BTW, I am interested in either a z80 big board or a xerox 820 if
anyone has one they want to find a new home for...
--tom
At 09:03 AM 3/16/02 -0500, you wrote:
>> At 10:03 PM 3/15/02 -0600, you wrote:
>> >I've got what I was told is a BigBoard. Can someone check
>> >out the picture at:
>> >
>> >http://www.dittman.net/z80.jpg
>> >
>> >and see if you recognize it?
>>
>> That is a Xerox 820, which is the same schematically as a z80 big board.
>> The big board was a different form factor (the same size as an 8" floppy
>> drive) and was usually a kit.
>
>If California Digital is still in business, I believe the
>boxed CP/M they were (are?) selling is for the Xerox 820...
>
>If gone now, I have a copy...
>
>-dq
>
>
> BTW, I am interested in either a z80 big board or a xerox 820 if
> anyone has one they want to find a new home for...
Ditto that, and a Little Boards, too (ISTR Allison's
got one or more of the Little Boards)...
-dq
At 09:03 AM 3/16/02 -0500, you wrote:
>> At 10:03 PM 3/15/02 -0600, you wrote:
>> >I've got what I was told is a BigBoard. Can someone check
>> >out the picture at:
>> >
>> >http://www.dittman.net/z80.jpg
>> >
>> >and see if you recognize it?
>>
>> That is a Xerox 820, which is the same schematically as a z80 big board.
>> The big board was a different form factor (the same size as an 8" floppy
>> drive) and was usually a kit.
>
>If California Digital is still in business, I believe the
>boxed CP/M they were (are?) selling is for the Xerox 820...
It would appear that it is still available and reasonably priced!
http://www.cadigital.com/software.htm
--tom
>If gone now, I have a copy...
>
>-dq
>
>
> Here's a great test. If the thought of using the list to respond to an
> off-topic posting is appealing but responding to just the individual
> originator of the message isn't, then I'd suggest that maybe you have an
> ego problem that is being fed by having a semi-captive audience.
I'm in total agreement with this. Believe it or not, each and
every time I make first response to such a thread, I do so with
the intention of sending it only to the poster... then just after
I click send, I once again realize that REPLY goes to the list
instead of the SENDER and REPLY TO ALL doesn't work at all... [0]
Once I've done that I regret it, but admittedly not enough to
stop my subsequent OT posts in that thread.
Recently, I've had just enough presence of mind to remember
to re-address the message.
Outlook is programmable, so it can be made to operate the
way I want it to regardless of how brain-dead the listserver
software might be (I haven't been happy with any listservers
other than the IBM BITNET-hosted ones; this seems to be a function
no one else can do right). I guess I need to get started,
as soon as the Cyber simulator is finished...
[0] If you can't believe that anyone can be this absent-minded,
then you haven't interacted with a very wide range of people
-dq
> Where are you located? I'm just outside of Orlando Florida.
I'm in the Netherlands, so that's not exactly next door. But I don't think I'm
going to have much trouble finding a HP-85, at least I hope not.
> > About two months ago I noticed a complete HP-85 (tapes, manuals and a 19"
> > rack with HP-IB equipment)
>
> Was it on a pull out drawer and in a cabinet that was about 18" tall?
> If so I've seen those before, they're a data acquision system and it
> usually has a HP 3497 Data Acquision unit in the bottom. There's a number
> for the complete unit but I can't remeber exactly what it is. Somewhere I
> have a couple of manuals and tapes for that system.
Yes, that sounds exactly like it. Usually they have stuff standing there for a
few months, but this one was gone pretty quick. They normally have lots of
weird computer systems (not at the moment; I checked last Friday and it was
almost empty), but I tend to stick to the smaller systems; mostly what you see
are industrial controllers in 2m tall 19" racks....
Michiel
> >Douglas Quebbeman wrote:
>
> > Sure, but SPAM is at least partly pervasive due to the low cost
> > of harvesting addresses. This might bump it into the unprofitable
> > zone...
>
> I have asked for comments on the following - does anyone care?
I think your solution is somewhat Byzantine. Why not just
edit your headers to something that can't be replied to
by output from a harvester?
Regards,
-dq
> Yes, I have one. But I'm not sure if it works and I haven't had the time
>to test it or needed it bad enough to drive me to find a way to test it.
That's probably the one I gave you. It was working just fine last year. The
caddys can also be hard to find. I look for them at every ham fest / swap
meet.
SteveRob
>At 01:00 AM 3/16/02 +0000, you wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I'm looking for a HP-IB CD-Rom drive.
> >
> >Did one ever exist? I've never heard of such an animal...
> >
> >-tony
> >
> >
>
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 08:28:44 -0600
From: Paul Kasley <kasley(a)fnal.gov>
Reply-To: greenkeys(a)mailman.qth.net
To: greenkeys(a)mailman.qth.net
Subject: [GreenKeys] News item for WC2XPF
John F. Auwaerter,76,
Pioneer who helped create computer language
by Krystyna Slivinski
Special to the Tribune
John F. Auwaerter, 76, of Park Ridge, was a pioneer in the
telecommunications industry who was instrumental in the development of
the American Standard Code for Information Interchange, or the ASCII
computer language.
The code was the first 8-bit standard code that allowed characters, such
as those found on a keyboard, to be represented by the same codes on
many different kinds of computers.
"That was a major change in standardization for the telecommunications
industry," said Sylvan Silberg, a fellow former research engineer at
Teletype Corp. The code was developed in the 1960s through Mr.
Auwaerter's involvement an Institute of Electrical Engineers committee,
Silberg said.
"He traveled all over the world defining what this code would represent.
This is the code that is still used in PCs today," Silberg said.
Mr. Auwaerter died of cancer Saturday, Feb. 23, in Fountain Hill, Ariz.
Born in Chicago, Mr. Auwaerter served two years in the Navy as an ensign
stationed in the Pacific in World War II. He was a graduate of
Northwestern University in Evanston, where he received a bachelor's
degree in electrical engineering in the late 1950s. After working as an
engineer at General Electric in Baltimore, Mr. Auwaerter joined Teletype
Corp. in Chicago.
At the same time, he attended DePaul University and got a law degree in
the late 1950s. Despite the law degree, Mr. Auwaerter's career remained
focused on telecommunications.
During the late 1950s, he was responsible for developing a nationwide
network that provided up-to-date weather reports every 15 minutes, which
teletypes supplied to the Federal Aviation Administration.
"He knew how to get the most out of people and make them love it,"
Silberg said.
His other achievements included the creation of a secure high-speed
communication network for the federal government in the 1960s. He
retired from Teletype in the early 1980s as vice president of sales.
"He was quite dynamic and brilliant," said his daughter, Mary Loftus.
"He was in charge in whatever he got involved in."
Other survivors include two grandchildren.
A memorial service will begin at 11a.m. Friday in St. Paul if the Cross
Catholic Church, 320 S. Washington Ave., Park Ridge.
--Chicago Tribune, March 14, 2002, Thursday
(verbatim from Trib)
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Paul Kasley W9TS
Fermi National Accelerator Lab, Batavia, IL
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I Second that!
Firstly, regardless of your position on this matter, we must
all realize that we are enjoying the *privledge* of using this
*public* forum for discourse.
This privledge is granted purely by Jay's unselfish contribution
of time, effort, and bandwith. We owe Jay alot-- hassling him
for something that is part and parcel with a public forum such
as ours is unjustified and unfair.
The burden of keeping our forum relevent does not lie with one
person-- it lies with us all. Help preserve our relevence by
keeping your posts on-topic (yeah I know, I'm a guilty party too).
Yes, a few bums use our forum as a sleeping place, stinking it
up as they tend to do. But we have the power to evict them with
the <DEL> key. A small effort by many, is more powerful than
a great effort by a few (or the one).
It's cold, here in Kansas. I think I'll break up this soapbox,
and make a nice warm fire. Maybe I'll even roast a few hotdogs.
Jeff
On Fri, 15 Mar 2002 23:53:00 -0800 "William R. Buckley" <hhacker(a)ev1.net>
writes:
> Moral: Jay, given that you were granted control, and given that
> others were fully satisfied with your having such control (and the
> attendent responsibilities), it is clear that you should not give up
such
> control (lest the list go the way of the ICWS) and you should stick to
your
> guns.
>
> My vote is for Jay!
>
> William R. Buckley
>
> Sellam Wrote....
> > Ok, this is where I object. It is NOT your list. This list
>
> That's funny you should say that now Sellam, because you were the
> first one
> to post to me privately during the great "reply-to" debate that "it
> is your
> list, take care of it well....", and "you make the rules... do what
> you
> wish". I will go dig up your past private email to me that said just
> that if
> you would like. You have also posted words similar to that on the
> list in
> the past, I noted them well. I find it interesting that you are
> suddenly
> changing your tune. Does your past stance on this issue no longer
> mesh with
> your adgenda perhaps?
>
> > I don't want you to be the one to decide solely
> > how it is run. I, for one, would like some input on issues.
>
> You do get some input. I listen. However I also make the final
> determination. If you don't like it, or feel that I don't get
> reasonable
> input from the list members, please feel free to start an alternate
> list -
> that appears to be your motivation in any case.
>
> > That was true before. Unfortunately, the list has now been
> infiltrated
> > with spammers, which is quite unfortunate.
>
> Infiltrated with Spammers? See Jerome's recent post on this topic
> for a
> reality check Sellam.
>
> > Kill all off-topic messages (start with this one) as well as
> > spam.
>
> That statement is what a flamer would call a "target rich
> environment". I
> think I'll leave the gauntlet on the ground.
>
> > Jay, don't take this too personally, but that answer SUCKS! When
> will you
> > be "damn well ready"? The list asked for a solution several weeks
> ago. I
> > think it's time to finally do something.
>
> Sellam, you're trying to bait me. I'm not falling for it. Live with
> it.
>
> Jay West
>
>
>
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