test-drb February 2002

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OT: Once in a Lifetime, Twice in Forever

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Subject: Once in a Lifetime, Twice in Forever Once in a Lifetime, Twice in Forever... unless we adopt a new calendar. 8.02pm on February 20 this year will be an historic moment in time. It will not be marked by the chiming of any clocks or the ringing of bells, but at that precise time something will happen which has not occurred for 1,001 years and will never happen again. As the clock ticks over from 8.01pm on Wednesday, February 20, time will, for sixty seconds only, read in perfect symmetry 2002, 2002, 2002, or to be more precise - 20:02, 20/02, 2002. The last time there was such a symmetrical pattern was long before the days of the digital watch and the 24-hour clock - at 10.01am on January 10, 1001. And because the clock only goes up to 23.59, it is something that will never happen again. --Tim VanSant

22 years, 4 months

Honeywell 316 Question

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> >I suppose "picked up" was a bit of an understatement. However I don't think > >the reality of the fact that a Honeywell 316 is sitting in my sun room has > >quite sunk in. Thank you for the advice. I will certainly follow it. > > Which brings up the point of what I'm wondering. Just how big is a > Honeywell 316? What peripherals does it support, and what OS's? I'm only > familiar with DPS-6, DPS-8, and DPS-8000 systems, and of those, even the > DPS-6 isn't exactly small. My understanding is that it ran a small single-user disk-based OS and possibly a realtime OS... Bill Poduska and David Udin & Co. worked with these a bit and based the architecture of the first Prime Computers on the Honeywell 316. I always assumed that the early Prime DOS and RTOS were made to resemble something they'd used before (they weren't ready yet for their magnum opus). -dq p.s.: Didn't the 316 share basic architecture with the 516 & 716?

22 years, 4 months

Questions about a PDP11/93

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

Y'all, I went on a donation pickup today (30-odd Compaq P133 junkers) and after we collected the crap, the guy said "Y'all don't have a way to dispose of mainframe type stuff, do you?" They have a PDP11/93 in their IS control room that's still plugged in. Evidently was in service till a few months ago. <Quoting Wayne from "Wayne's World", as he ogles that guitar> Ooohh, yes. It WILL be mine. <End Quote> The first problem is that my boss was discussing disposal/hauling fees with them, so I couldn't act very interested. The second problem is that I'm completely ignorant of QBus systems, so even if I had been able to crawl around on it, I'd still be clueless. Well, I'd probably know the PSU requirements. It's in a ~36" rack, has 2 tape drives showing with "PDP11/93" badges on each, in 3U modules. One blank [1] 6U front cover that I assume is the QBus backplane? and 2 blank [1] 4U units. The rack itself has the 2-inch louvred side-plates. It looks like it just came out of the crate. Hell, it looks like somebody polished it yesterday. So the questions: Can anybody point me to pictures of an 11/93 that's NOT in a BA23? What's it worth, obsession aside? It's probably going to cost me about $0.50/lb, USD. That's delivered to my garage. I'm guessing that's in the $200 realm. What's the power input? 110V? 220V? Single/triple phase? The tape drives looked like the media would be about the size of a TK50, but there's a horizontal locking lever. I think. I did look at the badges next to the drives; they just say PDP11/93. Does that mean there may be 2 CPUs? There are also a couple of Digital line printers there. I didn't get a model, but I did see ribbon spools about an inch wide. The one that comes with its own table.... They are also reputedly working, and also look like they were polished yesterday. Are they useful? Aquiring minds want. Doc

22 years, 4 months

Fundraiser for Jim Willing's Computer Garage

by vcf＠vintage.org

HELP SAVE THE COMPUTER GARAGE! Jim Willing's Computer Garage has been around for ages. Due to a series of unfortunate events, the Computer Garage collection is in peril, and your help is needed. Jim moved to the midwest last year and has been trying to relocate his collection. The people in whose hands he left the remainder of the collection didn't do a good job of keeping up on storage rent, and so now the collection is in jeopardy of being lost. Additionally, Jim has fallen on hard times. Jim is a very swell guy, has been a computer collector for longer than most of us, and has been a speaker at every single VCF since the beginning, so I feel I owe him a debt of gratitude and have decided to try to help him. For those of you who don't know Jim Willing or have never visited the Computer Garage, go here: http://www.rdrop.com/~jimw The Computer Garage is impressive, and needs to stay intact. I'd like to announce the formation of the Save The Computer Garage Fund. All proceeds from anything I announce for sale to the list will go towards this fund. The goal is to raise $1000. I will be putting up a webpage on the VCF website to solicit donations. In the meantime, if you would like to contribute to the fund, please e-mail me and let me know what you can give. Time is of the essence. I'll be pulling out stuff that I have excess of and posting them to the list for sale. Watch out for that in the next 24 hours. Please help if you can. I know times are tough but even $5 will suffice. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

22 years, 4 months

Fundraiser for Jim Willing's Computer Garage

by GOOI＠oce.nl

I have often visited Jim's website. Are donations possible by VISA/MasterCard? Or by snail-mail, what's the address? (this is the easiest option for me) - Henk. http://home.hetnet.nl/~tshaj > HELP SAVE THE COMPUTER GARAGE! > > Jim Willing's Computer Garage has been around for ages. > Due to a series of unfortunate events, the Computer Garage > collection is in peril, and your help is needed. > For those of you who don't know Jim Willing or have never > visited the Computer Garage, go here: > http://www.rdrop.com/~jimw > > The Computer Garage is impressive, and needs to stay intact. > > I'd like to announce the formation of the Save The Computer > Garage Fund. > All proceeds from anything I announce for sale to the list > will go towards this fund. The goal is to raise $1000. > In the meantime, if you would like to contribute to the fund, > please e-mail me and let me know what you can give. > Time is of the essence. > Please help if you can. I know times are tough but even $5 > will suffice.

22 years, 4 months

Fundraiser for Jim Willing's Computer Garage

by Adrian.Graham＠corporatemicrosystems.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Vintage Computer Festival [mailto:vcf@vintage.org] > Sent: 20 February 2002 11:10 > To: Classic Computers Mailing List > Cc: Bay Area Computer Collector List > Subject: Fundraiser for Jim Willing's Computer Garage > > > > HELP SAVE THE COMPUTER GARAGE! > > Jim Willing's Computer Garage has been around for ages. Due > to a series > of unfortunate events, the Computer Garage collection is in peril, and > your help is needed. I'll link off my museum site (Binary Dinosaurs) too. How can us UK types send in donations? -- Adrian Graham, Corporate Microsystems Ltd e: adrian.graham(a)corporatemicrosystems.com w: www.corporatemicrosystems.com w2: www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk (Online Computer Museum)

22 years, 4 months

OT: Once in a Lifetime, Twice in Forever

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 20, Joe wrote: > As the clock ticks over from 8.01pm on Wednesday, February 20, time will, > for sixty seconds only, read in perfect symmetry 2002, 2002, 2002, or to be > more precise - 20:02, 20/02, 2002. > > The last time there was such a symmetrical pattern was long before the days > of the digital watch and the 24-hour clock - at 10.01am on January 10, > 1001. And because the clock only goes up to 23.59, it is something that > will never happen again. I remember 12:34 5/6/78 quite well...it was amusing... -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

22 years, 4 months

KeyStone Learning Spam

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

I have complained, via email, to the registered admin contact and the registered billing contact. I humbly suggest that everyone do so, *politely*. Doc Domain Name: KEYSTONELEARNING.COM Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, INC. Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com Name Server: NS.XMISSION.COM Name Server: NS1.XMISSION.COM Updated Date: 30-oct-2001 Registrant: KeyStone Learning Systems (KEYSTONELEARNING3-DOM) 2241 Larsen Parkway Provo, UT 84606 US Domain Name: KEYSTONELEARNING.COM Administrative Contact, Technical Contact: Roth, Jeff (RJ538-ORG) isd(a)KEYLEARNSYS.COM KeyStone Learning Systems IS Dept. 2241 Larsen Parkway Provo , UT 84606 US 801-375-8680 Fax- 801-373-6872 Billing Contact: Clint Argyle (CA59-ORG) clinta(a)KEYLEARNSYS.COM KeyStone Learning Systems 2241 Larsen Parkway Provo, UT 84606 US 801-375-8680 Fax- 801-373-6872

22 years, 4 months

OT: Once in a Lifetime, Twice in Forever

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

Sorry, I mis-spoke, that was european dd/mm (20/02) and US mm/dd (02/20) Megan

22 years, 4 months

OT: Once in a Lifetime, Twice in Forever

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

This only happens if you happen to record your day/month in the european order mm/dd (20/02) instead of the us order dd/mm (02/20) so, for the us, it is 2002 0220 2002 which is not the same effect as you describe.. Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com | | Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg KB1FCA | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

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