test-drb February 2002

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Computer Museum of America on Tuesday night's PBS NOVA (fwd)

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>$62 a month is a ripoff price. Unless you meant Digital Cable. Nope... plain old analog cable tv. They really bend their customers over around here... which is why every day on my drive home, I see more mini dish's popping up on people's roofs. They don't even offer Cable Modem service for most of the area yet -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 5 months

Newsflash: Cards

by CARL.P.HIRSCH＠sargentlundy.com

Free registration required - I believe cypherpunks/cypherpunks still works. -carl Tothwolf <tothwolf@concentric. To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> net> cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: Newsflash: Cards owner-classiccmp@clas siccmp.org 02/07/02 02:05 PM Please respond to classiccmp On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, John Allain wrote: > One of our list members just made it to the big leagues. The NY Times > printed a large photo article on Douglas W. Jones today. Seems his > extensive collection of punched cards caught their eye. A good case > for a well-managed collection it seems. > > "When PC Still Means 'Punch Card'" > New York Times, 'Circuits', 07-Feb-2002 Heres a link to the story: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/02/07/technology/circuits/07CARD.html -Toth

22 years, 5 months

Kinda OT a little....

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Reply off-list directly to me please... Guys, how does paying $30 - $40 sound for a sun ultra creator 1 video card (not sure on specs) and a bare bones sun ultra creator 1 desktop, no HDD, no RAM. --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 90581 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

22 years, 5 months

Computer Museum of America on Tuesday night's PBS NOVA (fwd)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Lawrence LeMay [mailto:lemay@cs.umn.edu] > I dont suppose we can return to discussing computers? Anyone > wanna buy a > Prime computer? I was contacted by a reseller i've dealt with in the > past, to see if i had any interest in it. Love to have one, but I imagine I'd hate to move it. :) How large are those things, anyway? Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

22 years, 5 months

Interesting C question

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Hello, all: I have discovered an interesting anomaly while finishing up the 2.2 version of the Altair32 Emulator (to be released this weekend, by the way). Maybe it's my lack of understanding of C or the service pack I applied to MSVC :-) Between version 2.0 and 2.1, BASIC 3.2 was broken -- it was hanging in a loop in the console input code waiting for the right status bits to be set by my port emulator code. While I was setting the right bits, the internal emulator variable wasn't reflecting the assignment. In the sio00h routine in the sio.c module, I declare a local-scope variable of type int that's not initialized... int sio00h (params...){ int nSioStatus ; ... stuff } When in the MSVC debugger, the undeclared variable has the value 0xcccccccc. OK. In the body of the routine, the variable can be set to three values using #defines from the header. For some reason, the variable is not being set to the #define value. As you trace execution, the variable to be returned by the routine remains 0xcccccccc after assignment: nSioStatus = SIO_WDB ; //#defines to 0x80 So, I initialized the variable to 0 and for good measure, returned the int as: return (nSioStatus & 0xff) ; In one of the top calling routines, it gets truncated to a BYTE-size (so to speak) anyway. So I figured that maybe there was a scoping problem but the nSioStatus variable is not used in any other module, nor is it declared extern or module global. The #define appears in multiple headers but are all defined to be the same value. Now, BASIC 3.2 it works but I can't really figure out why. Any thoughts?? Rich

22 years, 5 months

[PDP8-Lovers] Re: if you hadn't already known this about the PDP-8

by jones＠cs.uiowa.edu

Mark Crispin <MRC(a)CAC.Washington.EDU> wrote: > Stacks are very useful, but they are not the solution to everything. Absolutely agreed. > One of the biggest deficiencies of C is its lack of co-routines, since > it only has the stack style of subroutine calling. Yeah, I know about > setjmp/longjmp, but those are one-way, not true co-routines. Well, setjmp and longjmp are pretty powerful. see http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~jones/opsys/threads/ for a machine-independent user-level thread package implemented in C using setjmp and longjmp for control transfers between threads. It comes very close to what a real coroutine afficianado would like. (Writing the thread launch code in a machine independent way was murder.) Curiously, the same thing can be done without longjmp()! I had a student write me a thread package in Pascal once. All he needed was a mechanism to convert pointers to integers and back again (easy enough in standard Pascal, so long as it doesn't check variant records). Given this, his code did essentially the same thing as my thread package. > Of course, talking about co-routines to youngsters is likely to get > their eyes to glaze over, since they won't have a clue as to what I'm > talking about. Indeed. Doug Jones jones(a)cs.uiowa.edu

22 years, 5 months

Computer Museum of America on Tuesday night's PBS NOVA (fwd)

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>Serius, you realy must live way outside civilisation to go thru this >effort to get TV ! Satallite TV isn't an effort thing... it is a how bad do I want to be ripped off by cable thing. (Remember, these are 18" dishes... they are popping up all over the place) Around here, Basic Cable (40 channels, no HBO or nothing) costs $62.00 a month. $10 more for each pay channel you want (HBO, Cinimax, Stars, Encore, TMC, or Showtime). Satallite TV (Dish Network) gives me 200+ channels, PLUS all the pay channels (5 HBO, 3 Cinimax, tons of others... roughly 40 pay channels in all), PLUS country wide "superstations" (WB, UPN, so I can watch Smallville 3 times every tuesday... cause Enterprise sucks so I have to have SOME show to be addicted to) PLUS local broadcast networks (no biggie, I can put an arial up for those), PLUS something like 200 music channels (those things that play a screen saver while playing music) All for $70 a month (I have to pay $5 for my 2nd decoder connection, so really it is $65 a month). So for $3 more than cable, I get more channels that I can count. Only downside... one channel per decoder, two decoders per dish for normal setup (you can go as high as 8 or 9 with some Channel Plus hardware). But that downside matters not to me... the lean-to I live in doesn't make it easy to watch two diferent channels as is... 3 would be sensory overload. And the video quality of Satallite vs Cable isn't even a comparison. But then, if you are a person that can't see the difference between VHS video and DVD video, you probably won't care about that aspect. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 5 months

Sea Container Spelunking (Terminal Junkie Part Two)

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > > containers. I half expected to find some ex-colleagues preserved in > > > aspic. "Oh, John? No, he never _really_ left. No one ever does". > > > > Aspic isn't a preservative, it's a sauce... > > > > Haven't you ever had Lark's Tongues in Aspic? > > > > ;) > > > > -dq > Only while wearing a red robe...... Thank god somebody realized what court this ball was in... ;)

22 years, 5 months

Computer Museum of America on Tuesday night's PBS NOVA (fwd)

by LFessen106＠aol.com

In a message dated 2/7/02 1:12:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, mythtech(a)Mac.com writes: > Around here, Basic Cable (40 channels, no HBO or nothing) costs $62.00 a > month. $10 more for each pay channel you want (HBO, Cinimax, Stars, > Encore, TMC, or Showtime). > DANG! Mine is less than half that - way less. -Linc. In The Beginning there was nothing, which exploded - Yeah right... Calculating in binary code is as easy as 01,10,11.

22 years, 5 months

Working with useful computers (was: What's your specialty?)

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> ---------- > From: LFessen106(a)aol.com > > In a message dated Wed, 6 Feb 2002 9:16:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, Dave > McGuire <mcguire(a)neurotica.com> writes: > > > On February 6, R. D. Davis wrote: > > > of curiosity, how many others here absolutely refuse to work for an > > > employer requiring one to work with those confounded annoyances called > > > Micro$oft products? > > > > Me. > > > > -Dave > > I would like to say that but in all reality I make a lot of money off of > Microsoft products - fixing them. > I mean think about it - if the world ran unix, there would be a lot less > money to be made reinstalling operating systems. > > -Linc. > I must agree with Linc here. If it weren't for M$ products crashing, I wouldn't be making the money to have a classic computer collection... I can understand why you guys wouldn't want to use them, though. --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 90581 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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