test-drb January 2002

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Available: GXT500 video card from RS/6000

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

I've got a GXT500 video card, pulled (or, will be soon) from an IBM RS/6000 42T for sale or trade. Preferrably trade for more RAM for this machine (it currently has 128meg). Mail me if interested - I dont need the card, as I'm going to run the machine headless. Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

22 years, 11 months

Looking for Software/Documentation for a Definicon 68020 board (and / or another Definicon baord)

by Bernd.Kopriva＠t-online.de

Hi, some months ago, i got a Definicon 68020 co-processor board without any software and documentation. Paul Santa-Maria send me some software, but i did not manage to get the board working ... ... maybe the software was not the correct one or the board is defect. As i'm really interested in getting the board running, i'm asking again for any software / documentation. Maybe someone can offer me another board (i'm especially interested in the NS32032 board as well) at a reasonable price. Thanks Bernd Bernd Kopriva Phone: ++49-7195-179452 Weilerstr. 24 E-Mail: bernd(a)kopriva.de D-71397 Leutenbach Germany

22 years, 11 months

Looking for Software/Documentation for a Definicon 68020 board (and / or another Definicon baord)

by Bernd.Kopriva＠t-online.de

22 years, 11 months

Ugly Computers (Was: RE: Appropritate comic strip....)

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>maybe the anti-NeXT. The "Before"? >I think it's a moderately ugly design, but I asked my employer to get >me one as I'm curious (though I'm not curious enough to get one for >home). They're happy to oblige, so I'll get a chance to see how durably >the critter is constructed. It does seem like it'd be likely to get >broken. I don't think it will be any more prone to breakage than any other LCD display. The base should be just as durable as any other computer, and the swing arm should be no less fragile than the thousands of lamps that have a similar arm on them. If anything, I would think it is MORE durable than many computers, being that apple has done a good job making very durable iBooks. BUT... like all LCD display's, that portion will be prone to cracking if abused. That shouldn't be much of a problem for the standard home user, but for the K-12 market... I have never thought an LCD display (of any kind, from any maker) was a smart idea. Good old heavy glass CRTs take a much better licking than LCD could ever hope to (in testing, it took me a number of swings with the base of a rolling chair to break thru the glass of a VGA monitor, but my laptop LCD cracked with only mild weight placed on it when I stepped on it) In the long run, it is probably unlikely that too many people from this list will "get it" with the new iMac. The reason being is, the new design is going after the market of people that want a computer to fit around their life style. So they are trying to go after the "its furniture" market. The nature of most of the people on THIS list are ones that like a computer to BE a computer... a nice traditional, boxy, blinking light, noisy COMPUTER. Apple has been moving farther and farther away from that kind of market. This list is full of people who's life works around the computer, and apple wants the market where the computer works around life. I mean really, the target market for the new iMac is certainly not a group of people that tend to rent storage garages just to store their extra PDPs (You aren't going to get a new iMac user group where the people discuss staying warm in their storage shed by sitting on top of a mini while writing code on an old portable and its 5" screen!) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 11 months

Atari games in limestone cavern

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 1/11/2002 9:47:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, rhblakeman(a)kih.net writes: << When I got rid of the last of my 2600/7800 carts I sold 25 of them for 10 bucks - we were totally bored with them after playing for many years. It's all in how bad the seller wants to get rid of them. >> depends. carts like combat and football and all those boring atari ones are pennies a dozen. the better ones from activision are more of course, river raid was the best. now, where did i put my atari 2600 power supply..... -- Antique Computer Virtual Museum www.nothingtodo.org

22 years, 11 months

Continuing PDP11 saga

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 9, 18:19, Tom Leffingwell wrote: > > I think I finally get the picture on the addressing...However, > that raises two more questions. If my program is trying to talk to a > 22-bit address, and I have 18-bit addressing, will it not work, or will it > be converted? It will be converted. When the CPU is running a program, it only uses 16-bit addresses in the program. The MMU treats anything above 160000 as an access to the I/O page, and remaps it. > Also, if my backplane becomes 22-bit (by replacing it or > adding the jumpers for the other 4 bits) does everything automagically > change to 22-bit, or do you change a jumper on the M8186, or on the MSV11, > or both? It automagically works, except for a very few cases (and I can't even think of an example at the moment). The reason is that most I/O devices actually decode a signal called BBS7 (Bus Bank Select 7) instead of the highest address bits. The signal gets its name from the fact that the original LSI-11 used 16-bit addressing, and bank 7 was the I/O page. It's still only activated for I/O page access, regardless of whether your processor uses 16- 18- or 22-bit addressing. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

22 years, 11 months

OT: Hate to belabour the point...

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 11, Sellam Ismail wrote: > ...but today's San Jose Mercury News has a very timely article on how > Dell's customer support sucks big elephant testicles. Are there such things as *small* elephant testicles? -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

22 years, 11 months

Atari games in limestone cavern

by witchy＠binarydinosaurs.co.uk

Odd subject I know, but sometime last year there was a story of a guy in California (ish) who had 2 million Atari 2600/7800 games in a cavern somewhere and he was selling them for $2 a pop..... Anyone got a link to him? also, anyone got a spare boxed Magnavox Oddysey they'd like to pass on to a UK computer museum? :) I'm talking money here....though donations are always welcome! -- witchy/adrian www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the online computer museum www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - monthly gothic shenanigans Linux Powered!

22 years, 11 months

Ugly Computers (Was: RE: Appropritate comic strip....)

by vaxzilla＠jarai.org

On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > It's looking pretty certain that the Twentieth > Anniversary Mac will be youngest Macintosh that > will *ever* be in my collection... > > Lampintosh? > > Easily-Broken-In-Two-In-Tosh? > > Smackintosh? (what I want to do to it) Well, first we had MacOS X, the revamp of NeXTstep. Then we had the G4 Cube, an obvious though modernized callback to the NeXT Cube design. Now it's like they've tried to create something that's entirely non-NeXT, at least asthetically. Basing the design on a white sphere places it completely opposite the black cube of the NeXT. So I'd call it the notaNeXTintosh, or maybe the anti-NeXT. I think it's a moderately ugly design, but I asked my employer to get me one as I'm curious (though I'm not curious enough to get one for home). They're happy to oblige, so I'll get a chance to see how durably the critter is constructed. It does seem like it'd be likely to get broken. -brian.

22 years, 11 months

VAX 11/780s - Masscomp - Valid equipment available

by auringer＠tds.net

Mark Tapley wrote: > You are probably way ahead of me on this, but tapes of the O/S's and other > hardware, where available, might be well appreciated by the machines' > ultimate owners - or owners of similar machines. All of the system software is being preserved. The tapes I was referring to are the hundreds of backup tapes that line the walls of the computer rooms (and elsewhere!). > Good luck and thanks very much for all your work! Thanks for the thought. It has been a bit of a headache. > Are there any NeXT or Digital Group (not DEC) or Balcones Microcomputer > systems there? Long shots, I know, but thought I'd ask. None of those, sorry. Later, Jon

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test-drb January 2002