From: "Iggy Drougge" <optimus(a)canit.se>
> What a shame, I can't find the 32100 in the otherwise great "Great
> microprocessors of the past and present"
> How about an introduction?
Orginally, the We32000, but pretty qucikly moved to the We32100. This is
actually the CPU; there was a complete set of support chips. 10MHz, with a
later upgrade to 18MHz (still not very fast). Used in the AT&T 3B2, 3B5 &
3B20 machines, and also shows up in a number of other odd places (some AT&T
PBXs, 5ESS switch, etc.). CISC architecture, designed (supposedly) to
efficiently support C language compliation. There was a followon We32200
chip that I recall showed up in the 3B2/1000.
I've got the We32100 reference manual at home, if any has specific
questions.
AT&T carpet-bombed Georgia Tech with 3b2s when I was there (~1985), so I
used them quite a bit at the time. Actually really nice when used with the
5620 BLIT graphics terminals. I'd love to have one of those.
Ken
Hello Ken Seefried
Ive just read the following at
http://www.classiccmp.org/mail-archive/classiccmp/2001-04/3528.html
> Start
I've recently come into a cache of National Semiconductor 32000 series ICs
that I would be willing to part with for someone who is repairing something
vintage that uses them. Contact me with what you can use and what you will
use it for. The part #s are:
ns32301
ns32302
ns32303
ns32081
ns16032
ns32008
ns16082
ns32082
ns32332
ns32382
> End
Im currently searching for an NS32081N-15 FPU for repairing a Canon LBP4
laser printer.
Im very interested to hear if you have the above mentioned device and what
it costs.
I live in Denmark, but I hope thats not a problem.
Looking forward to hear from you.
Best regards
Niels Pauli Hansen
> AT&T carpet-bombed Georgia Tech with 3b2s when I was there (~1985), so I
> used them quite a bit at the time. Actually really nice when used with
the
> 5620 BLIT graphics terminals. I'd love to have one of those.
I remember the shock I got when I was first introduced to the 5620, having
just moved to AT&T from Xerox :-) My new boss was surprised to see my lack
of enthusiasm, since I was "one of the lucky ones" to have a 5620 instead of
the HP terminals (2620?) everyone else was using.. I'd just come from an
environment where all development was done on D-machines with 21" monitors,
suddenly I'm looking at a strange A4ish sized terminal which was hooked up
to an Amdahl mainframe along with the rest of the site... whoa, culture
shock! The mouse was the oddest thing I ever saw, a huge red half-globe
thing with three huge clicky switches right on the rim, very uncomfortable
to use.
I was sad to see it go when a year or so later they upgraded a bunch of
terminals to 630s with orange screens... orange on black never really worked
for me :-)
By the time I left AT&T they'd belatedly joined the desktop revolution and
had equipped everyone with Sun IPXs, but the old centralised mainframe
mentality never quite went away... all our home directories were remote
mounted from a central server :-)
Happy daze!
-al
A reasonable weekend:
- HP 9000/834 + 7959 disk with HP-UX 8.x. Another one of those "don't know
root password, must play evil [cr][h]acker". My first ever PA-RISC :-)
- HP 3000 Micro GX. I don't know anything about MPE and I don't know
the manager (?) password. Must learn more. My first ever 3k :-)
- HP 700-RX. Beats the pants of my old(er) 700-X. This one is usable for
xpilot.
- DEC VT-1200. A reasonable compliment to the pile of VXT-2000's.
- Random junk.
And as nearly always, no documents at all. Interestingly the 834 case is
the same as the 9000/550 case.
Does anyone have any pointers to easy MPE documentation ?
--
jht
> Am I the only person here who instinctively uses ^S to halt screen output
> and ^Q to restart it?
Nope, I still find ^S/^Q useful for suspending/resuming Java apps when they
output an appropriate debug string :-)
-al
> Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 09:33:54 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "Fred Cisin (XenoSoft)" <cisin(a)xenosoft.com>
> Subject: Re: Finds in Houston
>
> On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, Mike Ford wrote:
> > Not exactly. Certain people are still buying monitors working or
> not. One
> > of my friends just brokered a deal on 3,000 old apple monitors. Not nice
> > big ones either, but old 14" monitors.
>
> You have unusual friends. Or one friend who is REALLY strange.
> Hmmmm. Why would a spammer want thousands of old monitors,. . .
>
Maybe for the viseogame market, if they are 14" composite color
monitors, the apple ones have really good picture tubes... If they are
VGA, they also have good picture tubes and possibly are also for the
video games matket or maybe for a cheap all-in one internet appliance.
As a Commodore fan it can be hard to get Commodore composite monitors
because most other classic computerists/gamers know how good some of
them are.
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> Control G is Bell. Some older electronic keyboards, including the one on
> the Apple ][ have the word 'Bell' on the 'G' key.
Actually, ^G is BEL (just three characters). In order:
NUL, SOH, STX, ETX, EOT, ENQ, ACK, BEL, BS, HT, LF, VT, FF, CR, SO, SI,
DLE, DC1, DC2, DC3, DC4, NAK, SYN, ETB, CAN, EM, SUB, ESC, FS, GS, RS,
US, SP, and DEL.
Eight-bit ASCII (at least DEC's implementation) added:
IND, NEL, SSA, ESA, HTS, HTJ, VTS, PLD, PLU, RI, SS2, SS3, DCS, PU1, PU2,
STS, CCH, MW, SPA, EPA, CSI, ST, OSC, PM, and APC.
> ^Q (Xon), ^R (Yon), ^S (Xoff), ^T (Yoff).
>
> Am I the only person here who instinctively uses ^S to halt screen output
> and ^Q to restart it?
I rarely ever use anything other than ^S/^Q, except on a VTxxx terminal,
where I will in the odd instance use the "Hold Screen" key. I'll also
often use ^[ for ESC.
--
Eric Dittman
dittman(a)dittman.net
School Zones: Man's attempt to thwart natural selection.
How could you not know what its worth? If its yours then you know how much
its worth to "keep it" and thus anything more than that is a what its worth
for someone to take it off your hands. Now I can understand if you're
struggling with the issue of wanting to keep it but external forces such as
spouses, storage requirements etc, are forcing you to part with it. Then
the question of how much would it take before I would part with this jewel
becomes more difficult to answer.
If the question was actually, "However, I don't know what the maximum
amount of money a single individual would pay for this system in this
condition." Then the _only_ way to answer that question is to put it on
Ebay which has a reasonably large sample size of people who might be
interested in that system and are prepared to pay for it.
Finally, the meta-issue is, if you're actually asking the second question
then you shouldn't take it to a group of like minded individuals swapping
"junk." You'll never get the "Ebay price" at a hamfest or a boot sale or
junkfest, the market segment is large enough and there is generally no
mechanism for adjusting the price dynamically.
--Chuck
At 08:12 AM 8/12/01 -0400, you wrote:
> I have computer that's mounted in box that's slightly larger than a
> shoebox that contains a PDP-11/23 CPU, 8" floppy drive, hard drive along
> with RAM, I/O etc. It has RSX-11M installed. I'm debating bringing it to
> the junk fest. However I have no idea what it's worth.
> Joe
Greetings:
I've volunteered to have the Junk Fest on the property where my computer shop
is. I'm looking forward to it and hope that it's successful enough to happen
again on a regular basis (either at my place or somewhere else). Central
Florida needs more of this kind of action, IMHO, and I'm glad to be able to
help.
For those who aren't aware, this event will take place on Saturday, Sept. 8,
starting at 9 AM.
I'd like to ask everyone who's planning on bringing stuff for sale, trade,
etc. to email me ASAP so that I have some idea how many of you there are. DO
NOT email to my return address, but to acme_ent(a)bellsouth.net. Upon receipt
of your email I'll drop you a note including exact directions to the shop.
I'd also like to ask that everyone keep the PC-related items to a minimum:
please don't bring a van full of 386s (and if you do, please don't abandon
them -- or anything else --in my parking lot after the event is over). Also,
DON'T arrive expecting to sell brand-new PC items, since this is what I sell
in my store and I don't need the competition ;>)
Hopefully we'll have a nice crowd and a lot of fun. Please send your
comments, suggestions, gripes, etc., to my bellsouth.net address.
Regards,
Glen
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