test-drb January 2002

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by Innfogra＠aol.com

I have seen these before. We got Nuclear Data stuff from Hanford. It is used as a computer that ran process instrumentation in the Nuclear Power Plant/Research s. Usually they were 11/03s, sometimes upgraded to 11/23s, in a small Qbus cage. Often there are a lot of custom cards for the process instrumentation. What cards are in it, or did you mention and I just miss it. Things to look for are EPROM cards. Does it boot? What is the floppy drive hooked up to? Often there are custom display cards. Sometimes A/D & D/A cards. Did you check to see if it glows in the dark? :-) Any idea where it originally came from? Paxton Astoria, OR

23 years, 1 month

Packrat genome project questions

by blacklord＠telstra.com

> > How many people on this list still have their 1st computer? > second? third? > > every computer you ever used/owned? Let's see .... my original 8k PET 2001 from 1978 that my parents bought for me, my father's Exidy Sorceror that he bought in 1979, my VIC20 from 1980, my C64 from '82 then every machine I've bought or built since.... currently occupying three rooms & still growing :-) cheers, Lance (Oh yeah, the PET is still used on a nearly daily basis.....) ---------------- Powered by telstra.com

23 years, 1 month

Computer Museum of America on Tuesday night's PBS NOVA (fwd)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 31, 18:07, Julius Sridhar wrote: > On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, Doc wrote: > > > > Will there be anybody able to tape it and then convert it to an AVI file > > > or mpg > > > for download? > > > > Pretty please, NO avi. I'd hate to have to install Windows. > > I view AVI's on UNIX all the time. Maybe, but which codec? I can only view about the half the ones I come across. Some codecs only exist for Windows. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

23 years, 1 month

so, can you run UNIX on a PDP11/03 or not?

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

Yep, I have and many did. It was there to provide the migration path for those people that had outgrown PDP-11/70s but also needed the platform to put up new code on. Early VMS would run RSX-11 apps directly and could also support RT-11 and RSTS. Allison -----Original Message----- From: Gunther Schadow <gunther(a)aurora.regenstrief.org> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Thursday, January 31, 2002 5:16 PM Subject: so, can you run UNIX on a PDP11/03 or not? >I hear mixed messages about that. Is there someone who knows, >and not only if any, but also which version of UNIX would run? >I want to give it a shot. > >Also, has anybody ever run a VAX11 in PDP mode for real? Sound >pretty wild to me to spend so much money only to not use the >virtual memory. > >cheers, >-Gunther > >-- >Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org >Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care >Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine >tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org > >

23 years, 1 month

so, can you run UNIX on a PDP11/03 or not?

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

Actually VMS was ok but VMS as everyone knows is also chock full of utilities and tools... many of which would remain as base PDP11 code (coded as RSX-11 compatable) for a while. I think V2.mumble . Some would be recoded as VAX native and live another version. Allison -----Original Message----- From: William Donzelli <aw288(a)osfn.org> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Thursday, January 31, 2002 5:16 PM Subject: Re: so, can you run UNIX on a PDP11/03 or not? >> The only use of the vax11's pdp11 compatibility mode that I've ever >> heard of was to run RSX-11 binaries under VMS. > >I think VMS 1.0 used it because it was not really ready to ship (what a >suprise). The RCS VAXgeek said that some old PDP-11 code was >kludged in with a big hammer (and the compatibilty mode) to get the early >VMS to work. The kludges were dropped shortly afterwards. > >William Donzelli >aw288(a)osfn.org

23 years, 1 month

so, can you run UNIX on a PDP11/03 or not?

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

Yes, I used to ru RT-11 on a 11/780 so I could have a few of my favorte apps that werent on the VAX. That was a long time ago. Allison -----Original Message----- From: John Allain <allain(a)panix.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Thursday, January 31, 2002 5:15 PM Subject: Re: so, can you run UNIX on a PDP11/03 or not? >> has anybody ever run a VAX11 in PDP mode for real? > >I did, but not seriously. >On an 11/780 for one, you could say "MCR PDP" IIRC >and do some basic operations. I think it was intended >to help people do porting without having to have the >other machine present. > >John A. > > >

23 years, 1 month

Nuclear Data 66?

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Andreas Freiherr <Andreas.Freiherr(a)Vishay.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Thursday, January 31, 2002 5:15 PM Subject: Re: Nuclear Data 66? > Strangely enough... it's the VT103! Had optional dual drive TU58 mounted > under monitor (got one, gotta replace the rollers with tygon tubing). I think I also saw one a _couple_ of years ago that had dual floppy drives on top of the VT1xx box. Is it possible that there was something like a VT180? Or was it the "Robin"? - Too long ago. "Dave ... my mind is going ... I can feel it ..." If it had two TU58 then it was a PDP-11 cousin called the PDT11/130. FYI if it is the driver for RT11 is PD as the tape and serial ports are handled very differently than the generic -11 I/O. Same for the PDT11/150 that had two RX01 drives. Allison

23 years, 1 month

Docs for Sonic IIci/SE30 Ethernet?

by mythtech＠Mac.com

> The ethernet card *is* the right-angle adapter. I swear. There's no >logic on the daughtercard. > Crud, I may have to jerk it out & take a picture. > And I never heard of The Diskless Mac, but it sounds cool. Interesting. I haven't seen one of those, I've always seen them as a "IIsi & SE/30" ethernet card, and then a seperate IIsi adaptor card (with or without an FPU). I just pulled out my files of The Diskless Mac. It is by Sonic. I originally found the stuff just sitting on their FTP site (so naturally I downloaded it). I've never used it, but from what I can tell of it works with Sonic ethernet cards, and a BootP server (they even include a mini unix BootP server), and lets you use create a "Boot Image" that gets stored on the ethernet card. So they have a sort of Boot RAM instead of a Boot ROM. Their readme does make a mention of NOT installing the "secure boot extension" without having the TDM 2.0 Boot ROMs installed. So either the roms are flashable, or maybe can be pulled and replaced, or possibly are an optional part entirely (meaning that socket might very well be for the boot rom, and not an FPU). I tried running the TDM admin on this machine (PM 6500 with stock Apple 10b-T card), and it didn't recognize it as a valid machine to admin. It would be interesting to see if it would recognize your card, since you have a sonic card. (maybe once I get my PB 1400 running again, I will try it on my Sonic PCMCIA ethernet card) You can still download the software from their FTP site (I just checked). Go to ftp.sonicsys.com/pub/software/Unsupported/The_Diskless_Mac. They also have the latest version of their Ethernet drivers there (v7.8), so maybe that has a newer version of a diagnostic tool to see if your card is still good. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 1 month

Docs for Sonic IIci/SE30 Ethernet?

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>> I'm not willing to go for the "hosed" option yet. And no, of course >> there's no part number anywhere. It has a right-angle PDS pass-through, >> what looks like an empty FPU socket, and AUI & BNC connectors. > >How many pins is the empty socket? It might be for a boot rom, but if it's >a 40 pin dip, it could have been where the card's cpu went. What kind of >large chips are on the board? The empty "fpu looking" socket might very well have been for an FPU. most of the IIsi PDS right angle adaptors (commonly found with IIsi ethernet cards), had an FPU option, since the IIsi didn't have one natively. The adaptors were all the same, it was just a matter of if the vendor filled the socket. But that would only be the case if this empty socket is on the right angle adaptor, and not on the ethernet card itself. If it is on the enet card, then yeah, it might be a boot rom... but did the early mac's support boot roms? I don't think they did. I base this on the "oh wow" factor of the Netboot that arrived with OS 9/Original OS X Server, and on the old "TDM - The Diskless Mac" setup by Sonic(?). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 1 month

VT131 needs keyboard help

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 31, 13:14, Tothwolf wrote: > On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, David Woyciesjes wrote: > > How about using something like a (photograph) slide scanner type > > setup? I would say just try it. > Well, the problem is that a scanner does not have enough resolution to > scan the reduced microfiche images. The only way to get a good print is to > optically enlarge them (which is part of the printing process), then scan > the enlarged version. I don't think David meant the sort of backlight arrangement you use to scan slides on a normal desktop scanner, I think he meant a proper 35mm slide scanner. Now a 35mm slide is roughly 2-3 times the size of a microfiche page (in both dimensions) but I think it might be worth a try if you could actually get the fiche into it. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

23 years, 1 month

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test-drb January 2002