test-drb February 2002

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by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Hellige [mailto:jhellige@earthlink.net] > Certainly not within the size range that Sridhar was > referring to but my MVII had dual Maxtor XT-8380E (380MB, ESDI, > 5-1/4" FH) drives installed when I got it. One has since been pulled > to act as a spare and replaced in the BA23 with a TK50. Speaking of which, does anyone know where to get controllers and/or drives to use ESDI on QBus based VAXen? Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

22 years, 10 months

Mac 512k

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>I got an old mac 512k, and when i try to turn it on, a dead man appears >and a number is show. >(The number changes every time I turn it on.) >Can it be because there is no keyboard? Mac's will boot just fine without a keyboard. What you are seeing is a "Sad Mac". What are the numbers that are shown? I know they change, but if you can give us an example of a few (and be accurate), then we might be able to help. Those numbers are telling you what is wrong. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 10 months

uVAXs in 1987 (Was Re: Bell & Howell Apple II update)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 1, Julius Sridhar wrote: > > > does anyone have ideas on what other multi-user timesharing > > > systems were available in {87} at about ... $50K to $100K)? > > > > How about... any Unix system (Sun, HP, Apollo, others)? > > Can any of these do billed processor/I/O time? Most Unix implementations have had resource accounting for years. It's not quite as extensive as mainframe stuff or something like VMS, but it works well and is quite usable. So, yes. :) -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

22 years, 10 months

Mac 512k

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Ethan Dicks [mailto:erd_6502@yahoo.com] > If you have just a 512K, remember that you need an OS on a 400K > floppy or it won't work. If it's a 512Ke, I'm pretty sure it won't > boot 0.97 anymore. Are you sure? I booted .97 on a Mac Plus. (I still have the machine, and the 400k disk I used.) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

22 years, 10 months

Large ESDI Disks

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 1, Russ Blakeman wrote: > I'm curious too, haven't seen an ESDI bigger than 120mb personally. I have some 1.2GB Fujitsu ESDI drives...those suckers are quick, too. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

22 years, 10 months

Bell & Howell Apple II update

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

> Monitors of the time, at least of the NTSC-compatible > type, were typically equipped with PL-259 connectors > on the rear. Not true, at least in the video industry. >By the time consumer video equipment became popular, > the PL-259, which was also common in the '70's for other > 75-ohm applications e.g. antennas and the like, had been > replaced by the 'F' types in video hookups, since those > were MUCH cheaper. The PL-259 was in use primarily for carrying VHF and UHF signals, not baseband video. The PL259/SO259 was originally designed in the 1940's to carry the then high resolution 3.5MHz 405 line baseband video signal. They remained as the connector of choice, at least in europe, until the 70's when the more compact BNC took over. Patch pannels were, and are still, mostly Musa as they are easy to (un)plug even when packed closely. As I said, I may be sorry to have chimed in on this nearly off-topic conversation, but when I see blanket statements being made that are obviously incorrect I have a hard time remaining silent. Ah, ok. 8^)= Lee. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- This email is intended only for the above named addressee(s). The information contained in this email may contain information which is confidential. The views expressed in this email are personal to the sender and do not in any way reflect the views of the company. If you have received this email and you are not a named addressee please delete it from your system and contact Merlin Communications International IT Department on +44 20 7344 5888. ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

22 years, 10 months

New Buy & VMS help wanted

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 1, Julius Sridhar wrote: > > 8-bit graphics would have a set of 3 boards. How many boards in your > > framebuffer setup? If you have one, it's mono. Two is -- I think -- > > 4 bit color. > > I believe what he is describing, is mono. Grayscale...VCB02. The mono framebuffer is a VCB01, M7602. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

22 years, 10 months

New Buy & VMS help wanted

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 1, Pat Finnegan wrote: > I also picked up its console cable and an LK-401 for it, but didn't see > its mouse laying around. :( Anyways, the 'console cable' connects to the > framebuffer and provides a modular jack (LK-401 im sure), an 8-pin > Mini-DIN (mouse?), and a single BNC connector. Does anyone know of a sane > way to connect this to a garden variety monitor? Is it really monochrome > as I suspect? The framebuffer cards are a M7168 and a M7169, so I > *thought* it would be 8-plane *color* graphics... but I guess 8-plane mono > is believable. Anywho, if the TK50 remains, it'll have to be the > framebuffer that goes away when I get that pertec card.. That frame buffer is a VCB02, or QDSS. M7169 is the smarts, and M7168 is a memory board. You can have one or two M7168s, each gives you four bitplanes...so you have a 4-plane framebuffer. This can drive a color monitor for 16 colors or a mono monitor for 16 levels of gray. Which monitor you can drive depends on the cable. From your description, you have a grayscale cable, used with, for example, a VR160 monitor. A color cable will have three BNCs. I've found the grayscale cables to be somewhat rare. I wouldn't bother trying to drive a VGA monitor with this. Proper DEC monitors are relatively easy to find, and I find them to be of much higher quality than all but the most expensive PeeCee monitors. > One last thing... on VMS 1) how do I figure out the size of the > hard-drives (like du on *nix), and 2) how do I mount a hard disk without > knowing its label? The second ESDI drive doesn't get automatically > mounted when VMS boots. 1) $ show dev du/full 2) $ mount du?/override=id (where "?" is the unit number) -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

22 years, 10 months

cheap 16MB 30-pin RAM on eBay

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 1, Tothwolf wrote: > > Some reseller on eBay evidently brought out his stash - he's selling > > several hundred SIMMs in lots of 4. He seems to have a lot of > > complaints - 197 negatives of 4900 feedbacks - but $15 for 64M ain't a > > bad gamble.... > > Of course, 4900 feedbacks is alot too. From the picture, the simms look > like 70ns parity ram, but since the picture is off center, and he states > they are 80ns, the only way to know for sure would be to ask him. 70ns > parity modules could be used in many computers besides a Mac, but 60ns > would be much better for mid to late 486 and early pentium PC type boards. These are also quite useful (I'd actually say *more* useful) for use in Sun4/600 systems. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

22 years, 10 months

S/370 docs (was: Re: IBM big iron.)

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Now why can't anyone ever say "Hey, I have 4381, 3380, and 3880 docs to get rid of... Want em?" It sucks owning what is essentially 3000+ pounds worth of paperweights. Will J _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

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test-drb February 2002