test-drb August 2001

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by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On August 6, Heinz Wolter wrote: > Most interesting is that Cray signed a sales/service distribution deal > with of all companies -DEC- but but later cancelled when they couldn't > sell enough units. The YMP-EL gave rise to EL-98, 94 and 92 models > and was the basis for the J90, J90se (100Mhz clock) and SV1(300Mhz) > systems. Later, Cray would use the DEC Alpha 21044 in the T3D & T3E > massively parallel systems - the start of the end for vector > supercomputers. Gotta correct you here, Heinz...The Cray MPP and PVP families have coexisted for some time, and will continue to do so for the forseeable future. Massively parallel scalar systems can't replace vector processors for all applications. They're not considered to be "newer" or "better" in any way, just different. The SV2, for example, is about to ship, with its successor in the design stages right now. -Dave -- Dave McGuire Laurel, MD

22 years, 11 months

Collections vs. accumulations, was Re: How many collectors?

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > > > Want a fuel injection "brain" from a 1968 VW Squareback? > > Had Bosch come up with EFI already by 1968? > yes. > > Every VW (and Audi & MB, etc) of that vintage that I've seen used > > CIS, which was a purely mechanical system. > Then you've never seen any VWs of that vintage. What I meant... > In 1968, ALL VW type 1 (beetle) and type 2 (bus) used a > single carburetor. What I meant was that if it didn't use a carb, all I'd seen was CIS. I thought EFI was a 70s invention; I stand corrected! And BTW, I seek-and-destroy Solex carbs; they were designed only for the purpose of being replaced by a Weber! > The type 3 was Botch electronic fool injection (Lots of wires and senders, > and a "brain" in the left rear fender). There was no type 4 yet. Ah, yes, the Audifans also use this "fool" designation... > through about 1964, the VW type 3 (squareback/ "fastback"/ and the > "rare" "notchback") had a single sidedraft Solex carb, with > single port heads. > Then they switched to to two Solex carbs ????? -2 and -3 > '67 VW type 3 had the two carburetors (with dual port heads) Audi created a monster in Europe with the Audi Coupe 100, which came in a version that had dual 32/36DGV Solex's... 130HP, not bad for that engine, if you know it's history (4 cyl OHV, the block got redesigned into an OHC for the Porsche 924 and some VW truck sold only in Europe, not to mention the Jeep). > In 1968, the type 3 switched over to Botch electronic fool injection. > It was a 1600cc engine. It required a little tweaking to make the EFI > work with 2180 (the maximum size that that block could be readily expanded > to.) So, prior to the fuel crisis and emission controls, what was the motivating factor for the use of EFI? And why bother with CIS once you have EFI (spraying fuel into cylinders at off-times never maid sense). > > I have seen a 1969 Audi Super 90 (wagon) that had an aftermarket > > Capacitative Discharge Ignition (CDI) System... by 1974, Audis > > had those as stock, while CIS was still 1 year off... > > My 1986 Audi 5000 CS Turbo Quattro uses a Motorola 6802-based > > controller... very simple to upgrade, too.... ;-) > > [every time somebody doubts the existence of stuff, I double > the price on it due to its obvious rarity!] I'll have to cruise by the E-Bay VW section... didn't know you were prevalent there too! -dq

22 years, 11 months

Fibre Optic Cable 1005-0078

by terryc＠woa.com.au

I've not had much luck with this on search engines. so I am trying it here as it must be close to being classic if not already. I am trying to identify a HP fibre optic cable assembly; P/N(?) 1005-0078. It is described as a 30 metre fibre optic cable assembly. If was dumpster recovered 5 years ago and comes on a plastic drum about 13" across, which is labelled with the above desctiption. It was fitted with two dissimilar cable anchorage. Does anyone have any ideas what it was/is? The cable actually looks like black figure 8 electrical wire (standard lamp stuff), but thinner. More to the point, the fibres are terminated with a screw on fitting, which I have never seen listed in any catalogue. My thoughts were to try and find a couple of AUI to FO converters and use it as part of my SOHO network between the garage(lab/workshop) and office. -- Terry Collins {:-)}}} Ph(02) 4627 2186 Fax(02) 4628 7861 email: terryc(a)woa.com.au www: http://www.woa.com.au WOA Computer Services <lan/wan, linux/unix, novell> "People without trees are like fish without clean water"

22 years, 11 months

IBM 5150 PC

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

Spaketh Russ Thus: > True and half of mine are the older 16-64's and the other half are the newer > 64-256k types. I've had people locally tell me that they had an "orignal IBM > PC" and when I got to look at it the thing only had one 5 pin DIN (no > cassette port) and had 8 slots - of course they were 5160 XT's. I did get > one free once that ended up being some sort of metwork controller built > in/around a 5150 but it was toasted and I've since gotten rid of it (it had > a totally different number like a 34xx or something) Someone else on the list recently mentioned having a bunch of the m-boards, but I never determined whether they were the 16-54s with the casette interface or not. I've still got an original case waiting for an m-board w/casette and hopefully a BASIC ROM... Regards, -dq

22 years, 11 months

pigware (Descent)

by mjsnodgr＠rockwellcollins.com

Jeff Hellige <jhellige(a)earthlink.net>@classiccmp.org on 08/06/2001 03:13:26 PM Please respond to classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Sent by: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org cc: Subject: Re: pigware >>True... For grins-n-giggles I loaded up DOS on my AMD T-Bird 900 MHz box >>with 512M or RAM when a certain bloated pig'ware OS crashed because it was >>"out of resources" and ran Descent - a game designed to run on a 50MHz >>processor... It ran like a spotted ape! Wonderful framerates! >> >>I like the tagline BTW, and Descent came out in um.... 1993 I think, maybe >>1992. So it's almost vintage. <grin> > > The 3 CD's of the 'Descent I and II - The Definitive >Collection' are copyrighted 1997 but I know that Descent I came out >long before that. 1992/93 sounds about right though. It was always >one of my favorite 3D shooter games. That and Marathon on the Mac. >The specs listed for Descent I are a 486DX2-66, DOS 5 and 8MB of RAM. >Descent II required Win95 and was accelerated for the S3 Virge 3D >chipset. > > Jeff >-- > Home of the TRS-80 Model 2000 FAQ File > http://www.cchaven.com > http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 8 Meg... <grin> true, true. The version of D2 you have may "require" win95, but the Win95 "port" (well, it was more of a wrapper for the game really) of Descent 2 came out ummm... 9 months or so after D2 was released. Interplay released it as a DOS game originally, (I think in 1994) and then Win95 came out a year later and they released the "Win95 enhanced version." <grin> with much pomp and circumstance. (On that note, FASA/Hasbrough (?) released Mechwarrior Mercenaries a similar way: write the game as a DOS game with IPX network support, with a Win95 wrapper so win95 would think that it was a wingame. ...now back to your regularly scheduled programming... - M.S.

22 years, 11 months

Vax 6000 (fwd)

by thompson＠mail.athenet.net

Contact original poster. -- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 16:02:27 -0500 (CDT) From: rachel(a)arthur.avalon.net To: port-vax(a)netbsd.org Subject: Vax 6000 We have a Vax 6000 series, I don't have it near me so I don't know the exact model right now, I think it was a 480, or something akin. It has some kind of upgrade, since the badge on the back says upgraded to. 65BUA-AF Which is a 400/500 upgrade for the 6000 Vaxen. Right now all I have that wasn't bought is the CPU rackunit, and all of the cards, in the original state that they same in on. I also have a Dec Array 650 that came in with it, though Ibelieve one drive may be missing. They are very heavy, and I am sure more costly to ship than the item is worth. I am in Iowa City, Iowa. I'd like to find this thing a great home. I am also aware that the NetBSD vax port went Multi-CPU, and well, supports many of the 6000 series now. So I will give any help to anyone that wants data on it, or perhaps even eventually send the non-heavy cards to people that may be developing or have a good use for them.

22 years, 11 months

Collections vs. accumulations, was Re: How many collectors?

by Gary.Messick＠itt.com

> > pulled the plug on that one, so I think they're using a PPC > derivative now. > > Would it be one of the 400-series embedded chips I enjoy playing with? > > Peace... Sridhar > Again, I'm not sure. When I left they were working on a software development console previous to any hardware being designed. The software development console was VME based and used a MOT PPC601 if I remember correctly. Not sure whatever made it into production. Gary

22 years, 11 months

Wildly OT: RE: Blanket insults for one's peer group, was Re: VCF East makes The Economist

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > The Economist stands head and shoulders above most US media > > in terms of the depth of thinking in most of its articles. > > Perhaps you could browse their web site to see what I'm > > talking about. Obviously the author was referring to the > > Windows PC, the mostly commonly used type of personal computer > > on the planet, at least among those of us who don't live > > in their parent's basement. > > Now THAT's a pretty shitty thing to say. Personally, I moved into my > own place when I was 19, thank you very much, and have been > supporting a good portion of my family for several years. Dave- Actually, I probably resemble R.D.'s remark more than anyone else on the list, but regardless of his intent, I can't take it as an insult. I moved into my parents' basement in 1969. By 1975, it had become such a popular place that coming in through the front door (which required screening by the folks) got to be too much of a bother, so people would just knock on the window and we'd pull it out and them in. I stayed there until I moved out to shack up with some fellow hippies***. I stayed there until I realized I was the only hippie with a salary and all mine was going into the group support (though life there did have its compensations). I then moved back home to the parents' basement where I remained until they died. Now it's my basement. I immediately moved upstairs into the master bedroom. And no curtain climbers to distract >from the accumulation, er, hobby... However, the basement today is a lonely place... Regards, -doug quebbeman *** The 1967 "Death of Hippie" at the Human Be-In at People's Park in Bezerkly notwithstanding.

22 years, 11 months

An analogue tale

by mranalog＠home.com

This is a short story I promise. About two years ago I pick a couple of op-amps off of eBay. I'm pretty sure I actually bought them from Rich Cini. These op-amps are Philbrick Researches, vacuum-tube type, K2s. Anyway, one of the amplifiers had cracks down both sides of the Bakelite base. Someone had broken it open to see the insides. So, I decided to get a little arty, and took a photo of two K2-Ws, one with and one without it's Bakelite case, laying on top of a data sheet for the K2-W. And I put a copyright notice under the picture on my little museum. http://www.best.com/~dcoward/analog/k2w.jpg Then last month, I received an email from a graphic arts company in Palm Springs saying that they wanted "this title only" rights to use the picture for a college textbook. > "McGraw-Hill Higher Education in Burr Ridge, > IL is preparing a college engineering text > called Engineering Circuit Analysis 6/e, by > Hayt, Kemmerly and Durbin. They would like > to use one of your images from this Website > in the text:" > "George A Philbrick Researches 1952 -Model K2-W > opamp with and without it's Bakelite shell/ > @ Doug Coward, 2000" . I mailed back the release about a week ago, and there is no guarantee that the picture will not be cut, but maybe I've made it to hard cover. --Doug ========================================= Doug Coward @ home in Poulsbo, WA Analog Computer Online Museum and History Center http://www.best.com/~dcoward/analog =========================================

22 years, 11 months

pigware

by mjsnodgr＠rockwellcollins.com

Matthew Sell <msell(a)ontimesupport.com>@classiccmp.org on 08/06/2001 01:21:53 PM Please respond to classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Sent by: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org cc: Subject: Re: Blanket insults for one's peer group Nor did the average computer user REQUIRE 64 Megs of RAM and 60 GB drive space to run that word processor, either.... : ) - Matt "One World, One Web, One Program" - Microsoft Promotional Ad "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitler Many thanks for this tagline to a fellow RGVAC'er... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- True... For grins-n-giggles I loaded up DOS on my AMD T-Bird 900 MHz box with 512M or RAM when a certain bloated pig'ware OS crashed because it was "out of resources" and ran Descent - a game designed to run on a 50MHz processor... It ran like a spotted ape! Wonderful framerates! I like the tagline BTW, and Descent came out in um.... 1993 I think, maybe 1992. So it's almost vintage. <grin> - M.S.

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