test-drb July 2001

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301 participants
824 discussions

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Um, how are the 8X305 and the PIC related? Totally different companies, and the 8X300 (which the 8X305 is descended from), is older than the original PIC, to the best of my knowledge... PIC = General Instruments, while 8X300 = SMS, later bought by Signetics.. or the 2650 was the SMS chip, at any rate, it was a Signetics chip.. Will J _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

23 years, 5 months

ClassicCmp Survivor Series!

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

> What if there is one or more names of God of infinite length? > Then it wouldn't have been a name that could be known. Which was, ISTR, part of the story. Lee. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- This email is intended only for the above named addressee(s). The information contained in this email may contain information which is confidential. The views expressed in this email are personal to the sender and do not in any way reflect the views of the company. If you have received this email and you are not a named addressee please delete it from your system and contact Merlin Communications International IT Department on +44 20 7344 5888. _____________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service.

23 years, 5 months

Any IBM S/360 model 30 on this globe (fwd)

by thompson＠mail.athenet.net

Reply to original author... -- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 12:45:59 +0200 From: Henk Stegeman <Henk.J.Stegeman(a)is.shell.com> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Subject: Any IBM S/360 model 30 on this globe Resent-Subject: Any IBM S/360 model 30 on this globe Hi, I have an old IBM S/360 model 30 front panel and I started a project to bring this panel back to live. I wrote an emulator on Linux which emulates S/360 model 30 micro-code instructions. You read this correctly: micro-code instruction, not S/360 instructions. The emulator is now finished and has already executed successfully some micro-code instructions which I copied out of the Field Engineering Theory of Operation Manual (FETOM). I need a complete copy of all the IBM CLD pages to implement the full micro-code set needed for the whole S/360 instruction set. I am now searching for any remaining IBM S/360 models 30 or 22 on this globe (privately or museum). Who can help me ? I know that the Computer Museum at Mountain View and the IBM Museum in Endicott have a model 30 but unfortunately without documentation. Any hint, tips or leads are welcome ! Regards Henk Henk.j.stegeman(a)is.shell.com

23 years, 5 months

B+H IRIS boards

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

I recently found some Bell+Howell Iris boards in the dumpster behind a local computer repair place. They are 3 piggyback boards that fit in two PC(?) slots. One board is labeled "CPU" and has socketed TI 34010 Graphics Processor, socketed Bt454KPJ170 chip, a boot EPROM, and two different sets of 32 RAM chips (511000P-10 and D41264V-15). The EPROM is (c) 1986, the boards 1987 and 1988. There is a coax connector off the first board. The second board is labeled "Iris Printer/Scanner" and has a 26 pin header. The third board, which has a SCSI port, is labeled "Iris Decomp". Since these boards are sandwiched close to the first, I cannot see what is on them without taking them apart. I have 4 complete boards and one without the 2 socketed chips. Does anyone want one/more of them? You can have one for the cost of shipping. They weigh just over 2 pounds, so shipping would be $5.00 or a bit more. I gather that they are some sort of scanner interface/processor, but does anyone know more about them? Bob Feldman

23 years, 5 months

FT: BIG HAUL of MAINDEC paper tapes and DEC engineering drawings

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

I just got in everything below. However, I have no use for / cant read the paper tapes, and the engineering drawings should go to someone who actually has the hardware and can use them. I'd like to trade off any/all of the following for other PDP-11 systems and gear, alternately for RAM or a G3 upgrade for a PowerMac 7600. I have yet to obtain a full "old style" -11 with the full blinkylighten front panel.. Not interested in making a profit, just trying to trade what I've got for excess hardware someone else might have... If interested in any of the below, please email me at mrbill(a)pdp11.org. Bill Paper Tapes: ------------ Tapes that have (looks new) came out of what appeared to be the original envelopes from DEC, and looked completely unused. as "new" as they can be after almost 30 years, I guess. Otherwise, tapes are in "good used" or "excellent" condition, as far as I can tell - I've never used a paper-tape reader. Most of these tapes are older than I am. 8-) PN Date Desc. -------------------------------------- (loose tapes, bound with rubber bands) MAINDEC-11-DZDLB-A-PB 7/23/75 DL11-E ON LINE TEST MAINDEC-11-DCKB2-A-PB 1/10/73 PDP-11/45 CONSOLE SWITCHES TEST MAINDEC-11-DCMFA-B-PB 5/11/73 COMBINED MOS (MS-11) & CORE (MF-11-LP, MALL-P) PARITY TESTS MAINDEC-11-DZKWA-A-PB 5/10/72 LINE FREQUENCY CLOCK TESTS (looks new) MAINDEC-11-DZLAB-A-PB 7/1972 LC11/LA30 TERMINAL TESTS (looks new) MAINDEC-11-DZITA-A-PB 11/12/75 INTERPROCESSOR TEST PROGRAM (looks new) MAINDEC-11-DZDLD-B-PB 10/27/75 DL11 OVERLAY FOR INTERPROCESSOR TEST PROGRAM (looks new) MAINDEC-11-DZDLB-A-PB 10/31/75 DL11-E ON LINE TEST (looks new) MAINDEC-11-DZDLC-A-PB 10/31/75 DL11-C,D, OR E OFF LINE TEST (looks new) (tapes in either a blue plastic tape carrier or plastic "holders" of some sort, excellent condition) MAINDEC-11-DCKBC-A-PB 3/15/72 XOR INSTRUCTION MAINDEC-11-DCKBR-B-PB 8/73 11/40-11/45 CPU PARITY TEST MAINDEC-11-DLAA-PB 3/30/70 BASIC ADDRESS TEST (UP) MAINDEC-11-DZMME-B-PB 10/11/72 MEMORY MOVING ONES AND ZEROES TEST MAINDEC-11-DZMMI-A-PB 5/15/72 RANDAT MAINDEC-11-DZMMJ-A-B 4/26/72 PDP-11 8K MEMORY SPECIAL MAINDEC-11-DZQMA-D-PB 8/14/72 MEMORY I/O EXERCISER MAINDEC-11-DZMMK-A-PB 6/7/72 UP-DOWN ADDRESS TEST MAINDEC-11-DDGTG-A-PB 11/26/75 GT40/GT44 VISUAL DISPLAY TEST W/VR17 DISPLAY MAINDEC-11-DDGTE-B-PB 11/26/75 GT40 QUICK VERIFY TEST MAINDEC-11-DDGTD-B-PB 11/26/75 GT40 ROM VERIFY TEST MAINDEC-11-DDGTC-B-PB 11/26/75 GT40/GT44 VISUAL DISPLAY TEST w/VR14 DISPLAY MAINDEC-11-DDGTA-C-PB 11/26/75 GT40/GT44 INSTRUCTION TEST I MAINDEC-11-DDGTB-C-PB 11/26/75 GT40/GT44 INSTRUCTION TEST II MAINDEC-11-DZDLB-A-PB 11/26/75 DL11-E ON LINE TEST MAINDEC-11-DZDLC-A-PB 11/26/75 DL11-C,D, & E OFF LINE TEST MAINDEC-11-DXQLJ-B-PR 1/27/76 DEC/X11 11/70 MONITOR LIBRARY MAINDEC-11-DXQLA-E1-PR 1/23/76 DEC/X11 MONITOR LIBRARY #1 MAINDEC-11-DXQLD-I-PR 1/23/76 DEC/X11 COMMUNICATIONS OPTIONS LIBRARY #1 MAINDEC-11-DXQLE-E-PR 1/27/76 DEC/X11 COMMUNICATIONS OPTIONS LIBRARY #2 MAINDEC-11-DXQAD-F-PB 1/23/76 DEC/X11 CONFIGURATOR PROGRAM MAINDEC-11-DXQLB-H-PR 1/23/76 DEC/X11 GENERAL PRODUCTS LIBRARY #1 MAINDEC-11-DXQLC-H1-PR 1/23/76 DEC/X11 GENERAL PRODUCTS LIBRARY #2 MAINDEC-11-DXQLF-E-PR 1/23/76 LAB & INDUSTRIAL OPTIONS MODULE LIBRARY #1 MAINDEC-11-DXQLG-G-PR 1/23/76 LAB & INDUSTRIAL OPTIONS MODULE LIBRARY #2 MAINDEC-11-DXGLH-G1-PR 1/16/76 DEC/X11 NEW OPTIONS MODULE LIBRARY #1 Engineering drawing print sets: ------------------------------- 98% of these are originals, altho some are loose-pages instead of being bound or stapled together. I'm pretty sure everything is complete sets, with some duplicates in fact. Almost everything also has the yellow "print change" sheets with it as well (I guess thats what those are; I havent spent more than 10 minutes looking at them yet). FP11-B RK11-D TM-11 PDP-11/45 RK-05 RK-11D LPS-11-S LA30 VT11 DL11 MF11 LPS-11 G728 BC05P BC05N GT40 M7015 RP11-C H223 TU10A LA36 KT11-C MF11-LP G235 VR14 DR11-C DD11-C -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

23 years, 5 months

4th of July Hypocricy (was: OT Celebration)

by Glenatacme＠aol.com

In a message dated 7/9/01 8:33:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, rigdonj(a)intellistar.net writes: > Florida recently dropped their motorcycle helmet law too. Or rather > you don't hav eto wear a helmet if you have insurance. If you don't have > insurance then you still have to wear a helmet. Joe, what type of insurance are you referring to? AFAIK insurance is required for motorcycles same as it is for cars here in FL. IMHO it's crazy to be on a motorcycle without a helmet, so why not just abandon the helmet requirement and let Darwin have the last word . . . Glen 0/0

23 years, 5 months

ClassicCmp Survivor Series!

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Don't be the first to get voted off the mailing list!!!! > > 1 Million '386 PCs for the last person to get voted off :) I've been ignoring the off-topic rants- I hope there is *not* a serious discussion regarding voting someone off the list... even though it might be fun to kid about. My reasoning being, democracy becomes majoritarianism just prior to its becoming fascism... Regards, -doug q p.s. I really need all 1 million of those 386s for the Hypercube I'm thinking of building (just to bring it back on-topic...)

23 years, 5 months

Sparcserver 490 (was: getting cards out of a Sparcserver 470)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On July 9, jkunz(a)unixag-kl.fh-kl.de wrote: > Some recent version (maybe 1.5, at least -current) of NetBSD will run on > that beast, but the best choice would be SunOs 4.1.3 That is the OS > this machine was build for. Is is a decent 4.2BSD UNIX derivate with > 4.3BSD and SysV enhancements. For SunOS, I'd suggest 4.1.4. Very recent NetBSD will run nicely on that machine as well. -Dave McGuire

23 years, 5 months

Sparcserver 490 (was: getting cards out of a Sparcserver 470)

by kfergaso＠swbell.net

I've never heard of 4.1.4_U1, so if anyone has that, I would like to see it. Sun put out a 4.1.3_U1, and then 4.1.4. The companies I have worked at all had software support, so I believe I would have seen a _U1, but you never know. Kelly Hi Dave McGuire, you wrote on 7/9/01 4:37:48 PM: > > I thought it was 4.0.3, but it may be 4.0.2.. > > -Dave McGuire > >On July 9, Sridhar Ayengar wrote: > > And 4.0.2 was the last for Roadrunners, right? > > Peace... Sridhar > > On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Dave McGuire wrote: > > > On July 9, jkunz(a)unixag-kl.fh-kl.de wrote: > > > > For SunOS, I'd suggest 4.1.4. > > > I thought 4.1.3 was the end of the flagstaff? Or was that Sun3 only? > > > > 4.1.1_U1 was the last for the Sun3 > > 4.1.4_U1 was the last for SPARC > > > > -Dave McGuire > >

23 years, 5 months

PLATO Gallery (Was: RE: PLATO IV Terminal Update)

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Douglas, > > It should be CDC, several guys from CDC left and came to Atari at one > point to work in the Home Computer Division (1982-1984) and among their > projects were computers with built in modems for communications and also the > Plato Terminal Cartridge for the Atari 8bit computer systems. When the > service was running I used to logon, it was amazing to see the color > graphics and animation, all well before the advent of Mosiac and "the web" While CDC provided the mainframe hardware support, Donald Bitzer at the University of Illinois created PLATO. Around 1981, UofI and CDC parted ways, with both retaining ownership of PLATO. But every piece of CDC equipment I've ever said had the distinctive style of CDC equipment design, and the PLATO plasma display terminal didn't have the CDC look. Seems I vaguely recall being told 25 years ago that they were indeed made by Magnavox. PLATO still lives, you know, at least the UofI version does, as NovaNET. I've been granted access to NovaNET as a "distinguished visiting scholar". I've put a gallery of PLATO scren shots at: http://members.iglou.com/dougq/cdc/post-login.jpg http://members.iglou.com/dougq/cdc/llist-index.jpg http://members.iglou.com/dougq/cdc/recreation.jpg http://members.iglou.com/dougq/cdc/choose.jpg and then a more complete gallery at: http://members.iglou.com/dougq/plato_index.html that brings you to a page that has thumbnails of the entire gallery. If you're on a slow link, you may want to jump straight to the first frame: http://members.iglou.com/dougq/plato/html/PlatoIV-00.html then you can "press" "Next" each frame to advance to the next. This way, it plays back a little bit like it looked on screen, except the tiny amount of animation the lesson provides can't be seen on these pages. I have a second gallery, showing the multi-user game EMPIRE, but right now I'm shy of space to upload it. Regards, -doug quebbeman

23 years, 5 months

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test-drb July 2001