test-drb July 2001

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OT oil shortage was: Celebration (Not intended to be off ensive, possible humor)

by David.Neal＠ubsw.com

bit out of my field, but there's no reason we can't run cars' on biodiesel. Renewable fuel source with fewer pollutants. I'm currently running my Peugeot on recycled chip fat oil, which I get free from the local chippie ( they have to pay for theirs to be removed as it's an 'industrial waste' and hence were more than happy for some bod to come along a offer to take it away for free ). Cheers D -----Original Message----- From: rigdonj Sent: 09 July 2001 14:25 To: classiccmp Cc: rigdonj Subject: Re: OT oil shortage was: Celebration (Not intended to be offensive, possible humor) Sorry for continuing this thread but I couldn't let this one pass! At 03:00 PM 7/8/01 -0400, Chad wrote: >Joe, > >I originally meant to send this a few days ago. I wrote it off-line and >it has been sitting in my out-box, but here goes :-) > >I don't think "crisis" is quite accurate. The oil industry has had >several refineries burn, and who knows, maybe some of them are old or >undersize. I think you need to do your home work. The oil companies have been shutting down refineries. They've shutdown almost 30% of the refineries in this country in the last ten years. > They may need to build more. or rebuild burned ones. The >electricity problems comes from growing and growing use, without >appropriate updates on the power system. That's very true but the problems with the electrical power industry are due to a shortage of generating stations (particularly in California) and has NOTHING to do with oil refinery capacity or any supposed oil shortage. >Drilling in new locations isn't supposed to increase refinery capacity. >It is part of a longer range solution. Horseshit! They're closing down wells everyday and have been for years! Take a drive through Lousianna sometime! I was in Alaska a couple of years ago and toured nearly the full length of the Alaskan pipeline. Even it's only running at about 40% of it's capacity. The only reason that they want to drill in ANWAR and GOM is because the oil companies want a CHEAPER source of oil so they can increase their already record profits! That's the same reason that the US continues to import oil from the middle east. Even with their price increases it's still cheaper to buy their oil than it is to produce our own. If the government is serious about a "long range solutions" then they should mandate that ALL cars achive 30mpg by say 2006, then raise it to 35mpg by 2011, then 40 mpg by 2016, etc until we achive the best practicle mileage. 50 mpg is very possible, a number of standard production cars have already achived it. That's only one step, there are hundreds if not thousands of other practicle solutions. Another solution would be to mandate solar hot water heaters in all homes. I have one in my home and it's been my only source of hot water for over 15 years and I've never run out of hot water. > Drilling in new locations is >something a lot of countries are doing. Sure, because they all want to be independent of foreign sources and because it's a huge source of revenue. > Drilling in the North Sea is >being done now, or maybe deeper water than normal..... I don't recall. >I have seen a show on Discovery or TLC about the building of the >platform. It was a huge engineering feat the way they built it. Yes, the engineering is impressive but again that has nothing to do with the "nessesicity" for drilling in ANWAR or GOM. >Personally, I'd like to see a move away from oil, not totally, but maybe >a diversification. I'd like to see cars powered by grain alcohol, >although I admit, I don't really know any specifics. I know a good bit about alcohol powered vehicles, I've been experimenting with them since the late 60s. Alcohol is not nearly as powerfull, cost effective or as efficient as gasoline. Alcohol also has major incompatibilities with the components of automotive fuel systems. A number of companies have tried selling gasoline with alcohol added but AFIK they're all dropped it due to the cost, performance and other problems. > Something might >have to be done about people drinking the contents of ones gas tank :-) That would cure the population problem! Nearly all of the alcohol sold in this country, including that used in fuel, is either nearly pure methyl alcohol or has methyl alcohol, formaldahyde or other poisons added to it to "de-nature" it. "De-natured" is a polite way of saying that it's poisonous! The government requires that expressly so that people won't be able to drink it. Let's burn gasoline in our cars (at least till something better comes along) and save the grain alcohol for drinking! Joe Visit our website at http://www.ubswarburg.com This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments.

23 years, 5 months

HP Exemplar

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Um, I guess that depends on if you like supercomputers or not... So personally, I'd say you missed out.. Will J _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

23 years, 5 months

Fwd: A Few Good Lessons was:Re: OT: Stupid discussions about Dick's silly ideas

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

On Sun, 8 Jul 2001, Richard Erlacher wrote: On Sun, 8 Jul 2001, Sellam wrote: On Sun, 8 Jul 2001, Richard Erlacher wrote: On Sun, 8 Jul 2001, Sellam wrote: OK it's time to stop this pointless bickering. Here's something else to think about. I particularly like the one at the end of the lesson. Joe >Lesson Number One >A crow was sitting on a tree, doing nothing all day. A small rabbit saw >the crow, and asked him, "Can I also sit like you and do nothing all day >long?" The crow answered: "Sure, why not." So, the rabbit sat on the ground >below the crow, and rested. All of a sudden, a fox appeared, jumped on the >rabbit and ate it. >Management Lesson: To be sitting and doing nothing, you must be sitting >very, very high up. > >Lesson Number Two >A turkey was chatting with a bull. "I would love to be able to get to the >top of that tree," sighed the turkey, "but I haven't got the energy." "Well, >why don't you nibble on some of my droppings?" replied the bull. "They're >packed with Nutrients." The turkey pecked at a lump of dung and found that >it actually gave him enough strength to reach the first branch of the tree. >The next day, after eating some more dung, he reached the second branch. >Finally after a fourth night, there he was proudly perched at the top of the >Tree. Soon he was promptly spotted by a farmer, who shot the turkey out of >the tree. >Management Lesson: Bull crap might get you to the top, but it won't keep >you there. > >Lesson Number Three >When the body was first made, all the parts wanted to be Boss. The brain >said, "I should be Boss because I control the whole body's responses and >functions." The feet said, "We should be Boss as we carry the brain about >and get him to where he wants to go." The hands said, "We should be the Boss >because we do all the work and earn all the money." And so it went on and >on with the heart, the lungs and the eyes until finally the asshole spoke >up. All the parts laughed at the idea of the asshole being the Boss. So the >asshole went on strike, blocked itself up and refused to work. Within a >short time the eyes became crossed, the hands clenched, the feet twitched, >the heart and lungs began to panic and the brain fevered. Eventually they >all decided that the asshole should be the Boss, so the motion was passed. >All the other parts did all the work while the Boss just sat and passed out >the crap! >Management Lesson: You don't need brains to be a Boss - any asshole will >do. > >Lesson Number Four >A little bird was flying south for the winter. It was so cold, the bird >froze and fell to the ground in a large field. While it was lying there, a >cow came by and dropped some dung on it. As the frozen bird lay there in >the pile of cow dung, it began to realize how warm it was. The dung was >actually thawing him out! He lay there all warm and happy, and soon began to >sing for joy. A passing cat heard the bird singing and came to >investigate. Following the sound, the cat discovered the bird under the >pile of cow dung, and promptly dug him out and ate him! >Management Lesson: >1) Not everyone who craps on you is your enemy. >2) Not everyone who gets you out of crap is your friend. >3) And when you're in deep doodoo, keep your mouth shut! > >END OF LESSON! > >Sometimes a majority means that all the fools are on one side.

23 years, 5 months

OT oil shortage was: Celebration (Not intended to be off ensive, possible humor)

by David.Neal＠ubsw.com

Well, yes. Strain out the bits, add some cheap, freely available chem's ( mainly to form the chemical chains ), then dump the crap in the tank and drive off, all in the back yard. Smells of a chip shop too. BioDiesel is really the term used for stuff like processed rape seed oil and the like. Currently ( in the UK ) this is taxed at a lower rate than oil based fossil fuel, but not as low as LPG, even though it's renewable. Believe other 'oil' planet can be used too, not sure of yield or processing requirements. -----Original Message----- From: fernande Sent: 09 July 2001 15:42 To: classiccmp Cc: fernande Subject: Re: OT oil shortage was: Celebration (Not intended to be off ensive, possible humor) I'm not sure what you mean..... are you saying you run your car on the oil that potatoe chips are cooked in?? Isn't it kind of thick? Is that what you are calling,"biodiesel"? Chad Fernandez Michigan, USA David.Neal(a)ubsw.com wrote: > > bit out of my field, but there's no reason we can't run cars' on > biodiesel. Renewable fuel source with fewer pollutants. I'm currently > running my Peugeot on recycled chip fat oil, which I get free from the > local chippie ( they have to pay for theirs to be removed as it's an > 'industrial waste' and hence were more than happy for some bod to come > along a offer to take it away for free ). > > Cheers > > D Visit our website at http://www.ubswarburg.com This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments.

23 years, 5 months

(fwd) Windows 286 and Lotus 123 for DOS 3.4 Upgrade

by bill_r＠inetnebr.com

If anyone has any interest in this stuff, please contact this gentleman directly. On Sun, 8 Jul 2001 15:25:14 -0500, "Jonathan Stirrup" <jon_on_server(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >Bill, > > My name is Jon. I was rooting through some old junk and low and behold I >found an unopened Windows/286 and an unopened Lotus 123 for DOS 3.4 Upgrade. >I know a lot about current software, but I am a novice at old software. I >search on the internet for information on the Windows/286 and came across >your page. I have no Idea if I may stumbled onto something collectable or >not. Any opinion? Thanks. > >Regards, > >Jon > > >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Bill Richman bill_r(a)inetnebr.com http://incolor.inetnebr.com/bill_r Home of Fun with Molten Metal, technological oddities, and the original COSMAC Elf computer simulator!

23 years, 5 months

The Computer Journal

by alm＠door.amresearch.com

No intent to defraud? Could have fooled me! When TCJ was owned by Bill Kibler they processed our credit card transactions, we were only a few miles apart and both Forthies. After Dave Baldwin took over TCJ my cost went up so we discouraged credit card transactions and only took a few overseas or medium-sized. I had/have complete trust and faith in Bill Kibler. He's an honorable man so I didn't follow things as well as I might have otherwise. Before too long Dave Baldwin owed me about two kilobucks and was months behind in reimbursement. Repeated telephone calls elicited, "I'm fine, you'll get your money." It never happened, the miserable piece of shit embezzled a lot of money from us. I doubt if you'll ever see another issue or get a penny back. Here's his local address and telephone numbers if you want to contact him directly: David Baldwin 6619 Westbrook Drive P.O. Box 3900 Citrus Heights, CA 95621 TCJ 722-4970 FAX 722-7480 DIBS 733-3877 BBS 722-5799 Feel free to abuse him and share my going public with his criminal activities. Regrettably the local sheriff tried to resolve things and got a small payment so the DA now refuses to prosecute because that legally turned the theft into a loan. Doesn't pay to be a nice guy, huh? -- Regards, Albert ------------------------------------------------- AM Research, Inc. The Embedded Systems Experts http://www.amresearch.com (800) 949-8051 -------------------------------------------------

23 years, 5 months

OT Celebration (Not intended to be offensive, possible humor)

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

Joe writes > Wrong! Puerto Rico is going to be the 51st state. Canada will be the >52nd. (We have to keep our priorities straight.) :-) > > Joe I thought Canada was a province or is it a colony? :) What does it take to upgrade from a province or a colony to be a US state? I think they meet the basic requirements 1. Beer 2. Speak English (sort of) 3. Dollars Now that I think about it, Utah may fail on the Beer part. Kick out Utah, replace with Canada. (Remember it's attempted humor) Mike

23 years, 5 months

BA440 Backplane

by dittman＠dittman.net

Does anyone have the part numbers for the new and old BA440 backplanes? If so, is "5019353-01 K2P1 54-19354" a new or old backplane? -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net

23 years, 5 months

SGI Indy2

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On July 8, Zane H. Healy wrote: > Depends if it is all there, including the OS, and the media for the OS. > Still not a whole lot. Indy's are pretty slow. It's the Indigo2's that I've an Indy with a 200MHz R4400 that's anything but slow. Granted the majority of them have crappy R4000s or R4600s, but beefier R4400 or R5000 machines are around. -Dave McGuire

23 years, 5 months

X-10 (was Re: controlling power)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0106261847000.21999-100000(a)lanshark.lanminds.com> <3B491E60.6D30BA7E(a)greenbelt.com> <3B4942A8.EC83EA35(a)home.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid FCC: ~/Mail/sent-mail On July 9, Neil Cherry wrote: > X10 was marketed to Radio Shack in 1978 and the first review of it was > in 1979. So it's a lot closer to 22 years old. Motorola had limited > produced the 6809 in 78/79 (no where near '71). Wasn't this issue > cleared up before? I think Don just missed a digit by one. X10 was originally marketed by BSR, if memory serves. -Dave McGuire

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