test-drb January 2002

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by out2sea00＠yahoo.com

Folks -- Just a little update on a project I had posted the list about.... ... when we last saw our hero he was expecting the arrival of a bouncing baby S/36. Alright -- so it's really a teenager, and bouncing it hardly appropriate.... And he was worried about getting documentation and SSP Disks. Here's the news. The system's here -- and I've cleaned out the cobwebs, microvac'ing one card gingerly at a time. I found the maintenance manual -- under the case where IBM put it >from day one. The display station arrived (costing more than the server). Power was applied and two wonderous things happened: First, the lights *didn't* dim. This flat only has a 10A service and the machine's rated at 10A ( not to mention the other beasties sharing the aforementioned amperage). I had visions of that mammoth disk grinding into life while the neighorhood was plunged into darkness. I realize there are three phase 240 V devotee's on this list. I exhort them to understand my newbie thills at this minor first achievement, and not scoff outloud. Second, the silly thing actually IPL'd. I don't of course have a valid account for it. And so I've been hunting for installation media or hacking instructions. I think I've located the latter, but may end up requiring the former anyway. The diagnostic utilities have been partially removed from the fixed disk -- I suspect this was a space saving ploy. So some of the applications required to read the raw disk and seek the password file aren't available to me. For that I will need at least the diagnostic disk. Please volunteer suggestions on acquiring one of those (8" of course). Saddly this was a much as I've achieved. The second effort at an IPL failed -- and I'm still trying to track down the SRC cause. I'm not begging for help on that one just yet, though once again -- the diagnostic disk would be helpful. Please, please volunteer suggestions on acquiring one of those (8" of course). More information will be forthcoming, sometime next weekend -- probably whether anyone cares or not. I figure I'm entitled since at least my babbling is squarely on thread (and who knows, maybe of use to someone browsing through the profit/non-profit/useless classic/dual-athlon posts for a reference to retro-machines someday). ;->~ No that was not an open-flaming-season invitation. Just a good hearted jibe. Your's in 16bit brotherhood, Colin Eby Senior Consultant CSC Consulting PS -- Anyone have a spare left shift key for an IBM P70. I'm afraid I missing one, and this keyboard's somewhat unique to the model. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com

22 years, 5 months

Wanted: DEC Lisp PAK

by wlewis＠mailbag.com

Longshot, but someone here might have one or know where to find one. I'd like find a DEC Lisp PAK that someone is willing to sell/trade/give me. It seems there is no one at Compaq who is able/willing to assist and they have an IP issue with putting it on the free software list. Hence, transfering a license appears to be the only way to get that software running. Thanks, William -- You better watch out What you wish for; It better be worth it So much to die for. Courtney Love

22 years, 5 months

Apple II boards

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Erlacher [mailto:edick@idcomm.com] > only things I'm likely to keep will be the PSU's. It might > be well for you to > learn about the Apple-][+ before running out to get various > add-on's, so you > get the "right" stuff as opposed to a wierd assortment of junk. Think so? :) I imagine you're right. My question, though, had more to do with what kind of nifty stuff you can get to hook up to it. I have only worked with relatively "vanilla" Apple IIs, so I have little knowledge in that area. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

22 years, 5 months

IBM 3101 Dip Switches Configuration

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 24, Doc wrote: > > The problem is that the IBM 3101 don't establish communication > > with the Linux system. The 3101 show one "Line Check 2" message > > that talk about the comm.line, I suppose. The cable used is one > > normal serial cable. > > If by "normal serial cable" you mean a standard port-to-modem cable, > that is most likely your problem. You need to use a null-modem serial > cable with a terminal. That depends *completely* on the terminal. Several even have both DTE- and DCE-wired connectors. My standard rule for dealing with an RS232 in-yer-face is to plug it in without a null modem and see if it works...if it doesn't, then plug in a null modem. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

22 years, 5 months

Need source for high current HP type (with dimple) 14 or 16AWG 110vac power cord

by rhblakeman＠kih.net

Need a power cable for the Netserver, they got one with all of the machines they bought for resale so I have to locate one. It's a standard PC type (HP) plug on the server side except that it's got a dimple on the side opposite the angled corners and it's either 16 or 14AWG due to the 12A draw of the server. I also assume it to have a different plug, not sure though. I'm sure that other applications use the same thing with all the heavy servers out there and that someone has an aftermarket source or has a few ratholed with no immenent use for it/them. HP has theirs listd for US as 8120-5395 but is no longer available (go figure - no power cord and you have a useless server). I really don't want to chance grooving a standard 18AWG cord and watching the fire dept as they hose my shop and new server down. I just checked JDR and Jameco - Jameco lists a standard cable at 14AWG but no real picture of the end, just a generic photo/figure. Now it's time to dig out the Mouser and Digikey catalogs - might find the HP end that I need, I have plenty of heavy duty power cables with regular female outlets (some 12AWG) that I can use. In that case I could even wire it direct or to 220 (autoranging/adjusting unit). Have to research a little I guess.

22 years, 5 months

Is this a IBM RT mouse?

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 26, Doc wrote: > Based on the fact that the keyboard cutout of the RT's back panel is > shaped like the (huge) insulator on the interface, and the mouse in the > picture has a (huge) insulator [my terminology fails me here; sorry] > that matches the mouse port's cutout, I vote it's an RT mouse. > > What DO ya call that huge chunk o' rubber right behind the male end, > anyway? The foreskin? -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

22 years, 5 months

LEAST valuable collectibles (was: Apple II boards

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>Somebody (or more likely a group of people) need to compile a catalogue >of spare parts. Saying that the idler from a JVC.... video recorder has >the following dimensions (diameter, thickness, tyre width, etc). And that >the motor from a Panasonic CD player is 6V, with the following >dimensions. And so on. So that you can attempt to find parts that will >fit machines that nobody seels spares for any more... I have a "belt checker" from MCM electronics. You place the belt around one pin, then slid the other pin until the belt is sitting between them with no tension. It tells you the size of the belt. Then there is a ruler to measure the width, and a picture chart that shows style (square, round, whatever). When you have all the info, there is a chart on the back with MCM part numbers for the matching belt.... only down side... more often then not, they no longer carry the part listed on their checker... and they don't seem to have a list of compatible parts they DO carry... fortunalty, their master catalog has a list of belts and tires by size. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 5 months

Need source for high current HP type (with dimple) 14 or 16AWG 110vac power cord

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 27, Russ Blakeman wrote: > Need a power cable for the Netserver, they got one with all of the machines > they bought for resale so I have to locate one. It's a standard PC type (HP) > plug on the server side except that it's got a dimple on the side opposite > the angled corners and it's either 16 or 14AWG due to the 12A draw of the > server. I also assume it to have a different plug, not sure though. I'm sure > that other applications use the same thing with all the heavy servers out > there and that someone has an aftermarket source or has a few ratholed with > no immenent use for it/them. This is a standard high-current IEC power connector. They're used on several models of MicroVAX, several larger Cisco routers, and lots of other things. They shouldn't be too hard to find. Someone who carries Cisco supplies will have them. I think the 7513 uses these, in particular. > I really don't want to chance grooving a standard 18AWG cord and watching > the fire dept as they hose my shop and new server down. I wouldn't worry too much about this. Use an ammeter to check the current draw if you're really concerned...but I have a couple of DEC 4000/400 machines that have these power connectors, and they pull a whopping [measured] 3A. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

22 years, 5 months

Fwd: Datapoint 1500 with printer

by jhellige＠earthlink.net

Here's a system that I thought someone might be interested in. I received another email from him that suggested it also had dual 8" drive cabinets with it, as well as including images of it >from a flyer or book. I'd take it in myself but do not have the space for it at the moment. If interested, please reply directly to the sender. I can provide the images to anyone that wants them, as well as his phone number. Jeff >Status: U >Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 20:08:37 -0800 >From: John Valentine <john.valentine(a)verizon.net> >X-Accept-Language: en >To: jhellige(a)earthlink.net >Subject: Datapoint 1500 with printer > >Jeff: > >A friend of mine has a Datapoint 1500 with 160 cps printer. He is >looking for a home for the Datapoint. He was going to put it on ebay, >but we thought we would check the antique computer sites before doing >it. > >Are you interested? He lives in Fairfax, Virginia. > >John Valentine -- Home of the TRS-80 Model 2000 FAQ File http://www.cchaven.com http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757

22 years, 5 months

New Finds in Houston

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Well took some time off the job hunt and move to check out some of my old hangouts and found something I have been looking for, it's a working Vectrex in good shape with one controller and no games but the built in one for $25 at a local thrift. I have been watching these go high on eBay and figured I would not be able to get one anytime soon. I also picked up some game cartridges for the 2600, Virtual Boy, Game Gear, Jaguar, and some of the newer machines. The wife is making me hold off on buying until I start working again so I have not gone to any of the auctions here yet. There are 2 auctions here in Houston that you can find good deals at , one is only 2 days a week and the other is everyday. That's it for now keep on computing.

22 years, 5 months

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test-drb January 2002