On Jan 30, 15:36, Marvin Johnston wrote:
>
> What is the voltage, current, and style of the lamps used on the PDP-8
> series of computers? I recall seeing 14V, 28V lamps both mentioned, but
> no current ratings.
My PDP-8/E uses 12V or 14V bulbs, running off an 8V (nominal) supply. I'm
sure I posted some of the details to the list not very long ago, when I was
thinking about replacing the non-original LEDs with original bulbs. Other
models may very well be different, though.
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Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
On Jan 30, 18:19, Dave McGuire wrote:
> On January 30, Matt London wrote:
> > Quick question, I've got a Cipher F880 here (no tapes yet - anyone in
> > the UK wanna help out? :&) and someone just asked me what the maximum
> > capacity of the drive is....
>
> The Cipher F880 is a 1600bpi drive, if memory serves. It might also
> do 800bpi. Capacity depends on the block size...but on average, at
> 1600bpi on a 2400' reel, you'll get about 40MB or so.
That's what I thought, but I didn't want to be the first to reply because
I'm not really sure. If it does support both 800bpi and 1600bpi, and
you're in the UK not too far from York, I have an 800bpi tape which I can't
read on my 1600bpi drive, and would like copied sometime. It's an original
7th Edition distribution tape from the UK distribution centre at HWU, and
I've wanted to put it on the PUPS archive for a long time. Apart from the
fact that it's probably the tape used for the machine sitting a few feet
away frm me, which also came from HWU.
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Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ethan Dicks [mailto:erd_6502@yahoo.com]
> Keyboard error. It's _possible_ the keyboard error is in the VT131,
> but not as likely as in the keyboard. If you have a VT100 or VT101,
That was my thought...
> VT105, etc., you could test that keyboard in another terminal; but if
> you just have the VT131 as your sole example of DEC keyboards, that's
> a bit of a problem.
This is actually the only one I've ever met. I have seen pictures and
layout diagrams, though, and it _looks_ (IE the keys are the same) like
a VT100 keyboard. On the other hand, that other terminal _looked_ (The
case, etc, was nearly identical) like a VT100...
> If the label hasn't fallen off, ISTR that there was a paper sticker
> with the Digital logo and some numbers on the bottom.
Fallen off, or not there in the first place. :/
> It's possible, if you can't find a vendor description anywhere, that
> you picked up a keyboard for another terminal. Lots of folks
> used 1/4"
> jacks for keyboards in those days, even Apple (on the Lisa).
Yes, but again, it's not the jack that makes it look the same -- it
really does look like (at least a carbon copy of) a VT100 keyboard. See
my comment above about the other terminal, though. It certainly isn't a
Lisa keyboard. I have both the working machine, and a not-so-working
machine, each with the keyboard. Anyway, the apple markings would give
it away...
> If it's a DEC keyboard, it should be compatible. I am not aware of
> any major changes in keyboards, save VT100 vs LK201 and the like
> (different protocol, I presume; different appearance,
> different connector,
> etc.)
Yep. :) That's what I thought, anyway... So I'm assuming for now the
keyboard is bad, or incompatible. Perhaps I could modify it either way,
given the schematics for the keyboard...
> > Failing a way to positively identify the keyboard, are there any
> > common modes of failure along these lines?
> Dead chip in the keyboard, usually. We never fixed them when I used
> VT100s on a daily basis. We threw them into a box in the
> back room and
> grabbed a different (working) one from stock. The fact that we were
> shrinking on an annual basis meant that we never had to buy a terminal
> again after we hit our peak in 1984.
Do you know anything about the type/location on the board of this chip?
> Off of a good terminal? I presume that you could find a VT100 from a
> 3rd party vendor. Don't know what they sell for these days.
Hmm.. VT100 keyboard schematics, anyone? :) I'd really like to make this
into a console for my PDP-11.
Regards,
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
Where 'locally' is either a misprint for 'luckily', or it's the name
of a
small hamlet in Wales, not marked on any map.
That would be Llocaly, it's near Cwmfishin.
Lee.
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> Isn't that the DoD designation for a PDP-8?
We'll, I've seen Sperry-Rand, Harris, Unisys, and Honeywell systems with
that designation. It all depends on the number after the AN/UYK- as to what
it's the designation for.
Zane
Toth --
I'm afraid the P70 keys are different. They apparently built a special
keyboard just for this class of machine. I have a couple experiments in
mind as far as my own junk keyboards are concerned, but I haven't had a
chance to diagram out the mechanism so I can cross-breed something. The
ideal situation is a key from a dead P70. But I'd just be happy not to keep
slapping my finger into the empty socket everytime a rewrite a host file or
something. Sighhhh. Thanks for thinking of me though.
Colin Eby
Senior Consultant
CSC Consulting
On January 30, Matt London wrote:
> Quick question, I've got a Cipher F880 here (no tapes yet - anyone in
> the UK wanna help out? :&) and someone just asked me what the maximum
> capacity of the drive is....
The Cipher F880 is a 1600bpi drive, if memory serves. It might also
do 800bpi. Capacity depends on the block size...but on average, at
1600bpi on a 2400' reel, you'll get about 40MB or so.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf
Not that anyone cares, but if you've been trying to contact me for the
past 10 days and I have not responded, it is because:
a) I was on vacation
b) When I got back I discovered some little punk assed bitch had hacked
into my server and it had to be taken off the local network where it sits
for security reasons.
I'm only now getting this stupid server reconfigured properly again. All
I can say is for all my Linux evangelizing, it still as a LONG way to go
towards ease of setup. I thought SuSE was going to make things much
easier but I must say I had about as much trouble with SuSE as I did with
my old Red Hat setup.
Fooey on crappy Linux installs. Fooey on lame-o's who waste my time by
stumbling their way into my server and causing me to lose precious time.
Anyway, I hope this actually makes it out of here. And I hope whoever is
trying to contact me will be able to get through successfully.
It will still take me a day to work out bugs and get back to anyone who's
e-mailed me, so I appreciate your patience.
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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Hey ho people :&)
Quick question, I've got a Cipher F880 here (no tapes yet - anyone in
the UK wanna help out? :&) and someone just asked me what the maximum
capacity of the drive is....
Anyone care to enlighten me?
-- Matt
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