I just picked up a 3com 3station for a few $$ at university salvage today.
It seems to be a rather neat little system. Inside it has a header (J9)
that appears to be a floppy disk connector (34pin header). Does anyone
know anymore about these things or have software for it (it'd be nice to
use it as an Xterminal, but who knows if that'll ever work...)
Thanks much!
-- Pat
> From: "Merle K. Peirce" <at258(a)osfn.org>
> Well we might very well be interested in a ZS-1.
Do you have some idea of how and when? As I mentioned before, I would need to have a commitment fairly quick to keep the machines intact.
Later,
Jon
Jon Auringer
auringer(a)tds.net
Ben,
I wish we had it all today too. I'm sure we would have
been much further along if they hadn't cut the budget
back so severely after the apollo program wrapped up. But
the shuttle is a good working vehicle. Launches of the
shuttle are so common now, you only hear a blurb on it
on the news. In addition to flying Glenn back into space,
I wish they would take Yeager up one time too, just to
thank him for the contributions he also made.
There are some small private outfits trying to develop
their own programs too, either in CA or somewhere out
west. But it still takes a lot of money, just not as
much as NASA requires. On CNN this morn, I believe there
was mention of a launch, but the vehicle was still a
$500,000 vehicle. I bet if you searched google, you
might find one of the private projects, that you might
even be able to contribute help to.
One concern I have though is that until there is actually
a good destination to go to ( where there is air and water,
even if it has to be extracted ) there may not be enough
of a reason to make it commercially viable. Short hops to
get halfway around the globe in record time would be good,
but true deep space travel may need a destination that will
support life. I liken it to sailing. Some people like to
take their boat out just to go sailing, but I kind of always
wanted a destination to sail to. Sailing halfway out into the
Atlantic, just to see it, and coming back just never excited
me. If Columbus hadn't found the "New World" how many would
have continued to voyage out across the atlantic.
Ian
Ben Franchuk wrote:
>
> Ian Koller wrote:
> >
> > Hello Ben,
> >
> > > I say dump this simulation idea and build the real thing!
> >
> > I doubt you'd want to, or be able to, commit the real level
> > of resources necessary for this.
>
> It is not a easy project, and definitely a team effort, but you
> still need one man/woman with a vision. Right now space travel
> in same field as computers in the early 1960's. They still would
> be mainframes on punch cards today had not the PDP-1 and PDP-5
> and PDP-11 been designed by a small team of people.
>
> > That's not the sole motivation there. I do not doubt that
> > large aerospace lobbying has some influence on project
> > funding, but the real reason their projects cost what they
> > do is the fact that they are held to very high standards.
> > People's lives and the taxpayers' money are at stake,
> > accountability to the US government and the american taxpayers,
> > etc. won't allow them to work like hobbyists or shadetree mechanics.
>
> Ha-Ha -- accountable that is funny. Too much red tape and kickbacks
> I bet to make it easy for a team of people to develop something.
> A hobbyist is somebody who does something with out getting paid
> for it. Talent is not == money. Since I don't have talent in that
> field of rocket hardware I may not design a warp drive :) but still
> could help out in other fields. The point is nobody wants to go into
> space if they have to do a little work.
>
>
> >
> > > a simple-reusable space craft
> >
> > I doubt that such a thing would ever really be "simple"
> >
> > I really hope that you were actually joking. This analysis
> > of the requirements is very innocent in it's point of view.
> > Much like a child's view of the world. And note that I'm
> > not calling you childish, just that simplistic statement
> > of the requirements for projects of this scope.
>
> NO joke!
> A space craft is hard to design because so many variables
> change exponentially. A 5% factor could cross a threshold
> wipe out this whole design. Simple is a relative term here.
> I like a simple two stage space-plane rail launched with
> only the 1st stage manned ( single pilot ). The second stage
> would fly to dock with a low orbit space station. Re-entry
> still needs more thought but one idea is dismantling the 2nd stage
> and having a return shuttle take down the peaces.
>
>
>
> > > putting ORDANARY people in space!
> >
> > This will happen someday soon though. Maybe another 30 to
> > 50 years?
>
> I am 42 come spring. I can't wait another 30 years. :)
> One view I have is since space travel is 10x harder than
> flying I expect payloads to be 1/10 of the what flying is.
> This is in the scale of 500 to 2000 LBS payloads.
> You have NASA's plan -- big projects done by a army of
> people -- my plan ordinary people on average wages bootstrapping
> themselves into space. Think small you can build big projects.
> Think big and you get small projects like NASA seems to be doing.
>
>
> > Seeing the work Henk has done, I'm sure that he has invested
> > a lot of time, and a fair amount of money, just in creating
> > such a well done simulator project of that scope.
>
> True. But then if he decides he wants to build a console
> for space craft to say MARS could he do it with out political
> problems.
> --
> Ben Franchuk - Dawn * 12/24 bit cpu *
> www.jetnet.ab.ca/users/bfranchuk/index.html
>First, I've never found a female DIN-8
>port for sale (and not for lack of looking)
Not that it will matter, as you don't plan to build it anyway... but for
reference... MCM Electronics (www.mcm-electronics.com) sells Female Din-8
(although, isn't that size really a mini-din?). Mini-Din, Din, either
way, I know they sell them, as I bought a few a while back to replace the
broken off serial ports on a PowerBook 160. The ones I bought were solder
type, and meant to be used with a cable (so now my Powerbook has two
short cables sticking out the back for the serial ports... no matter, it
sits on a shelf acting as a nat router and backup mail server these days)
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
Even though their Optiplex PCs seem to be standard ATX form factor, their
power supply does not meet the standard. Putting in a generic ATX power
supply will not work. Something about the wiring being changed slightly on
the power plug. perhaps someone else has details about that.
--
! From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk]
!
!
! >
! > At the bare minimum, I want real lens interchangeability.
! > I'd prefer a
! > Leica screw mount (just so I can use what I have), but
! > realistically, a C
! > mount (or even D) would be more practical. But ANY MOUNT!
!
! I wonder how many people on this list actually know what C
! and D mounts
! are, and what they were first associated with.
Not me really, but it does have to do with cameras...
! I prefer screw-in lens mounts to bayonet. For one very good reason. I
! don't need speed of lens changing, but I do like to make my
! own add-ons.
! I can cut the screw threads in the lathe without problems (I
! made my own
! C mount lens and body caps when I discovered that the
! 'official' ones had
! to be ordered from Switzerland and were over \pounds 35.00
! each). Making
! a bayonet mount is a lot harder.
Don't they have adapters? Or can you cut something down and slap it on the
lathe to make an adaptor?
--- David A Woyciesjes
--- C & IS Support Specialist
--- Yale University Press
--- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu
--- (203) 432-0953
--- ICQ # - 905818
Hi,
Some of you might remember that I uploaded version 5.4 of the Central Point
Deluxe Option Board software a while ago.
I recently received another Option Board, which came with a slightly earlier
version of the software, as well as Copy II PC 6.0. None of the disks seem to
have been written to since new.
Both Option Board software versions are 5.4 according to the disk labels and
READ.ME files. The disks I uploaded a while ago contain version 5.5 of
MCP.EXE, compared with 5.4 for the version I just uploaded (see URL below). So
these earlier disks may not be of much interest.
Copy II PC 6.0 is a program for backing up copy-protected PC disks. Dated
1990, it probably doesn't handle protected high density disks (neither does
the Deluxe Option Board software). It might work better in conjunction with a
Deluxe Option Board card; I have not tested that. Anyway, I have uploaded disk
images of this too.
http://www.btinternet.com/~mark_k/Deluxe_Option_Board/
Instructions: download files and decompress using gzip. Use your favourite
disk-image-writing program to write the disk images to floppy disks. (For
example IBM's LOADDSKF for MS-DOS, WinImage for Windows, dd under UNIX-like
OSes.)
-- Mark
I have a couple of Olympus OM-1's that I use (vintage 1975, so they meet the
10-year rule). If the battery ever goes bad, the camera is still fully
functional (except no built-in light meter). I can always use the f:16 rule
in sunlight (exposure = f:16 at 1/[the ASA film speed]; e.g., f:16 @ 1/125
sec for ASA 100 film) or guess the exposure in other conditions.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 1:56 PM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: quest for pictures
<snip>
I personnaly prefer old, mechanical cameras. I can understand them, I can
fix them (as you might have guessed by now, I like tinkering with _all_
types of machinery). Actually, I probably prefer fixing cameras to taking
photographs.
<snip>
Electronically controlled film cammeras are just not eccentric enough to
be interesting :-)
-tony
Chris,
I probably should have mentioned that, huh? : )
I'm in Texas. We've got plenty of valves here, but they all have oil in
them......
Vacuum tubes. That's what I meant to say. No, really, I did!!!
- Matt
At 03:16 PM 1/10/2002 -0600, you wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matthew Sell [mailto:msell@ontimesupport.com]
>
> > Over here, on this side of the Atlantic, they're called tubes.
>
>What side of the Atlantic is that? I'm in mid-Illinois. ;)
>
>Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
>Amdocs - Champaign, IL
>
>/usr/bin/perl -e '
>print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
>'
>
Matthew Sell
Programmer
On Time Support, Inc.
www.ontimesupport.com
(281) 296-6066
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew Sell [mailto:msell@ontimesupport.com]
> Over here, on this side of the Atlantic, they're called tubes.
What side of the Atlantic is that? I'm in mid-Illinois. ;)
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
