test-drb July 2001

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by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jul 31, 2:25, Iggy Drougge wrote: > I'm offline ATM and can't tell whether this would be relevant, but if you're > into TI-99/4A, this is a good site indeed: > http://www.stanford.edu/~thierry1/ti99/titechpages.htm Thanks -- some of that is helpful, even though I did find the data sheets on the web. Now all I need is some time to play with it... -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

23 years, 4 months

need help with an old ST-251 MFM drive...

by Daniel.Segel＠wcom.com

Here's the deal: I have a circa 1982 IBM PC that has a Seagate ST-251 in it attached to a Data Technology Corp. DTC-5150CI controller with a BIOS on it. Everything works fine and the PC will boot up (it's running PC-DOS 3.3) and I can navigate around and look at all the files, etc. The problem is that I want to pull the files off of this drive, and the 360K floppy doesn't appeal to me a method of transfer (the hard drive is almost full.) There are three ways I can imagine doing this: 1. Get an 8-bit ethernet card working under DOS 3.3 and somehow connect it to my home network, 2. Install a second HD in the PC that's running off a more modern controller (IDE?), 3. Install the ST-251 into a more modern PC. I've been trying to get option 3 to work for a week now, but I'm not having any luck. Any tips? I'm currently trying to get the DTC controller to work in an old EISA 486 with a 1992 AMI BIOS, but I keep getting a "HDD Controller failure" message. I've tried it both with the controllers BIOS enabled and disabled. If the BIOS is enabled, it puts up a message saying "1 hard disk" right before the other error - this is the same message I see on the PC right before it starts booting. So I know the controller itself is "working", but it's not being recognized by the BIOS. I'm not sure what's going on. Any tips? Any other ideas about how to get the data off of this drive? Should I try another MFM controller? Daniel -- Daniel A. Segel WorldCom Employee Systems User Support Phone: 916-373-4810; Vnet: 653-4810; Pager: 888-783-5951; AIM: DanSegel

23 years, 4 months

Vintage Computer Festival 5.0

by vcf＠siconic.com

Vintage Computer Festival 5.0 September 15th and 16th, 2001 Parkside Hall - San Jose Convention Center San Jose, California http://www.vintage.org/2001/main/ Mark you calendar! The fifth annual Vintage Computer Festival is scheduled for the weekend of September 15th and 16th at Parkside Hall in San Jose, California. The Vintage Computer Festival is a celebration of computers and their history. The event features speakers, a vintage computer exhibition, and a vintage computer marketplace. We showcase all different types of computers for all differents kinds of platforms in all different shapes and sizes. EXHIBIT YOUR VINTAGE COMPUTER Vintage Computer Collectors: we want you! Exhibit your favorite computer in the Vintage Computer Exhibition. First, Second and Third place prizes will be awarded in 13 categories, including the coveted Best of Show. For complete details on the VCF 5.0 Exhibition, visit: http://www.vintage.org/2001/main/exhibit.php BUY/SELL/TRADE AT THE VINTAGE COMPUTER MARKETPLACE Do you have some vintage computer items you'd like to sell? Whether you rent a booth or sell on consignment, the Vintage Computer Festival Marketplace is the premier venue for selling old computers and related items. If you would like to rent a booth or inquire about consignment rates, please send e-mail to <vendor(a)vintage.org> for more information or visit: http://www.vintage.org/2001/main/vendor.php TELL A FRIEND! TELL A FRIEND! TELL A FRIEND! We really hope to see you at the VCF 5.0! And remember, tell your friends!! A printable flyer in Word format can be downloaded here: http://www.vintage.org/2001/main/vcf50.doc Vintage Computer Festival 5.0 September 15th and 16th, 2001 Parkside Hall - San Jose Convention Center San Jose, California http://www.vintage.org/2001/main/ Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org

23 years, 4 months

DEC VT180 (Robin)

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

And if megan doesnt have it I do... in a box somewhere. Allison -----Original Message----- From: Curt Vendel <curt(a)atari-history.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 6:46 PM Subject: Re: DEC VT180 (Robin) >David, > > I received a Robin at the VCFE show from a great guy who used to work for >DEC. Unfortunately my engine in my car suffered some severe damage and is >still up in the Honda dealer in Massachusettes so I had no way of bringing >the unit home and not wanting to leave it in the car, I gave it to Megan who >is the resident RT-11 expert as I thought it would be the best home for the >unit. She has a huge assortment of software specifically for the Robin >VT180. > > >Curt > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "David Betz" <dbetz(a)xlisper.mv.com> >To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> >Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 12:33 PM >Subject: DEC VT180 (Robin) > > >> I just picked up a DEC VT180 that seems to work except that it came with >no >> software. Does anyone know where I can get a CP/M boot disk for it and/or >> the diagnostic disk? >> >> Thanks, >> David Betz >> dbetz(a)xlisper.mv.com >> >

23 years, 4 months

"Early" 3.5" diskettes (was: Wired covers VCF east

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

What kind of drive??? I have a few older 3.5" drives about. Allison -----Original Message----- From: Megan <mbg(a)world.std.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 7:16 PM Subject: Re: "Early" 3.5" diskettes (was: Wired covers VCF east > >>Modern drives don't seem to mind missing shutters, and all of the early >>drives that I've tried are happy with modern diskettes with the shutter >>removed. So try taking the shutter off of a diskette and see whether >>that makes the drive happy. > >Thanks, Fred... > >I'll have to try it again... > >The next part of the problem is trying to find such a drive to >put on an -11, interfaced in such a way so that I can read/write >the diskette. Then I could try loading up an RT-11 monitor and >see if we can get the thing to boot. > > Megan Gentry > Former RT-11 Developer > >+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ >| Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com | >| Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com | >| Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' | >| 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | >| Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | >| (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg KB1FCA | >+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

23 years, 4 months

MicorVAX II

by TheDataMaestro＠aol.com

Hi, I need 1 or more MicroVAX II's. I have 2 that are in various states of disrepair and I need to fix them. Please let me know of their availability. Thanks. George

23 years, 4 months

Whats you oldest computer

by ljcst18+＠pitt.edu

Hello All, I was just curious to know what was the oldest computer any of you own. The oldest one I actually own is an apple II+ (1978?) and the oldest one I am restoring is a HP 2114B circa 1969. Luke

23 years, 4 months

Newsweek mentions VCFe and Sellam

by bills＠adrenaline.com

SUPRDAVE(a)aol.com wrote: > cool! is there an online link? I just found it: http://www.msnbc.com/news/606595.asp?0nw=n18#hobby

23 years, 4 months

Chevy Vega Re: Cheap cars (was: 1%...)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On July 31, Master of all that Sucks wrote: > In New Jersey, gas is cheaper than most places, and it's ALL full-serve. > Self-serve is illegal. I grew up in NJ. This is going to sound ridiculous, but since I grew up with full-serve gas stations, when moving out of NJ the notion of self-serve took some getting used to. Weird. -Dave -- Dave McGuire Laurel, MD

23 years, 4 months

Wired covers VCF east

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Megan <mbg(a)world.std.com> wrote: > As for the diskette being proprietary, I talked with someone at > VCF-east and they said that they though that *really* early > 3.5" diskettes were different from what we are used to now... > he thought he might have a drive and some media... (if you > are reading this, whoever, please contact me). What little I could see in the picture looked sort of like a Sony drive mechanism with the square eject button. True? Early Sony 3.5" diskettes and drives had a manual diskette shutter. You had to slide the shutter to the open position, and it would lock open. Then you could insert the diskette. When you ejected the diskette, you were expected to pinch it (that little arrow in the upper left corner used to point to the word "PINCH") to release the shutter; a spring would pull it closed. Fred Cisin probably knows more about this than I do, I just remember seeing some of the early HP stiffies that were usable this way so that they would work in older stiffy drives. They weren't hard to find in 1984 or so, though then-current drives were "automatic". -Frank McConnell

23 years, 4 months

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test-drb July 2001