> ! rm -rf /bin/laden = force the recursive removal of bin laden.
> ! This would include himself, as well as all of his subordinates
There is actually already in production a line of t-shirts,
sweatshirts, and a coffee mug with this on it.
> ! chmod a+x /bin/laden = allow anyone the permission to execute
> ! bin laden
heh... hadn't seen this one.
-dq
On Sep 17, 10:05, Dan Wright wrote:
> Info from LSI said:
> >
> > my multisync Sony's have worked with just about every type system
> > I have ever tried them on except my SGI Indy's, and that might be
> > because the SGI's 13W3 pin-out might not be compatible with the
> > 13W3 to HD15 adapter I use with the Sun's? It's been very
>
> That's correct, the SGIs actually so SOG over the 13W3 connector. I
don't
> know what the pinout is, but I DO know that the 13W3 to HD15 adapters
sold for
> Suns don't work with the SGIs.
Some SGIs do put out a separate sync signal; some Suns do as well.
However, SGIs tend to provide separate hsync and vsync while Suns mostly
do composite sync. Moreover, they use different pins for the sync and
monitor type sense. I'm sure I posted the two pinouts to the list a while
ago.
But I've found almost all my multisync Sonys work with mu Indys and
Indigos, providing I have the relevant 13W3-3xBNC or whatever cable. I
think the only exception I've found was a Sun-badged Sony that wanted
composite sync.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Bob Brown <bbrown(a)harper.cc.il.us> wrote:
> What happened regarding the desktop hp3000 that was being discussed?
"desk-sized", not "desktop". It looks sort of like one and takes up
about that much floor space, which is handy to know when one is
figuring out how to lay out one's computer room.
Speaking from personal experience, you may have to un-bolt the top
(the woodgrain bit) to get a /44, /48, or /58 to fit around corners
and through doors.
-Frank McConnell
! -----Original Message-----
! Subject: Re: unix
! From: "Brad Brown" <brad.brown(a)openwave.com>
! Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 10:48:55 -0700
! X-Message-Number: 10
!
! rm -rf /bin/laden = force the recursive removal of bin laden.
! This would include himself, as well as all of his subordinates
!
! chmod a+x /bin/laden = allow anyone the permission to execute
! bin laden
--- David A Woyciesjes
--- C & IS Support Specialist
--- Yale University Press
--- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu
--- (203) 432-0953
--- ICQ # - 905818
! >Modified Modular Jack. It's DEC connector, a bit like a
! >telephone plug
! >with the locking clip offset from the middle...
!
! Can someone get me a pinout of that? I suppose it shouldn't be too
! hard to change out for a normal jack.
Pins:
1 - DSR
2 - RX+
3 - RX-
4 - TX-
5 - TX+
6 - DTR
As seen here...
http://www.openvms.compaq.com/wizard/openvms_faq.html#WIRES1
--- David A Woyciesjes
--- C & IS Support Specialist
--- Yale University Press
--- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu
--- (203) 432-0953
--- ICQ # - 905818
Roger Merchberger replied to Blair Miller...
>>now, so I've never seen the monitor hook-up either... it's mini-coax and
>>looks like the diagram below:
>>
>>(o)(o)(o)
>>
>>I'm assuming that's RGB...
>
>Yep... As the ascii graphic (while pretty) is not completely informative,
>if it's three mini-coax in IIRC a DB shell, it could be the same cable as
>is used on some DEC machines, notably some of the older RISC boxen & the
>DEC 3000/300 (which I have)...
A cable meeting a similar description (dunno if it's identical?) to go from
my VAX 4000 VLC to its VRC-16HA monitor carries the label: BC29G-09. When I
google-searched for it, I found it available for prices ranging from around
$15 to around $120 (!) on the net. This was several months ago.
- Mark
Recall that Jonathan Engdahl recently announced his development
of MSCP device drivers for 2.9 BSD. That work was made possible
by the availability of a reliable simulation environment.
For this reason alone, simulators are indispensible to the
real-hardware camp, as tools for supporting the maintenance and
development of operating systems.
Furthermore, I think simulators can play a big role in
encouraging the long-term collection, retention and dissemination
of legacy software to run on either real or emulated hardware.
Norm Aleks and I just acquired an IBM 1130, and as far as I can
see, there is NO software archived out there anywhere. It's very
discouraging. You can bet that we're going to post whatever we can
get our hands on, along with the simh-based simulator I'm 75% done
with, to hopefully reawaken interest in the 1130.
That's my .4 bits worth.
Brian
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
_| _| _| Brian Knittel / Quarterbyte Systems, Inc.
_| _| _| Tel: 1-510-559-7930 Fax: 1-510-525-6889
_| _| _| Email: brian(a)quarterbyte.com
_| _| _| http://www.quarterbyte.com
Hello Blair,
It seems from your description of your video connector
that it may in fact be the 3W3 video connector as used
on some DEC systems. One list member indicated ...
> to 3 BNCs to hook up to a decent monitor that does sync on green
If you try to use a fixed frequency monitor, you must use
one that is a sync on green model monitor and that syncs at
the correct horizontal and vertical frequencies. If you can
determine which model monitor originally went to that system,
you might be able to research a DEC or HP model that syncs at
the same frequencies at ...
http://www.monitorworld.com/Monitors/dec/http://www.monitorworld.com/Monitors/hp/
> Find yerself a DEChead or two, and they may have a cable to fit...
While I don't have any spares myself, I recently bought a cable
>from Barry's Supply. He has one currently available at ...
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1275561813
> some older multisync Mac monitors with the 3-BNC input might work
^^^^^^^^^....... NOT .......... ^^^^^
Sony made monitors for DEC, HP, IBM, SGI, Sun, RasterOps, Radius,
and possibly others. If a monitor has only 3-BNC inputs, it is
most probably a sync on green fixed frequency model. If it has
4-BNC inputs, it is most probably a composite sync model ( the
only exception I know of to that is a NEC model which also has
a HD15 connector in addition to the 4-BNC's ). Any other monitor
I have ever seen, other than those NEC models, that is a multisync
had 5-BNC inputs. Note however that some 5-BNC input models are
fixed frequency ( GDM-1950 and GDM-1952 come to mind ). Generally
I have found that the Sony models that have 5-BNC inputs and
rotary controls are the fixed frequency type. The models that
have 5-BNC inputs and have push button controls ( digital ) have
been multisyncs ( GDM-1971 and 2075RO come to mind ).
http://www.monitorworld.com/Monitors/sony/http://www.monitorworld.com/Monitors/radius/http://www.monitorworld.com/Monitors/radius/0322precisioncolor20.htmlhttp://www.monitorworld.com/Monitors/rasterops/http://www.monitorworld.com/Monitors/rasterops/2075ro20colorgraphicsdisplay…
Those monitors that are considered multisyncs should be able to
sync up on a horizontal scan frequency as low as, or slightly
lower than, DOS's 31.5 kHz. The really nice thing about the
5-BNC Sony models, both fixed frequency and multisyncs, is that
they auto-sense, and auto-switch sync types. So even though the
monitor has 5 BNC inputs, you can still hook up to just 3 of
them if your graphics outputs a sync on green signal, or 4 of
them if your graphics outputs a composite ( H and V on the same
line, but a separate line than R, G, or B ) sync signal. And of
course if your graphics outputs a separate sync signal ( H, V,
R, G, and B all on separate lines ) you would connect to all 5-BNC
inputs. I use my Sony multisyncs to hook up to and test my DEC
Alpha's (SOG), VAXstation 4000/60's (SOG), HP PA-RISC (SOG),
Sun's (CS), Macintosh's (CS), and of course, PC's (SS). In fact,
my multisync Sony's have worked with just about every type system
I have ever tried them on except my SGI Indy's, and that might be
because the SGI's 13W3 pin-out might not be compatible with the
13W3 to HD15 adapter I use with the Sun's? It's been very
convenient, space wise, to use one monitor to test all those type
systems, rather than have to store a different monitor for each
one.
Bennett
Subject:
Re: IBM PowerStation 530
Date:
Sun, 16 Sep 2001 11:40:00 -0400
From:
"Blair J. Miller" <millerbj(a)umich.edu>
Reply-To:
classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
To:
<classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
References:
1 , 2
Emanual -
Hrm... I guess if I'd have known from the beginning that the computer
would
be a '7013 model 530' I'd have been a lot better off. I didn't find the
exact manual, but rather one for the '500' series, and though it was
published in 1996 (this computer is from 1990 or so) most of the
physical
stuff still seems to apply. Thanks for the heads up...
- Blair
> Try www.ibm.com ;-)
> Anyway, check the real product number of this machine. Should be
> something like "7013 model 530" (?)
Subject:
Re: IBM PowerStation 530
Date:
Sun, 16 Sep 2001 11:45:29 -0400
From:
"Blair J. Miller" <millerbj(a)umich.edu>
Reply-To:
classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
To:
<classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
References:
1 , 2
> Yup, it's RGB, sync on green. You need to get a cable to break that
out
> to 3 BNCs to hook it up to a decent monitor that does sync on green...
Unfortunately, the monitor that may have been hooked up to the machine
was
nowhere to be found... and this being my first classic computer, I don't
have such a thing lying around either. :o(
I read something about hooking a serial terminal up to the machine
directly... Forgive me for dumb questions, but I'm assuming a serial
terminal is one of those boxes that I keep seeing that has hookups for
mice,
keyboards, SVGA monitors, and the like? Also called a 'Terminal Station'
I
believe... Will this work? I don't even know if I'm asking the right
question here, and I could be horribly, stupidly, wrong. :o) This thing
comes from 'way back in the day' for me, before I was even interested in
computers, so I don't know a whole heck of a lot right now. More
research I
guess...
Thanks again.
Blair
Subject:
Re: IBM PowerStation 530
Date:
Sun, 16 Sep 2001 11:49:01 -0400
From:
"Blair J. Miller" <millerbj(a)umich.edu>
Reply-To:
classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
To:
<classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
References:
1
> Without looking at your email address, it took me a moment to figure
out
> where you were... I'm up in Sault Ste. Marie, MI right on the Canadian
I've been there once or twice... I believe I also have relatives living
there, though that could just be my imagination.
> Find yerself a DEChead or two, and they may have a cable to fit... and
some
> older multisync Mac monitors with the 3-BNC input might work with it
as
> well...
Where would I find something like this... I've no problems driving
around
Michigan (I think of driving as a way to calm down, and I end up doing
it a
lot, especially when dealing with foreign territory in the world of
computers) to get my hands on one, but I'm not sure where to look. I
suppose
another trip to property disposition is in order. :o)
Thanks for the tips.
Blair
Subject:
Re: IBM PowerStation 530
Date:
Sun, 16 Sep 2001 11:50:36 -0400
From:
"Blair J. Miller" <millerbj(a)umich.edu>
Reply-To:
classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
To:
<classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
References:
1 , 2
> If you decide not to keep the 530 let me know
Will do. You close to Ann Arbor?
Blair
Subject:
Re: IBM PowerStation 530
Date:
Sun, 16 Sep 2001 11:53:16 -0400
From:
"Blair J. Miller" <millerbj(a)umich.edu>
Reply-To:
classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
To:
<classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
References:
1
> You should be able to get it to use a serial console. Having the key
to
> get it into service mode is extra helpful.
Fortunately, I've got the key. Unfortunately, I'm a newbie to ALL of
this,
and I'm not sure what a serial console is... can you elaborate?
> Making sure the RAM hasn't been removed is important. The amount
would
> matter if you were going to try to move to recent versions of AIX.
I doubt it has. It was just sitting there, and it doesn't appear that
anyone
has opened it in a LONG LONG time. As for AIX, I'll figure that out when
I
can actually use the system. I also read something very brief that this
machine would run LinuxPPC or YellowDog (forget which). Any idea if
that's
true?
Thanks for your help.
Blair
Well, I asked this, just in case there was a problem somewhere.
Every other mailing list I'm on does not have a delay this bad. I'm not
worried about a delay, but with it being 1.5 hours, it seems like there's a
problem somewhere. We're using Exchange here at work, so that might be it.
If anyone has any hints of stuff for me to check out here at this
end, let me knwo, off-list...
--- David A Woyciesjes
--- C & IS Support Specialist
--- Yale University Press
--- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu
--- (203) 432-0953
--- ICQ # - 905818
! -----Original Message-----
! From: Roger Merchberger [mailto:zmerch@30below.com]
! Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 4:22 PM
! To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
! Subject: RE: Why is this so slow?
!
!
! Rumor has it that David Woyciesjes may have mentioned these words:
! >Rich ---
! > Actually, my time estimate was a little wrong. The messages take
! >about an hour and a half...
!
! [snip]
!
! I've not seen lags anywhere near that -- mebbe 5-10 minutes
! at most. My
! Eudora checks mail every 4 minutes, and it's usually 2 checks
! & it's there.
!
! Methinks it might be something on your end... Have you called
! your ISP?
!
! I'll time this one and see what I end up with...
!
! HTH,
! "Merch"
! --
! Roger "Merch" Merchberger --- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers
! Recycling is good, right??? Ok, so I'll recycle an old .sig.
!
! If at first you don't succeed, nuclear warhead
! disarmament should *not* be your first career choice.
!
