test-drb February 2002

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by pat＠purdueriots.com

I just got a VAXstation 3200 today for about $15... Amazingly enough, it boots up to VMS 5.3-1 (can't log in though.) Can anyone recommend a good guide for using VMS that's either avalible at a good book store or (preferred) availble online? Specs: 8 line serial card (forgot to look at the model #), TK-50 controller (didn't grab the drive, but might do that tomorrow..), 8-plane framebuffer, 2x8M QBus memory cards, 2x760M ST-506 interface hard drives, DELQA ethernet, KA650-B cpu card, (and that's about all I think...) pics at http://purdueriots.com/imgs/vs3200-back-lores.jpg and http://purdueriots.com/imgs/vs3200-front-lores.jpg -- Pat

22 years, 10 months

new RX02 disks?

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Leffingwell [mailto:tom@sba.miami.edu] > Does anyone know of a source for new 8" floppies? I've borrowed > some software that I need to copy and give back, and in the > interests of > longevity, I'd just assume not recycle a disk that is already 20 years > old. Last time I looked, even a quick search on yahoo or google turned up a couple of "bulk media" type companies that still carry 8" disks. This was maybe two months ago. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

22 years, 10 months

Low cost Thin Film Thickness Measurement System

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> ---------- > From: Sellam Ismail > > On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, John Lawson wrote: > > > Besides, sure as shit, the day we moderate this is the day that some > > guy's uncle dies and they clean out his storage space with the last > Foonly > > in it, and the nephew can't get a message thru and it goes to the dump. > > The solution is simple. We're not moderating anything. We're just making > the list writeable by subscribers only. If non-subscribers try to post we > can bounce them back a message telling them how to properly post a > message. > > Even better, maybe we can provide a web form to submit messages to the > list? We can redirect them to that instead, then it'll be easy for them > to post that they found the first Altair that got "lost" in transit to > Popular Electronics that will be given to the first person who replies and > says they'll pay for shipping. > > We can put this up on the classiccmp website with a big sign that says > "POST MESSAGES TO THE CLASSICCMP LIST HERE". > > I'll volunteer the programming for this even. > > Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer > Festival > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > Unless I missed someone else saying it, I would suggest both methods together in the same message. --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 90581 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

22 years, 10 months

New Buy & VMS help wanted

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Julius Sridhar [mailto:vance@ikickass.org] > > Relatively common, but DEC original. Don't plug a PS/2 mouse in! :) > Would it even fit? I don't know, nor would I really want to find out. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

22 years, 10 months

New Buy & VMS help wanted

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Pat Finnegan [mailto:pat@purdueriots.com] > I also picked up its console cable and an LK-401 for it, but > didn't see > its mouse laying around. :( Anyways, the 'console cable' Relatively common, but DEC original. Don't plug a PS/2 mouse in! :) > connects to the > framebuffer and provides a modular jack (LK-401 im sure), an 8-pin > Mini-DIN (mouse?), and a single BNC connector. Does anyone > know of a sane > way to connect this to a garden variety monitor? Is it > really monochrome > as I suspect? The framebuffer cards are a M7168 and a M7169, so I > *thought* it would be 8-plane *color* graphics... but I guess > 8-plane mono > is believable. Anywho, if the TK50 remains, it'll have to be the > framebuffer that goes away when I get that pertec card.. 8-bit graphics would have a set of 3 boards. How many boards in your framebuffer setup? If you have one, it's mono. Two is -- I think -- 4 bit color. I have no idea how to connect that to a monitor, nor whether you got the right adaptor. If you have a mono board, it's easy ;) Otherwise, maybe it's a composite signal of some sort. > One last thing... on VMS 1) how do I figure out the size of the > hard-drives (like du on *nix), and 2) how do I mount a hard Try "SHOW DEV D" (In english that's "give stats on all devices beginning with D," I think) > disk without > knowing its label? The second ESDI drive doesn't get automatically > mounted when VMS boots. The /OVER=ID option will do what you want. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

22 years, 10 months

Continuation of... RE: Friday's score... [kinda long?]

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Well, here's the rest of that haul (finally!)... *** Commodore 128(64) Software/books *** ---Original s/w diskettes--- C128 CP/M System Disk - CP/M Plus Ver. 3.0 - this'll be interesting. Never actually played w/ CP/M before! C128 Tutorial Disk c= model 1571 test/demo diskette double sided 48 tpi - didn't want capital letters on this disk, apparently... Sylvia Porter's Personal Finance 128 Series The Bard's Tale - Tales Of The Unknown Vol. 1 Music Construction Set Demon Stalkers SkyFox Hacker (includes QuickDrive!) Bruce Lee (with Atari 32K RAM version on side 2!) Leader Board Leader Board World Class Ghosts 'N Goblins Castle Wolfenstein Alternate Reality - The City Alternate Reality - The Dungeon Paperback Writer 128 Dark Lord The Neverending Story Might And Magic Might And Magic II ---copies (seperated by disk)--- Dig Dug Pac Man Centipede Buck Rogers Lazer Zone Worms Grid Runner Donkey Kong Omega Race ( I used to have that cartridge!) LeMans Mike.wrm -probably one of Michael Brodt's saved Worms gNinjaames. -If so, judging by the writing, I'd say Michael is -a bit of a young'un, like me ;-) Blue Max Black Hawk Night Mission Protector II Fort Apocolypse River Raid Ninja 3720 Serpentine (?) Vacations Renaissance Shamus Omega Race Satans Hollow Boulder Dash Blueprint Wizard Of War Dig Dug Defender Colossus Chess Hellcat Ace Armageddon Wet Paint Lazarian Pooyar Pogo joe Ice Palace Sargon Sword Of Fargol Telengard Xyzzy (?) Summer Games - had it, loved it, need to find Summer Games II, - and Winter Games! Phantasie Demon Stalkers Demon Stalkers Levels C12802 (?) - Michael - Remember what this is for? Kracker Jax Vol. 7 Elite V. 4.0 - Wasn't there a Pirate's TollChest? I'm pretty - sure that's what we had with our C=64... Grand Prix Bard's Tale Character Disk Bard's Tale Dungeon Disk Copy Disk Might & Magic sides B,C, & D Might & Magic II Side B - have 3 copies of it. Not sure if they all work... Might & Magic II sides C,D,E, & F Blockout Grand Prix Dungeon Char. Disk #3 Backup Disk #2 (?) Bruce #3, #4, #5 ---books--- C= 1571 Disk Drive User's Guide C= 128 Personal Computer Introductory Guide C= 64C Personal Computer Introductory Guide C= 128 Personal Computer System Guide Quest For Clues Eye Of The Beholder rule book (copy) Castles user guide (copy) Firehawk - Thexder: The Second Contact (copy) Phantasie user guide (copy) Golf Solitare (printout) chess appendix a: complete chess games (?) Prince Of Persia user's guide (copy) The Everything Book for Commodore 64 & 128 Fall 1987 --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 > ---------- > From: David Woyciesjes > > Well, for those curious, and those whom I said I would inform, here > is a list of (100lbs!) Commodore 128 and Atari 800 goodies I got courtesy of > Michael Brodt... (This list is for my own inventory purpose, as much as your > entertainment.) > > Commodore 128 --- > - 1571 floppy drive > - Wico Command Control bat handle joystick > - TV connector/adaptor. > > Atari 800 --- > (there's " #043 " rubber-stamped on the model sticker, above the printed No. > 472297 Any ideas? Also a sticker with a handwritten "AW458710 1/28") > - Atari810 floppy drive > - 4 joysticks (one missing the 'stick'. Hey, the Commodore joystick will > work on this, won't it?)You know, it would be real easy to turn the busted > one into a gamepad, wouldn't it? > - Microbits Peripheral Products Parallel Printer interface > > And software/books/magazines are: > (game names are writen exactly as seen on the label. Maybe Michael or > someone can say what the misspellings are supposed to be...) > > *** C=128 *** > > (this list coming soon...) (see above...) > *** Atari 800 *** > > ---originals s/w diskettes--- > Shamus Case II No:4705 > Canyon Climber > The Goonies (it has C=64 version on side 2!) with hints... > Drelbs No:101210 > Alternate Reality: The Dungeon > Alternate Reality: The City > Atari 810 Master Diskette II > Atari 400/800 BASIC cartridge CXL 4002 (priced at $59.95!) > Karateka > The Incredible Laboratory > Realm Of Impossibility > Cyclod > > ---copies--- > Starwars > Frogger > Pogoman > Caverns > Actionquest (?) > > Pacman > Krazy > Defender > Galaxian > Raiders > Miscom (?) > > Speedway > Poype (misspelling on label?) > Joust > Donkey Kong > Nautilis > > Caverns 2 > Montezuma > Snokie > Sargon > Congo > Spy Hunter > Tutunkahmun > > Archon > Zepplin > > Slime > Mario Brothers > > Dig Dug > Cyclod > Spy Huntrcom (?) > Spy Sutle (?) > War Games > Decathlon > Starfighter > PitFall II > Legion > > Koalapad > Jumpman > > Centioede > Wiz Of War > Koalapad > MTV > > Zaxxon > > Zork I > > (on Cyclod disk-- > DigDug > Spyhuntrcom > Spshutle > War Games > Decathlon > StarFighter > PitFall II > Legion > > AtariWriter > > Krazy > Defender > Galaxian > Raiders > Miscom > Anticks > Centipede > > --- books --- > The Video Master's Guide To Defender > -(arcade version) > Basic Fun With Graphics The Atari Way > AD&D Eye Of The Beholder Clue Book > Free Software For your Atari > Dr. C Wacko's Miracle Guide To Designing And Programming Your Own Atari > Computer Arcade Games > Atari Basic - A Self Teaching Guide > Atari Games And Recreations > Atari Basic Quick Reference Guide > Your First Atari Program > Atari Sound And Graphics - A Self Teaching Guide > Owner's Guide for the 800 and 810 > Atari 810 Disk Drive - Introduction To he Disk Operating System > Computers For Kids - Atari Edition > AtariWriter manual > Star Raiders manual > Review - A Catalog Of Atari Learning Systems - Fall 83, Vol 1, Issue 1 > Antic - The Atari Resource - Feb 1988 Vol 6, #10 > Analog Computing - Sep 1987, #57 > Atari Explorer - Feb 1985 > Atari Connection - The Home Computer Magazine - Summer 1983 > Atari Connection - Winter 1984 > Atari Connection - Spring 1984 > Atari Connection - Summer 1984 > APX - Atari Program Exchange Product Catalog - Summer 1983 > APX - Fall 1983 > Home Applications And Games For The Atari Home Computers > Atari 400/800 Basic Reference Manual > Atari 400/800 Disk Operating System II Reference Manual

22 years, 10 months

S/36Doc (skating on thin ice)

by aek＠spies.com

>While the offer to scan them was certainly noble, I really wouildn't expect >anyone to actually do it. We're talking about perhaps 10,000 pages of >documents here! Assuming they're loose sheets, it can be done in a few days. I scanned 15000 pages of HP 2100 docs last week in less than a week working a few hours per day. Scan cleanup and pdf conversion is the bottleneck right now.

22 years, 10 months

HP 9000 800/G40 battery?/cable

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Brown [mailto:bbrown@harper.cc.il.us] > The batteries are supposed to keep ram intact for a SHORT duration > power failure...20 seconds might be longer than they would > last..especaially since > they are probably 10 year old batteries. > It's definetly NOT a full ups system. Ok, when I turn the system on afterwards, all lights -- including the battery charging light -- flash. I've assumed that this is just a test. In that case, shouldn't the batteries need recharged, and the battery light stay on for a while after this? It does not. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

22 years, 10 months

Mac 512k

by casper＠Mac.com

I got an old mac 512k, and when i try to turn it on, a dead man appears and a number is show. (The number changes every time I turn it on.) Can it be because there is no keyboard?

22 years, 10 months

Packrat genome project questions

by mhstein＠canada.com

First computer used: IBM 604 & assorted peripherals (If that counts). If not, then a Burroughs B260. First one owned: Original blue-trimmed 8K 2001 PET, w/ built-in tape & chiclet keys; still have it, with case/keyboard/memory upgrade. mike

22 years, 10 months

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test-drb February 2002