In a message dated 2/7/02 9:00:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, marvin(a)rain.org
writes:
> Interesting, you are the only other person (besides myself) with a
> Molecular that I've seen mentioned on this listserver! I got mine when
>
I had a Molecular at one time. It used a 8" floppy disk and a 5 1/4 HD. I
think I still have some of the SW on floppies around
I got mine from a school district office and passed it on when I closed my
warehouse. Nice Machine.
Paxton
Astoria, OR
Hmm... speciality. I collect all sorts of things, like beer bottle tops
and teaspoons. As far as computers are concerned, I've started to weed out
the less interesting (to me) from my fifty-something collection.
I have quite a few Acorn machines from the '80s, because I worked for them
or places that used/repaired their machines for most of that decade. I
have a fair collection of Acorn-related software, lots of old price lists,
sales brochures, etc, and a pretty good technical document collection.
Also a few unusual items like a prototype BBC-ARM inteface card which was
used when they were developing what became their first RISC-based machine,
and (thanks, Kevan!) an ARM Development System which was a semi-commercial
co-processor for the BBC Micro.
Most of the rest are things I've collected because I lusted after them
years ago when they were unaffordable, or they have some special
significance, or they round out a family.
An Exidy Sorcerer was the first machine I owned, so I have one of those,
and the same monitor, printer, etc as I had originally (they're not all the
same ones I originally owned, though).
An Apple ][ was a machine I used at college, and a //e is a better version
so I have both. To follow the line, I have a Mac Plus with some add-ons
because it's cool as well as being the ]['s successor, a IIvx, and finally
a NeXT slab -- another machine I lusted after at the time.
Another line has to do with PETs. I have a 2001-8K, and to go before it a
KIM-1, and to follow, a Vic 20 and a C128 (not interesting so relegated to
an attic), and an Amiga 500 Plus. Contemporaneous with the Sorcerer, Apple
][, and PET is my Nascom, and a ZX81. I nearly had a ZX80 twice, but not
quite. That's followed by a Sinclair Spectrum and a Spectrum II to
contrast with the BBC Micros, and a Sinclair QL to contrast with slightly
later machines.
I have a few DEC machines. I got to know the QBus machines quite well when
I worked for a third-party maintenance company, and I always wanted an
11/23. A few years later, I got one -- CPU box only, no storage, and
that's really what started the collection about 15 years ago. I would go
looking for some part or device, and when I found it there would inevitably
be other parts too. The other parts wouldn't make a whole, so I'd collect
still more. I've had at least three 11/23s, a couple of 11/73-S's, a few
11/03's, part of an 11/24, an 11/83, and a fairly good 11/34. I traded the
11/34 when I got an 11/40, and now I have a PDP-8/E (which was the first
machine I used "hands on"). I also have two MicroVAXes which will run VMS
"one day".
My third 11/23 came with 7th Edition UNIX and a lot of disk and tapes,
which is how I got into UNIX just before I went back to University. There
I discovered SGIs, so I now have a collection of Indigos and Indys. And
the inevitable Sparcstation and the like.
There are a few others of course, which roughly fit in with the ones i've
mentioned. There's even a PC (an early Intel model)! Networking equipment
too, because that's what I do (and on a few occasions, my hobby helped get
whatever the job was at the time: Acorn, UNIX, networking).
What else do I want...
Well, space is limited so an ASR33 that folds up and fits on a bookshelf
would be good. More bookshelves, too. More DEC microfiche. An MMU for my
11/40. A copy of Spacewar to run on my 11/40 and VT11. More shelves. Dev
Pak and manuals for my Sorcerer. I've asked for a 25th hour in the day for
the last three Christmasses and four birthdays.
... not much, really ;-)
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
I like the Commodore and Apple 80's home computers and have multiples of most
models therein along with software and whatever docs I can find. My real
love at this point is older unix workstations - Sparcstations, Decstations,
HP 9000 series workstations and the like. Although I might not have *quite*
as many as most people on the list, I live in a 2 bdrm apt - and it's
getting crowded :-)
-Linc.
In The Beginning there was nothing, which exploded - Yeah right...
Calculating in binary code is as easy as 01,10,11.
> ----------
> From: Chris
>
> >> >Now, what about the face plate?
> >>
> >> More Duct Tape?
> >>
> >You forgot the cardboard...
>
> I was thinking... remove the front plastic from the CD tray, then stretch
> duct tape across the opening for the CD bay. Cut a slit into the tape
> that lines up with the CD tray. Let it eject thru the slit in the tape...
> you've got a "poor man's slot loading CD". :-)
>
> -chris
>
Chris, are you feeling okay? A little tired, and getting punchy, are we?
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> ----------
> From: Doc
>
> On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, David Woyciesjes wrote:
> > > ----------
> > > From: Doc
> > > You mean Apple shipped those boxes with *face-plates*???
> > >
> > > Doc
> > >
> > Eh, face plate, trim piece, bezel, whatever you call it... Yer pickin'
> on
> > me, aren't ya?
>
> No, I meant I hardly ever see a machine with the bezel intact. Or
> even present. I thought they were *born* with the gaps there.
>
> Doc
>
Ahh, okay. Hmmm, must a phenomena that happens only around you...
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FYI...
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 09:46:19 -0800
From: David Weil <dweil(a)computer-museum.org>
Subject: Computer Museum of America on Tuesday night's PBS NOVA
Last April, a film crew from Boston came to Computer Museum of America at
Coleman College to film the staff operating several machines in the Museum
collection. See the results this coming TUESDAY night on PBS NOVA at 8pm.
--
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> HP Unix Lunch Box (sorry, can't think of the number right now)
I think you mean the HP Intergral PC aka HP IPC. It's got the printer on
top, has a Gas Plasma display, IIRC, and can run HP-UX V5 off of Floppy, and
it can also have stuff like BASIC in ROM packs that plug into the back.
Zane
--- Huw Davies <Huw.Davies(a)kerberos.davies.net.au> wrote:
> I think I'm trying to collect all of those computers I wanted to buy new
> when I was younger but didn't have the money.
You, too? I think that is a factor for lots of us.
> On the list of things to buy:
>
> PDP-8 (I think I want an original but might take an -8S)
They don't cost more now than they do when they were new (few things
we collect do), but they are closer to the old prices than they used
to be ($15,000 USD and $9,995 USD, respectively). I was offered
$1,500 USD for one of my Straight-8s (Classic-8 or "original") many
years ago (before the .com boom), and it doesn't even have console TTY
interface. I do not know what one would sell for now. I don't really
want to know; it is not for sale.
> PDP-11 (A QBUS version with enough disk to run 2.11BSD)
You'll want a board with a KDJ11 CPU like an 11/53 or 11/73 or newer.
2.11BSD requires a CPU that supports split I&D space, IIRC. The KDF11
(PDP-11/23, Pro350, et al.) does not. 2.9BSD runs on lots more CPUs,
but doesn't support as many disk devices (like MSCP controllers) as
originally shipped.
Recently, I've heard about support for more modern disks for 2.9BSD,
but I haven't played with them myself. My personal experiences are
limited to a real 11/24 and multiple RL02 drives and an emulated -11
of various configurations (under simh 2.4) and a variety of emulated
drives (RL02, RK05, RP03, etc.).
-ethan
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There's been a bunch of discussion lately on Macs (mostly relating to first
computers), and it reminded me to ask if anyone knows of a source of RAM for
the IIfx. I'm looking for SIMMs larger than 4MB, but I'm not looking for them
all that hard.
Thanks in advance.
PB Schechter