test-drb July 2001

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by MTPro＠aol.com

<< From: Jim Davis <jimdavis(a)gorge.net> Subject: Re: Off Topic Crap - Stop It Now! Bwahahaha, This from someone who rips apart computers for wall hangings and office trophies, then spams his "products" on multiple newsgroups. Piss off AOL boy. >> Everyone, just to clarify, I have never torn apart any computer. I have about a dozen and a half original Mac logic boards which I have sourced over the years from smalltime and major Apple dealers. All were sold to me as specifically inoperable or in an unknown operational condition. So far, I have only framed a few of them and sold them as historical computer art. The original Mac logic board is a nice example of an integrated board which contains all of the main components of the personal computer - cpu, RAM, ROM, disk controllers, other I/O, etc. I will be selling a few of these at the VCF East and they may or may not go over. I see no problem with this, some of you may. But, either way, I have more respect for older computers than to destroy them. I use AOL. But, let's say I also choose to be a Catholic. Let's say I choose to drive a Ford. Let's say I like the Washington Redskins. For anyone who thought that Jim's comments were appropriate, I'll help you out: Piss off Catholic boy! Piss off Ford boy! Piss off Redskin's boy! This kind of prejudice is not funny. And, prejudice is prejudice, even if directed at personal choices versus attributes born with. Thank you, David

23 years, 5 months

Wanted : SCSI 9-track tape unit

by stefan＠softhome.net

Hi fellow collectors, Does anybody have a SCSI 9-track tape unit they would be willing to part with ? I prefer as close to The Netherlands as possible but any offers are welcome. Thanks. Stefan Mansier.

23 years, 5 months

OT oil shortage was: Celebration (Not intended to be off ensive, possible humor)

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

> That's great. That's exact the kind of inventiveness that is needed > to solve the energy crisis. However I think you'll agree that it would > be rediculous to require that ALL cars run on chip oil. To Chad and others, yes this is the same oil used to fry french fries at McDonalds etc. And yes you can run your diesel engine on it. Diesels will burn most anything that can be flowed through them. A friend of mine did this (put a combination of vegetable oil and a thinner) into his car when he went in for his California emissions check. Since vegetable oil breaks down into slightly different components he really confused the guys but he passed! Building a methanol digester is probably the best. --Chuck

23 years, 5 months

Denver Finds -- still avail

by mauger＠senet.com.au

Hi, I'm interested in finding someone who might have experience in downloading data from an old NEC APC to a current Pentium machine. Alan Mauger mauger(a)senet.com.au

23 years, 5 months

DC-30 tape ??

by kristiehahn＠hotmail.com

DO YOU STILL HAVE THEM???

23 years, 5 months

SGI Indy2

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jul 8, 18:59, geoffr wrote: > Wht is one worth? (roughly) A lot, because it would be unique. I think you mean an Indigo2 :-) There are Indigos, Indigo2s, and Indys, but no Indy2. The value will depend on the graphics option(s), the processor, and to a lesser extent on the memory and the disks. I bought a low-spec one a few months ago for ?50, without keyboard, disk, or drive sled. One with the fanciest graphics and a fast processor could outperform most PCs for some types of 3D work, and would be worth 5-10 times as much as mine. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

23 years, 5 months

HP Exemplar (excuse me!)

by ndiablo＠diablonet.net

As someone probably noticed already, the HP/Convex Exemplar series of machines were actually SMP, rather than MPP, supercomputers. My apologies! Another aside, if anyone was curious, the name of that proprietary UNIX that they ran was SPP-UX. --Sean Caron (root(a)diablonet.net) | http://www.diablonet.net

23 years, 5 months

OT oil shortage was: Celebration (Not intended to be of f ensive, possible humor)

by David.Neal＠ubsw.com

very true, fossil oil will remain the dominant fuel for the forseeable ( until the end of my lifetime anyway ) future. However, if you've got a couple of acres ( not yet ) or live in the middle of a couple of chip fat users ( I do ) it is possible to a - actually do something for the environment whilst still having a life with the outside world. b - live a damn site more cheaply than previously ( we're also looking into oil fired heating/cooking ). c - stuff the UK government for the tax ( which is pretty bad over here in the UK ). You're also right about it not being viable to demand every car to run on old chip fat. Granted and very true. I'm just lucky enough to have stumbled accross the receipe, be dumb enough to give it a bash ( wife wondered for around a week what the smell was before I told her ) and have some local shops be prepared to let me have their 'waste'. It's also helping them reduce their costs ( they don't have to pay for the oil to be taken away ). Finally, and I don't want this to turn into a great big 'green' rave ( this *is* classic computing after all ), I can't see any issue with using bioD is any form. If it drives up the demand for oil based plants ( and I guess this goes the same for wood and ethanol ( right one ? ) ), then more places will grow it. If more places grow it there will be more of the carbon sinks the US are so fond of touting as their reason not to ratify the Kyoto thingie ( falme war ahead, beware ). As someone who is now quite happily self suff. in transport fuel and hopefully domestic fuel shortly, it doesn't bother me whether other people take up bioD. I wish they would as I think it would be a better idea than drilling more holes in the only place we've got. Mmmm, said too much already, I can hear the white coats being unrapped as we speak ;-) Anyway, about this VAX I've got ...... Have fun D -----Original Message----- From: rigdonj Sent: 09 July 2001 16:00 To: classiccmp Cc: rigdonj Subject: RE: Re: OT oil shortage was: Celebration (Not intended to be off ensive, possible humor) At 02:57 PM 7/9/01 +0100, David wrote: >bit out of my field, but there's no reason we can't run cars' on >biodiesel. Renewable fuel source with fewer pollutants. I'm currently >running my Peugeot on recycled chip fat oil, which I get free from the >local chippie ( they have to pay for theirs to be removed as it's an >'industrial waste' and hence were more than happy for some bod to come >along a offer to take it away for free ). That's great. That's exact the kind of inventiveness that is needed to solve the energy crisis. However I think you'll agree that it would be rediculous to require that ALL cars run on chip oil. There simply isn't enough of it around. That's the same problem with alcohol, there isn't enough for it to be a viable fuel source. Yes, we could make more but at what price and with what kind of sacrifices? (more grain used to produce alcohol = less grain for food producton = higher food prices). Like it or not, gasoline will remain the major fuel source for the forseeable future. Joe Visit our website at http://www.ubswarburg.com This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments.

23 years, 5 months

HP Exemplar

by ndiablo＠diablonet.net

The Exemplar was a MPP supercomputer based upon the PA-RISC chip produced by Convex, which is now owned by HP. It ran a proprietary version of UNIX. It's probably not the rarest thing in the world, but I wouldn't mind having one around. How often do you get the chance to have a supercomputer around the house? :) --Sean Caron (root(a)diablonet.net) | http://www.diablonet.net

23 years, 5 months

Best ways to drive a Tektronix terminal?

by Innfogra＠aol.com

What model George? Your description fits many of the Tek monsters, but I think the earliest is the 4010 IIRC. This would be a great terminal to save, there are few now. Most all Tek terminals used a serial port and 4010 graphics I think. My books are still packed away from the move. Paxton Astoria, Oregon

23 years, 5 months

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test-drb July 2001