Um, how are the 8X305 and the PIC related? Totally different companies, and
the 8X300 (which the 8X305 is descended from), is older than the original
PIC, to the best of my knowledge... PIC = General Instruments, while 8X300 =
SMS, later bought by Signetics.. or the 2650 was the SMS chip, at any rate,
it was a Signetics chip..
Will J
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Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 12:45:59 +0200
From: Henk Stegeman <Henk.J.Stegeman(a)is.shell.com>
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Subject: Any IBM S/360 model 30 on this globe
Resent-Subject: Any IBM S/360 model 30 on this globe
Hi,
I have an old IBM S/360 model 30 front panel and I started
a project to bring this panel back to live.
I wrote an emulator on Linux which emulates S/360 model 30 micro-code
instructions.
You read this correctly: micro-code instruction, not S/360 instructions.
The emulator is now finished and has already executed successfully some
micro-code instructions which I copied out of the Field Engineering Theory
of Operation
Manual (FETOM).
I need a complete copy of all the IBM CLD pages to implement the
full micro-code set needed for the whole S/360 instruction set.
I am now searching for any remaining IBM S/360 models 30 or 22 on this
globe (privately or museum).
Who can help me ?
I know that the Computer Museum at Mountain View and the IBM Museum in
Endicott
have a model 30 but unfortunately without documentation.
Any hint, tips or leads are welcome !
Regards
Henk
Henk.j.stegeman(a)is.shell.com
I recently found some Bell+Howell Iris boards in the dumpster behind a local
computer repair place. They are 3 piggyback boards that fit in two PC(?)
slots. One board is labeled "CPU" and has socketed TI 34010 Graphics
Processor, socketed Bt454KPJ170 chip, a boot EPROM, and two different sets
of 32 RAM chips (511000P-10 and D41264V-15). The EPROM is (c) 1986, the
boards 1987 and 1988. There is a coax connector off the first board. The
second board is labeled "Iris Printer/Scanner" and has a 26 pin header. The
third board, which has a SCSI port, is labeled "Iris Decomp". Since these
boards are sandwiched close to the first, I cannot see what is on them
without taking them apart.
I have 4 complete boards and one without the 2 socketed chips.
Does anyone want one/more of them? You can have one for the cost of
shipping. They weigh just over 2 pounds, so shipping would be $5.00 or a bit
more.
I gather that they are some sort of scanner interface/processor, but does
anyone know more about them?
Bob Feldman
I just got in everything below. However, I have no use for / cant
read the paper tapes, and the engineering drawings should go to someone
who actually has the hardware and can use them. I'd like to trade off
any/all of the following for other PDP-11 systems and gear, alternately
for RAM or a G3 upgrade for a PowerMac 7600. I have yet to obtain a
full "old style" -11 with the full blinkylighten front panel..
Not interested in making a profit, just trying to trade what I've got for
excess hardware someone else might have...
If interested in any of the below, please email me at mrbill(a)pdp11.org.
Bill
Paper Tapes:
------------
Tapes that have (looks new) came out of what appeared to be the original
envelopes from DEC, and looked completely unused. as "new" as they can
be after almost 30 years, I guess. Otherwise, tapes are in "good used"
or "excellent" condition, as far as I can tell - I've never used a
paper-tape reader.
Most of these tapes are older than I am. 8-)
PN Date Desc.
--------------------------------------
(loose tapes, bound with rubber bands)
MAINDEC-11-DZDLB-A-PB 7/23/75 DL11-E ON LINE TEST
MAINDEC-11-DCKB2-A-PB 1/10/73 PDP-11/45 CONSOLE SWITCHES TEST
MAINDEC-11-DCMFA-B-PB 5/11/73 COMBINED MOS (MS-11) & CORE
(MF-11-LP, MALL-P) PARITY TESTS
MAINDEC-11-DZKWA-A-PB 5/10/72 LINE FREQUENCY CLOCK TESTS (looks new)
MAINDEC-11-DZLAB-A-PB 7/1972 LC11/LA30 TERMINAL TESTS (looks new)
MAINDEC-11-DZITA-A-PB 11/12/75 INTERPROCESSOR TEST PROGRAM (looks new)
MAINDEC-11-DZDLD-B-PB 10/27/75 DL11 OVERLAY FOR INTERPROCESSOR TEST PROGRAM
(looks new)
MAINDEC-11-DZDLB-A-PB 10/31/75 DL11-E ON LINE TEST (looks new)
MAINDEC-11-DZDLC-A-PB 10/31/75 DL11-C,D, OR E OFF LINE TEST (looks new)
(tapes in either a blue plastic tape carrier or plastic "holders" of some
sort, excellent condition)
MAINDEC-11-DCKBC-A-PB 3/15/72 XOR INSTRUCTION
MAINDEC-11-DCKBR-B-PB 8/73 11/40-11/45 CPU PARITY TEST
MAINDEC-11-DLAA-PB 3/30/70 BASIC ADDRESS TEST (UP)
MAINDEC-11-DZMME-B-PB 10/11/72 MEMORY MOVING ONES AND ZEROES TEST
MAINDEC-11-DZMMI-A-PB 5/15/72 RANDAT
MAINDEC-11-DZMMJ-A-B 4/26/72 PDP-11 8K MEMORY SPECIAL
MAINDEC-11-DZQMA-D-PB 8/14/72 MEMORY I/O EXERCISER
MAINDEC-11-DZMMK-A-PB 6/7/72 UP-DOWN ADDRESS TEST
MAINDEC-11-DDGTG-A-PB 11/26/75 GT40/GT44 VISUAL DISPLAY TEST W/VR17 DISPLAY
MAINDEC-11-DDGTE-B-PB 11/26/75 GT40 QUICK VERIFY TEST
MAINDEC-11-DDGTD-B-PB 11/26/75 GT40 ROM VERIFY TEST
MAINDEC-11-DDGTC-B-PB 11/26/75 GT40/GT44 VISUAL DISPLAY TEST w/VR14 DISPLAY
MAINDEC-11-DDGTA-C-PB 11/26/75 GT40/GT44 INSTRUCTION TEST I
MAINDEC-11-DDGTB-C-PB 11/26/75 GT40/GT44 INSTRUCTION TEST II
MAINDEC-11-DZDLB-A-PB 11/26/75 DL11-E ON LINE TEST
MAINDEC-11-DZDLC-A-PB 11/26/75 DL11-C,D, & E OFF LINE TEST
MAINDEC-11-DXQLJ-B-PR 1/27/76 DEC/X11 11/70 MONITOR LIBRARY
MAINDEC-11-DXQLA-E1-PR 1/23/76 DEC/X11 MONITOR LIBRARY #1
MAINDEC-11-DXQLD-I-PR 1/23/76 DEC/X11 COMMUNICATIONS OPTIONS LIBRARY #1
MAINDEC-11-DXQLE-E-PR 1/27/76 DEC/X11 COMMUNICATIONS OPTIONS LIBRARY #2
MAINDEC-11-DXQAD-F-PB 1/23/76 DEC/X11 CONFIGURATOR PROGRAM
MAINDEC-11-DXQLB-H-PR 1/23/76 DEC/X11 GENERAL PRODUCTS LIBRARY #1
MAINDEC-11-DXQLC-H1-PR 1/23/76 DEC/X11 GENERAL PRODUCTS LIBRARY #2
MAINDEC-11-DXQLF-E-PR 1/23/76 LAB & INDUSTRIAL OPTIONS MODULE LIBRARY #1
MAINDEC-11-DXQLG-G-PR 1/23/76 LAB & INDUSTRIAL OPTIONS MODULE LIBRARY #2
MAINDEC-11-DXGLH-G1-PR 1/16/76 DEC/X11 NEW OPTIONS MODULE LIBRARY #1
Engineering drawing print sets:
-------------------------------
98% of these are originals, altho some are loose-pages instead of
being bound or stapled together. I'm pretty sure everything is complete
sets, with some duplicates in fact. Almost everything also has the
yellow "print change" sheets with it as well (I guess thats what those
are; I havent spent more than 10 minutes looking at them yet).
FP11-B
RK11-D
TM-11
PDP-11/45
RK-05
RK-11D
LPS-11-S
LA30
VT11
DL11
MF11
LPS-11
G728
BC05P
BC05N
GT40
M7015
RP11-C
H223
TU10A
LA36
KT11-C
MF11-LP
G235
VR14
DR11-C
DD11-C
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Bill Bradford
mrbill(a)mrbill.net
Austin, TX
In a message dated 7/9/01 8:33:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
rigdonj(a)intellistar.net writes:
> Florida recently dropped their motorcycle helmet law too. Or rather
> you don't hav eto wear a helmet if you have insurance. If you don't have
> insurance then you still have to wear a helmet.
Joe, what type of insurance are you referring to? AFAIK insurance is
required for motorcycles same as it is for cars here in FL.
IMHO it's crazy to be on a motorcycle without a helmet, so why not just
abandon the helmet requirement and let Darwin have the last word . . .
Glen
0/0
> Don't be the first to get voted off the mailing list!!!!
>
> 1 Million '386 PCs for the last person to get voted off :)
I've been ignoring the off-topic rants- I hope there is
*not* a serious discussion regarding voting someone off
the list... even though it might be fun to kid about.
My reasoning being, democracy becomes majoritarianism
just prior to its becoming fascism...
Regards,
-doug q
p.s. I really need all 1 million of those 386s for the
Hypercube I'm thinking of building (just to bring it
back on-topic...)
On July 9, jkunz(a)unixag-kl.fh-kl.de wrote:
> Some recent version (maybe 1.5, at least -current) of NetBSD will run on
> that beast, but the best choice would be SunOs 4.1.3 That is the OS
> this machine was build for. Is is a decent 4.2BSD UNIX derivate with
> 4.3BSD and SysV enhancements.
For SunOS, I'd suggest 4.1.4.
Very recent NetBSD will run nicely on that machine as well.
-Dave McGuire
I've never heard of 4.1.4_U1, so if anyone has that,
I would like to see it.
Sun put out a 4.1.3_U1, and then 4.1.4. The
companies I have worked at all had software support,
so I believe I would have seen a _U1, but you never know.
Kelly
Hi Dave McGuire, you wrote on 7/9/01 4:37:48 PM:
>
> I thought it was 4.0.3, but it may be 4.0.2..
>
> -Dave McGuire
>
>On July 9, Sridhar Ayengar wrote:
>
> And 4.0.2 was the last for Roadrunners, right?
>
> Peace... Sridhar
>
> On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Dave McGuire wrote:
>
> > On July 9, jkunz(a)unixag-kl.fh-kl.de wrote:
> > > > For SunOS, I'd suggest 4.1.4.
> > > I thought 4.1.3 was the end of the flagstaff? Or was that Sun3
only?
> >
> > 4.1.1_U1 was the last for the Sun3
> > 4.1.4_U1 was the last for SPARC
> >
> > -Dave McGuire
> >
> Douglas,
>
> It should be CDC, several guys from CDC left and came to Atari at one
> point to work in the Home Computer Division (1982-1984) and among their
> projects were computers with built in modems for communications and also the
> Plato Terminal Cartridge for the Atari 8bit computer systems. When the
> service was running I used to logon, it was amazing to see the color
> graphics and animation, all well before the advent of Mosiac and "the web"
While CDC provided the mainframe hardware support, Donald Bitzer at the
University of Illinois created PLATO. Around 1981, UofI and CDC parted
ways, with both retaining ownership of PLATO.
But every piece of CDC equipment I've ever said had the distinctive
style of CDC equipment design, and the PLATO plasma display terminal
didn't have the CDC look. Seems I vaguely recall being told 25 years
ago that they were indeed made by Magnavox.
PLATO still lives, you know, at least the UofI version does, as
NovaNET. I've been granted access to NovaNET as a "distinguished
visiting scholar".
I've put a gallery of PLATO scren shots at:
http://members.iglou.com/dougq/cdc/post-login.jpghttp://members.iglou.com/dougq/cdc/llist-index.jpghttp://members.iglou.com/dougq/cdc/recreation.jpghttp://members.iglou.com/dougq/cdc/choose.jpg
and then a more complete gallery at:
http://members.iglou.com/dougq/plato_index.html
that brings you to a page that has thumbnails of the entire
gallery. If you're on a slow link, you may want to jump
straight to the first frame:
http://members.iglou.com/dougq/plato/html/PlatoIV-00.html
then you can "press" "Next" each frame to advance to the next.
This way, it plays back a little bit like it looked on screen,
except the tiny amount of animation the lesson provides can't
be seen on these pages.
I have a second gallery, showing the multi-user game EMPIRE,
but right now I'm shy of space to upload it.
Regards,
-doug quebbeman
