me know, I'll send it to you
offlist. It's about 3.6MB, has some interesting notes about repair
problems with that model (Apple even has/had a repair extension program
in place for some of it)
>It has what appears to be
>pass-through's for the mouse and for a mike, that funny thing that looks like
>the USB symbol but isn't
That's the ADB port. Predates USB by some time. The idea was you could
run one cable bundle from the screen to the Mac, and then be able to plug
the keyboard and mic into the screen (mouse would be connected to the
keyboard's ADB port).
>but it's only a 16"
>diagonal visible (not viewable) screen so I don't think it's supposed to be a
>17", though you never know these days.
It is listed as a 17" with 16.1" viewable image size. Although, it was
made back in the day when apple was a little less than honest with their
screen sizes (before they were sued over it), so who knows what it really
>I saw a
>Quadra 650 or something on that order for $5 earlier today. It had a part of
>the front face missing, else I'd have probably looked inside.
Probably missing the CD bezel. Most likely it was stripped of the CD
before being junked. If the CD is missing, verify that the rest of the
system is there, who knows what else was pulled.
Pat Finnegan wrote:
>Cool. Next question: is there any software for MSDOS or Linux (preferably
>that I don't need to pay for) that will read/write CP/M-86 (1) hard disk
>partitions or (2) 1.44M floppies. I've noticed 22DSK doesn't support much
>more than 5-1/4" floppies.
Out-of-the-box "CP/M-86 for the IBM PC" does not support 1.44 MB diskettes.
But if you still need it: some time ago I wrote a software package called
"The 1.44 MB Feature for CP/M-86" that provides this support as an add-on to
standard CP/M-86 for IBM.
See the CP/M-86 software repository at www. seanet.com/~klaw
There's also a definition for 22disk in the package.