You do know that Hal Chamberlin (who came up with that mini-mini)
was THE MAN as far as PET music was concerned in those days?
Maybe he's got something to contribute to posterity when he gets
back from Korea.
mike
-------------------------Original Message--------------------
From: Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com>
Subject: Musicians (and computer music) (was RE: Trailing-edge compute farm seeks gainful employment)
ObClassic: Does anyone have any software for making music on the PET
with *other* than CB2 sound? I had a buddy with a clip-on user port
music card - it was an 8-bit D-to-A like a Disney Sound Source. The
PET shoved bytes out the user port and they appoximated music. I can't
remember what it was called.
Chris,
Ahem.....
Over here, on this side of the Atlantic, they're called tubes.
: )
Just ribbing you....
- Matt
>Yes, I think there was an ENIAC on a chip project that was successful. I
>don't know much about it though.
>
> -- or did you mean in original scale, with valves? :)
>
>Regards,
>
>Chris
>
>
>Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
>Amdocs - Champaign, IL
>
>/usr/bin/perl -e '
>print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
>'
>
Matthew Sell
Programmer
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Many thanks for this tagline to a fellow RGVAC'er...
Do I gather from previous discussions that it's a
problem reading an Apple II floppy disk on a PC?
I'm about to get rid of my last Apple II clone (No,
Ernest, I haven't forgotten you) but there are some
Basic programs on Apple diskettes that I might want to
port to GW-Basic some day. Trouble is, the Apple
has no parallel or serial cards and I don't feel like
copying them off the screen by hand.
I think with a little software I could transfer it
to one of my PETs via the cassette port, and from there
it would be trivial to get to a PC, but I'm hoping
there's an easier way.
I have a CompatiCard I and Uniform, and I still have
the T300 that no one wanted which can do 96TPI 640K
MS-DOS diskettes as well as the usual MS-DOS 5.25
formats, if that's of any use.
Any ideas?
mike
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk]
> Sent: 09 January 2002 21:18
> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: Compukit UK101
>
> Sounds good so far. IIRC the UK101 will display 'garbage' at
> switch-on.
> Just the random contents of the video memory (the video
> display circuitry
> doesn't need to be configured by software, so it'll display
> this even if
> the CPU isn't doing anything).
<excellent troubleshooting snippage>
Thanks Tony! Star man once again :) I'll be annoyed if I've been defeated by
a caps lock key!
I know what I'm doing tonight now.......
--
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w2: www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk (Online Computer Museum)
CBM -> PC isn't the problem; I've got a couple of CmC ADA IEEE-> S/P
converters as well. The Cassette to Serial adapter sounds neat though.
Getting from the Apple to the CBM is the problem; I think I've got software
somewhere that'll connect the two cassette ports, but it'd take till next
Xmas/Kwanzaa/Chanukah to find it.
Was just hoping there was a quick & easy direct way, but assuming Ernest is
going to take the clone, I'm going to include it and ask him to transfer the file(s) &
email them back to me since he does have serial capability.
Thanks anyway, guys. Always interesting and often very informative & helpful.
mike
------------------------Original Message----------------------
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 12:58:42 -0800 (PST)
From: Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Apple disk -> MSDOS
- --- "Fred Cisin (XenoSoft)" <cisin(a)xenosoft.com> wrote:
> > I think with a little software I could transfer it
> > to one of my PETs via the cassette port, and from there
> > it would be trivial to get to a PC...
>
> Really? The PC can't do PET disks, either. But you MIGHT be able to
> interface one of the aftermarket IEEE488 drives to the Pet with some
> trivial hardware, and then interface it to the PC, and just write a file
> system for it.
An XE1541 cable is an easy enough item to build. If you have a 4040
or 2031 drive on your PET, you could hook a 1541 to the PC, the IEEE
drive to the PET and sneaker-net stuff over.
Marko Makela has a cool device that's about to hit the world - a cassette
port dongle for all CBM machines that speaks to a "modern" machine over
serial - you save to "cassette" from your PET, B500, C64, VIC-20, whatever,
and run a virtual server on a serial line on a modern machine to scoop
up the data. No funny software required on the CBM side. He has a
prototype and pictures, but it's not quite available yet.
I know there have been some projects to emulate an IEEE port from a PeeCee
parallel port - enough to drive a 4040 floppy unit. If the software were
there, it'd be easy enough to turn the PeeCee into a virtual disk drive.
I think you could find the stuff already done. I don't think you'd have
to roll your own code to do this.
My X1541 cable also has a 6-pin C= cassette port on it. I have read
many PET tapes directly from DOS with a real C2N tape recorder. It's
not as reliable as floppies (especially if there's a head alignment
problem), but it does work. Slow as molasses in January, though.
Personally, the 170K floppy shuffle is the easiest way with the most
common hardware. It does require that you have a couple of Commodore
devices, but they aren't uncommon. Serial ports on PETs *are* (but I
have a couple of IEEE<->RS-232 boxes from "TNW" and one ROM socket
ACIA board. Still doesn't make them "common" though).
- -ethan
Okay, I've decided that I'm not going to fool around with this
PS/2 any more, as it really isn't the type of thing I collect.
Is anyone interested in it for $20+shipping?
--
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dittman(a)dittman.net
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In a message dated 09/01/02 edick(a)idcomm.com writes:
> Well ... it must be asleep. I wasn't even able to find a reference to it,
> though, so something's amiss.
>
> Dick
>
Type 2430 into the search engine under Model No.
I know their search engine leaves a bit to be desired but I used them to
buy an HP service manual. The best I could get in Europe was a photocopy
AND it cost more than the originals from ManualsPlus.
Try http://www.big-list.com/usedmanu.html. It's a comprehesive list of
service manual dealers.
Good Luck
Chris
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew Sell [mailto:msell@ontimesupport.com]
> Has anyone ever attempted to recreate all or part of the
> ENIAC? Maybe as
> part of a CS project or museum?
Yes, I think there was an ENIAC on a chip project that was successful. I don't know much about it though.
-- or did you mean in original scale, with valves? :)
Regards,
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
On January 10, Matthew Sell wrote:
> Has anyone ever attempted to recreate all or part of the ENIAC? Maybe as
> part of a CS project or museum?
>
> Just curious.....
I thought this was neat..These folks implemented the ENIAC
architecture on a chip some time ago:
http://www.ee.upenn.edu/~jan/eniacproj.html
-Dave
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