test-drb September 2001

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by cmcmanis＠netapp.com

In california that was : orbit% ./bday Time to roll is Sat Sep 8 18:46:40 2001 orbit% cat bday.c #include <stdio.h> #include <stdlib.h> #include <sys/time.h> int main(int argc, char *argv[]) { unsigned long now; now = 1000000000L; printf("Time to roll is %s\n", ctime(&now)); exit(0); } orbit% At 02:36 PM 9/10/01, you wrote: >While IBM, HP, Dec, Intel, Microsoft, and a cast of thousands have >been duking it out for the past 31-3/4 years, UNIX time() (ref: man 3 time) >has been steadily plodding along and has quietly ticked past 1 billion seconds >within the last day or so.

23 years, 3 months

Pin compatibility of 2716, 8316, 9218

by celigne＠tinyworld.co.uk

I'm looking at dumping the ROMs from a VT100 board, but I'm having trouble finding pinouts of the ROMs. The VT100 FMPS says that locations E40, E45, E52 and E56 on the basic board are 8316E 2Kx8 ROMs. However, the schematics don't show the designations for all 24 pins. The online Chip Directory doesn't contain the pinout for the 8316 either. My PROM Programmer will handle 2716 EPROMs, which the Chip Dir. does contain a pinout for, and looks compatible with the 8316. I'd be tempted to try dumping one of them, were it not for the fact that E45 on my board is actually labelled "AM9218CPC", the pinout for which is also absent from the Chip Dir. Could anyone please tell me definitively whether the 8316, 9218 and 2716 are pin-compatible? Cheers, Paul

23 years, 3 months

Vector 3/Teledisk

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

Doing it for N* and any other IE: multiple hard sector formats would be a challenge as the structure of the data differed greatly and also the timing. Also most of the hard sector controllers were uniquely dumb. By that I mean they depended on the CPU (even the lowly 8080) to do a great amount of the work. for example stepping the head in or out was usually done by setting a direction bit and timing out a step pulse(s) as needed. Sector read and write were assisted at the byte level with a usually simple FM/MFM/M2FM encode decode and a shift register plus a simple sync recognizer. Of course all of them went about it differently with variations abounding. Me I'd do a ISA to S100 adaptor and write code... ah foo it's easier to use a real ns* and far more productive. Allison -----Original Message----- From: Bob Stek <r.stek(a)snet.net> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Monday, September 10, 2001 1:49 PM Subject: Re: Vector 3/Teledisk >FWIW, I did once correspond with the Catweasel guy and he said it would >do N* 10-hole hard-sectored disks, but he had never had a request or >seen a N* disk. I was supposed to send him some samples but never got a >round tuit. > >And don't forget, it has already been done - the Microsolutions >MatchPoint card allows your PC to read N* disks. Of course, just try to >find one! > >If it provides motivation for one of you hardware types with nothing >better to do, I'd lend my support to requesting an add-in card which >could handle the 10 and 16 hole 5.25" disks and the 32 hole 8 inchers as >well (I have a lot of ProcTech Helios disks). > >Bob Stek >Saver of Lost Sols > > >

23 years, 3 months

DOS 1.0 copyright string

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

The are several strings embedded in the dos bot in command.com and IBMdos. The bios was uniquely IBM and not a copy. Also there are embedded characters in the code like: code.... move a,h ret DB "D" modecode... push D RET DB "R" and so on, it's spread out a bit. Allison -----Original Message----- From: Cini, Richard <RCini(a)congressfinancial.com> To: ClassCompList (E-mail) <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Monday, September 10, 2001 10:18 AM Subject: DOS 1.0 copyright string >Hello, all: > > I was able to get my hands on the two DOS 1.0 disks. So, I spent a >few minutes with Sourcer and a good hex editor in search of the DR copyright >notice. I didn't find it. > > Maybe I misunderstood the timing of the message, but I thought that >the 1.0 version of DOS contained copyright information from Digital Research >and when IBM found out, they compelled MS to expunge it, resulting in the >1.1 version. > > The file dates are as follows: > >c:\>dir a: > Volume in drive A is 3COM53_D1 > Volume Serial Number is 11DC-3A5E > > Directory of A:\ > >07/23/81 12:00a 1,920 IBMBIO.COM *** >08/04/81 12:00a 3,231 COMMAND.COM *** >08/13/81 12:00a 6,400 IBMDOS.COM *** >09/10/01 09:28a 66,235 COMMAND.LST >09/10/01 09:27a 4,374 IBMBIO.SDF >09/10/01 09:28a 143,874 IBMDOS.LST >09/10/01 09:28a 16,231 IBMDOS.SDF >09/10/01 09:27a 25,780 IBMBIO.LST >09/10/01 09:28a 10,141 COMMAND.SDF > 9 File(s) 278,186 bytes > 1,177,088 bytes free > > The files are all dated before the PC's release. I find it >interesting that the file date for DOS proper was one week before the PC >announcement. Microsoft tweaking until the last minute. > > IBMBIO contains only a revision mark and no copyright notice. IBMDOS >contains a header common to all versions of DOS ("M;S<>=~KRAA") and no >copyright notice. COMMAND contains a copyright message which is the one >probably displayed upon execution: > > The IBM Personal Computer DOS > Version 1.00 > (C)Copyright IBM Corp 1981 > Licensed Material - Program Property of IBM > > So, where did I go wrong?? > >Rich > > >========================== >Richard A. Cini, Jr. >Congress Financial Corporation >1133 Avenue of the Americas >30th Floor >New York, NY 10036 >(212) 545-4402 >(212) 840-6259 (facsimile) >

23 years, 3 months

Scanning (was Re: recent acquisitions for the House of VAX

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> This topic has gone over the list a few times, from experience, the "best" > scans are 600 DPI black and white compressed into PDF files. This achieves > exactly what is needed, get the data without a lot of excess. The KA655 TM I know in my case the max I can manage is 300dpi optical, but that will produce a usable document as long as it doesn't include circuit diagrams. Zane

23 years, 3 months

Scanning (was Re: recent acquisitions for the House of VAX

by cmcmanis＠netapp.com

This topic has gone over the list a few times, from experience, the "best" scans are 600 DPI black and white compressed into PDF files. This achieves exactly what is needed, get the data without a lot of excess. The KA655 TM that is on the DFWCUG site appears from the PDF to be 100 DPI/8 bit (note that's 800 bits per inch net and the result is harder to read) I'll add scanning this manual to my list. They don't appear to have come up with a 'standard' for their scans. That would help too. --Chuck At 01:01 PM 9/10/01, you wrote: > > However, someone decided to scan some of the manuals as low > > resolution 8 bit grey scale (what a waste of someone's scanning time!) > >Do you mean low or high resolution? There's no need for 48 or even 16 >bit for anything not continuous tone. I got three manuals from DFWCUG >and am very happy with the quality. Perhaps they could look into more >efficient compression, though. > >John A.

23 years, 3 months

VAX 11/780 documentation requested

by msell＠ontimesupport.com

Hey guys, (and gals) Help! : ) I'm trying to find documentation to help get my 11/780 fully operational. The PDP-11/03 starts the internal self-test, but fails right before actually reading the 8" floppy. There was a diagnostic guide on E-Bay that I really wanted, and bid a pretty decent amount on, but it seems someone else needed that document more than I did. Oh well...... If anyone has spare or unused documentation for the VAX 11/780, please let me know. This is needed to get my 780 back to operation. If you want links to a site showing my 780 for proof that I indeed have one, let me know. I realize that some don't want to give up stuff to those who will just turn around and E-Bay it. - Matthew Sell Matthew Sell Programmer On Time Support, Inc. www.ontimesupport.com (281) 296-6066 Join the Metrology Software discussion group METLIST! http://www.ontimesupport.com/cgi-bin/mojo/mojo.cgi "One World, One Web, One Program" - Microsoft Promotional Ad "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitler Many thanks for this tagline to a fellow RGVAC'er...

23 years, 3 months

HP 3000 (Micro 3000) free in New Jersey

by sieler＠allegro.com

Hi, Is anyone is interested in a free, working Micro 3000 XE (desktop size Classic HP 3000), complete with disks, tape drive ... and is willing to pick it up (or pay to have it picked up), please contact me soon. Disk drives: HP 7958, and HP 7936. Tape drive: HP 35401 (9144 cartridge tape auto changer) MPE Version is V-Delta 5. It's in Lebanon, New Jersey, off of Route 78. thanks, Stan (cc: Gunther, who knows someone driving to New Jersey soon :) Stan Sieler sieler(a)allegro.com www.allegro.com/sieler/wanted/index.html www.allegro.com/sieler

23 years, 3 months

VMS Licenses (was Re: recent acquisitions for the House of VA X

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> Chuck McManis wrote: > >Something to note is that the VMS licenses from the Hobbyist program will >work on VMS 5.x and beyond, they will _not_ work on VMS 4.x (the LMF >changed significantly between 4.x and 5.x). However, since most "classic" The most significant change being that it sprang into existence with V5.0 :-) Before that VAX/VMS, DECnet and Clustering (and some other SIPs I forget) were enabled or enhanced using patches. I *think* that these patches were being collected in order to be made available on some future Freeware CD but I may be wrong about that. Antonio

23 years, 3 months

VAX 11/780 documentation requested

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> Matthew Sell wrote: > >I'm trying to find documentation to help get my 11/780 fully operational. As of last weekend you'll find a set of six technical manuals over at: http://208.190.133.201/decimages/moremanuals.htm They're all technical manuals rather than user guides and maintenance guides but that's all I was sent. The HW user guide may well be on its way sometime ... if it turns up I'll scan it and let you know. I've seen people on this list state before now that they have the printsets so maybe they'll appear one day. >There was a diagnostic guide on E-Bay that I really wanted, and bid a >pretty decent amount on, but it seems someone else needed that document >more than I did. Oh well...... Eighty odd dollars! You could try the seller to see if it was a duplicate and/or you could try the buyer to see if he can either help out or scan it for you. >me know. This is needed to get my 780 back to operation. If you want links >to a site showing my 780 for proof that I indeed have one, let me know. I Links would be nice anyway ... I for one would like to see a VAX-11/780 again! Antonio

23 years, 3 months

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test-drb September 2001