While that offers an attractive option, aside from the monitors, which are heavy, and the printers, which seldom work, I've found few Apple]['s with the PSU still in place down in the pit. It will work better now that the weather's more pleasant, because I'll be able to toss 'em in the dumpster and bring only the PSU in the house. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Cisin (XenoSoft)" <cisin(a)xenosoft.com> To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 9:55 AM Subject: Re: Power Cords (Was: RE: Micro$oft Biz'droid Lusers (was: OT email response format)")

On Sat, 27 Apr 2002, Pat Finnegan wrote: SIGTERM might work better, since SIGHUP is often used as a restart signal in modern software. SIGSTOP also might work temporarily, but someone is bound to come along and issue a SIGCONT or SIGKILL. -Toth

Stop complaining. I've offered these to list-followers at no cost above the shipping, yet only one person's taken me up on that offer. Clearly, you guys don't want the things. They're just so much hardware, not a litter of puppies. I've got sense enough not to let my mongrel bitch out to roam when she's in season, which happens to be the case right now, so I won't have this sort of problem with puppies. I find that buying an Apple][ or IIe, which have very similar PSU's, for the purpose of recycling the PSU is worth the $3 or so that the computer costs. I've got more 4116's than I ever wanted or needed, and I don't use the old 1 MHz 6502 any more, though I have plenty. Why should I clutter up my basement with hardware not even you guys want? Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Finnegan" <pat(a)purdueriots.com> To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 5:00 PM Subject: Re: Murdering Classic machines (was: Re: Power Cords (Was: RE: Micro$oft Biz'droid Lusers (was: OT email response format)")) the able

I'm primarily in the business of proving conceptual designs can be made workable. To do this, I usemultiple SBC's and various ways of communicating between or monitoring them in order to measure and control the progress of the tasks without interfering with their progress. I've found it's easier to set up a single PSU with its switch and a dedicated reset button for each SBC rather than wiring up a complicated harness for each installation. That way I can focus on the complexity of the task and won't have to worry about the complexity of the power distribution harness. Unlike many small PSU's, the Apple][/IIe PSU has the four voltages I'm likely to use, AND it costs about $3-5 to get one in functional condition. I keep a small meter with me so I can make certain it works when I'm out "Thrift Shopping" so I can measure the outputs. I suppose I could ask the guy in the store whether he'd sell just the PSU for $1 and take the $1 off the price of the Apple ... I'm not confident they'd go for that, however. Comparable PSU's cost $15-$25 on the used/surplus market, so they keep me happy. These apples are not harmed in any way. If you want one for parts or a spare, or whatever, let me know and they're yours in whatever number you want, up to what I've got, of course, for the cost of freight. Some of 'em are in really good shape. It's a shame, I know, to waste 'em, but otherwise they, and their PSU's end up in the dumpster at the thrift store, and they don't let me raid that. Anyone who wants to "rescue" a PSU-less Apple ][ or IIe should contact me off list from time to time. I'll package 'em for you but you've got to pay the freight (via USPS) up front. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tothwolf" <tothwolf(a)concentric.net> To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 5:12 PM Subject: Re: Power Cords (Was: RE: Micro$oft Biz'droid Lusers (was: OT email response format)")