test-drb March 2002

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by tosteve＠yahoo.com

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22 years, 4 months

What Computer is This and Who is This Guy?

by d_l_mcd＠hotmail.com

Here's a picture from 1966 of an IBM computer at the IBM computing center on Manhattan (New York City, New York USA). The text for the photo says that the computer is being used to make a payroll calculation. Visible are 4 big-fridge-sized reel-reel tape devices, the console with operator seated at it, and some other things in the background. What's the computer model? Does anybody know who this guy (operator) is/was? Just a neat photo. It's about a 150k jpg file at this url: http://www.sover.net/~danm/computer_room.jpg _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

22 years, 4 months

boards drilled and undrilled

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On March 16, Ethan Dicks wrote: > I'd like to see what comes out of > ExpressPCB. I've considered using them, but I think most of my > stuff is too ambitious to fit their size guidelines (not because there > are too many parts, or too many holes, but a replacement board to > match a missing one is too large - 6"x9" for one recent project I > soldered by hand - an LED scoreboard). I've used ExpressPCB...just last week, as a matter of fact. Their boards are quite decent, and their service is fast and predictable. -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Watch those lateral G's man, St. Petersburg, FL I've got sandwiches in my lap!" -Sridhar

22 years, 4 months

List Management

by mranalog＠attbi.com

Sellam Ismail wrote: > Gee, am I that bad? Sorry I have an opinion. The trouble ALWAYS starts when someone posts an opinion to the list. An opinion is not a question, or an answer. It's not news or information. It's not a recollection and it's not history. It's not on topic. Opinions are unavoidable, but self control (and counting to 50,000) can really cut down on the noise. --Doug ========================================= Doug Coward Analog Computer Online Museum and History Center http://dcoward.best.vwh.net/analog Analogrechner, calculateur analogique, calcolatore analogico, analoogrekenaar, komputer analogowy, analog bilgisayar, kampiutere ghiyasi, analoge computer. =========================================

22 years, 4 months

Clipper Collectors? (Intergraph Interpro)

by kris＠catonic.net

Anyone on here collecting Intergraph Interpro workstations? -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR | TGIFreeBSD... 'Nuff said. <kris(a)nospam.catonic.net> | IM: KrisBSD | HSV, AL. ------------------------------------------------------- "Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony."

22 years, 4 months

VT-320 Hack+Tip for Smokers

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

>> LK201: >> > I found a few of the keys didn't work right on >> > one of them. This is one of those conductive rubber >> > dome keyboards (and cheap and junky ones at that). > >All the LK201s I've worked on have used membrane switches. But I believe >there are several versions. Actually not less than 4 different versions as LK201 and then you had the 301, 401 and later versions based on it. >Since the LK201 protocol is fairly easily available, I would have thought >it would be possible to use a single-chip microcontroller to link a PC >keyboard to a LK201 port. I've never tried to write the code, though. This is doable. Though most of the LK201s had 8051 chips and you could program a 8751 and put that in if you like. Allison

22 years, 4 months

I have a PDP-11/34 programmer's console, what should I do with it?

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

Hi, I have a PDP-11/34 programmer's console but no PDP-11/34, what should I do with it? My options are: 1) get a PDP-11/34 2) trade it with something I need more, like a PDP-8/A power regulator(G8018) and limited function panel so that I can build my third PDP-8/A :-) PDP-11s were never really my plan to collect, but I wouldn't mind having one specimen of 2.9 BSD running. So, may be I should get an 11/34? cheers, -Gunther -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

22 years, 4 months

eBay Purchase

by jhfine＠idirect.com

Help - What am I doing wrong? I sent the following response (SEE AFTER DOUBLE LINES of ======) to a previous e-mail in respect of auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2006598832 This time he did not even reply. Am I being overly cautious is making sure that the correct customs documents are used? Previously, we have agreed on the Shipping, Handling and insurance to be $ 24.45 and that he would ship to Canada, but for some reason which I can't understand, he seems to think that using the GREEN CN-22 or a COMMERCIAL INVOICE is not a reasonable requirement. While the shipping seems a bit high, I did not quibble and agreed to pay what was asked. His Positive feedback seems satisfactory, so what could the problem be? His name and address are: Bobert1959(a)aol.com Bob Bruns 6334 Alta Oaks Dr Garland, TX 75043 However, this information seems to not be traceable. Is there anyone at eBay whom I can contact? Any other suggestions? Sincerely yours, Jerome Fine MY RESPONSE TO HIS E-MAIL FOLLOWS: Bob Burns does not reply. ================================================ ================================================ >Bobert1959(a)aol.com wrote: > the terms of the auction are decided prior to the end. No other terms will be > accpeted. The shipping amount has agreed on. If for some reason the auction > terms are unacceptable. I will sell the item to the next highest bidder. Jerome Fine replies: If everything in this e-mail is satisfactory, please respond with "Confirmed" as the first word in the body of your reply. Also, please add if you wish me to prepare the COMMERCIAL INVOICE for you. Your reply seems to suggest that by requesting that you comply with shipping requirements at port of entry into Canada (and probably any country - although I am not familiar with regulations elsewhere), I am changing the terms of the auction. I hope that this reply will help you to understand that the terms of the auction are not part of the requirements for shipping the drive and that I have nothing to do with these requirements. In addition, if you read my last e-mail carefully, all that you have been asked to do is to correctly provide the value of the item to the customs officials in Canada. When a package is sent via USPS, then I understand that a GREEN CN-22 form is used. However, since I am not aware of exactly how USPS handles air shipments, I may be incorrect. In that case, customs officials in Canada may require a "Commercial Invoice" which is filled out (based on my limited understanding) as a simple paper with: =================================== COMMERCIAL INVOICE Your Name, Address and phone contact number My Name, Address and phone contact number Value of the Drive: $ US 11.50 =================================== It is that simple. I don't set the requirements. Here is my part if you need to send a Commercial Invoice: Fine Services & Co. Ltd. PST Exempt - 1531 2240 2 Inglis Gate Willowdale, Ontario, Canada M2R 3G3 Attention: Jerome Fine (416) 667-8233 Please note that ALL FIVE lines are essential for the complete address and contact phone number. In addition, ALL FIVE lines are essential on the outside of the box and on any shipping document. I will include this information on a sheet of paper which I will include with the money order and the auction Item Number 2006598832. All you will need to do if a Commercial Invoice is required is to add your contact phone number to your name and address plus the actual value of the eBay auction. Again, I don't set the shipping arrangements - they are imposed by Canadian Customs at the port of entry. I you wish, I can prepare the COMMERCIAL INVOICE for you - all you will need to do is add your contact phone number to the paper. I anticipate that you don't wish to violate the requirements that Customs Canada imposes. I certainly don't think that a COMMERCIAL INVOICE is a difficult requirement since it takes less than a minute to fill out. All of our e-mails have certainly taken much longer. Certainly I have never encountered anyone who has ever refused to provide a COMMERCIAL INVOICE to Canadian Customs since all of the information is normally available in any case, just not consolidated onto the form which they insist on - although I agree it is a pain in the posterior if you ask my opinion. Sincerely yours, Jerome Fine

22 years, 4 months

Z80 BigBoard ID Needed

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > If California Digital is still in business, I believe the > > boxed CP/M they were (are?) selling is for the Xerox 820... > > That is certainly possible, Doug. However, the one that they were > selling a while back (for $9.95, IIRC) was for the Xerox 1800 terminal > less "laptop". Whether it is directly compatible with the 810, I do not > know. This purchase was circa 1985... But that's the right price... I'll just have to look at the disks when I get home again... -dq

22 years, 4 months

Z80 BigBoard ID Needed

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> At 10:03 PM 3/15/02 -0600, you wrote: > >I've got what I was told is a BigBoard. Can someone check > >out the picture at: > > > >http://www.dittman.net/z80.jpg > > > >and see if you recognize it? > > That is a Xerox 820, which is the same schematically as a z80 big board. > The big board was a different form factor (the same size as an 8" floppy > drive) and was usually a kit. If California Digital is still in business, I believe the boxed CP/M they were (are?) selling is for the Xerox 820... If gone now, I have a copy... -dq

22 years, 4 months

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