test-drb July 2001

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by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Hello All, > > I was just curious to know what was the oldest computer any of you > own. The oldest one I actually own is an apple II+ (1978?) and the oldest > one I am restoring is a HP 2114B circa 1969. Processor Technology SOL, built by me, 1976 through 1978 (it was usable by sometime in 1977). -dq

22 years, 11 months

VAX 11/750 info

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

Anybody know what the power requirements for an 11/750 (base unit) are? I've got a chance to get two of them for cost of freight... Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

22 years, 11 months

VMS setup

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On July 30, Alan Pearson wrote: > I'm looking around for a VMS setup at the moment, but space is tight(as > always!). Can anyone offer suggestions for a smallish (desktop/under desk) > machine that's suitable for running VMS on? My only experience with VMS is > 10+ years ago, version 4.something I think. It ran on an 11/780 cluster, > kind of out of my league :-) Any suggestions, pointers to websites etc? The VAXstation-3100 family make nice desktop VMS machines. They're quite affordable, even on eBay. -Dave -- Dave McGuire Laurel, MD

22 years, 11 months

Font used in d|i|g|i|t|a|l logo?

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

If you look at (almost?) any document produced by Digital in PostScript format, somewhere near the beginning you should find the part that does the Digital logo. Usually there is a long comment describing who designed it, when it was done and how it should (and should not) be used. At some late stage in its life, Digital decided to revamp the logo. For a mere $500K (or thereabouts IIRC) a consultancy recommended some major changes. The round dot is the most noticeable. For $400K I would have been happy to provide equally valuable advice ... as usual I was in the wrong place at the wrong time :-) Antonio

22 years, 11 months

available: Q-bus SCSI controller

by wrking＠dadaboom.com

I have a Distributed Logic Corp, SQ716A Rev J, differential (high voltage) Q-Bus SCSI disk controller that I'm willing to part with. I've tested it by booting into it's internal monitor on a uVAX (and that works), but I don't have a differential SCSI disk to test it with, so I guess it's as-is. Things I'd be willing to trade for (all or part). 1.) One each, RL02 unit select plugs 2 and 3. 2.) DEC BA123 cabinet kit for a RLV21 (RL01/RL02) disk controller. 3.) Rear rack mounting brackets for a DEC BA23 (5.25 inch rack mount uVaxII chassis). I have the two long side rails, but there is a small bracket which attaches each side rail to the rear mounting bracket in the rack cabinet. 4.) Some number of RL02 packs. Let me know if you are interested... Bill

22 years, 11 months

building a PDP11 from the things you find at home

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> > > just how much has been lost to time in the onslaught of Microsoft and Unix > > > > Lots... What do you think about a UNIX-AOS/VS-VMS-MPE-Guardian hybrid? > > I've thought about this, myself. Almost any new OS wants to work like Unix. > What I'd like to see is a community effort to make a new OS that does what > needs to be done without worrying about being compatible with something that > currently exists. Start off with a list of all the good things in different > operating systems, then implement them in a way that works well. Sure, it > may not have a lot of software available, but so what? The fun will be in > developing something that is well-designed, well-implemented, and solid. Take a look at http://www.adaos.org/ for something different. Of course you'd better like Ada, and it's only in the design stages as far as I can tell, and the people working on it seem to be wondering where on earth the person that thought this up has disappeared to. I think I've run across a couple other such projects, one of the tricks is finding them that are running on x86 (or any other semi modern hardware), the other is finding one that isn't trying to be POSIX compliant. Zane

22 years, 11 months

OT: Microsoft worm rumored to halt the internet

by rdd＠smart.net

Tonight I heard something interesting on the radio: there's a new Micro$oft worm loose---no, I'm not referring to {\em the} Microsoft worm, Bill Gate$, but to a worm that's supposed to wreak havoc with most Microsoft systems connected to the 'net by Tuesday. Supposedly the Nut^H^H^HWhite House and the Pentagon are on alert over this. ROFL! This should finally convince people to stop using Microsoft products, although I'll bet it won't, alas. -- Copyright (C) 2001 R. D. Davis The difference between humans & other animals: All Rights Reserved an unnatural belief that we're above Nature & rdd(a)rddavis.net 410-744-4900 her other creatures, using dogma to justify such http://www.rddavis.net beliefs and to justify much human cruelty.

22 years, 11 months

VAX 11/750 info

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On July 29, Ethan Dicks wrote: > > --- Bill Pechter <pechter(a)bg-tc-ppp1689.monmouth.com> wrote: > > And before that a ton of 4116's... > > > > MS750 was the same as MK11 memory for the 11/70. > > (Actually, I thought the MK was originally designed for the 11/74). > > I have a couple of 11/70s here, each with 4Mb memory cabinets in an > attached rack. As far as I can tell, it's 16 x 256Kb boards. Was > there a memory controller for the /70 that could handle 1Mb boards? D-d-d-dddDRROOOOOLLL!! -Dave -- Dave McGuire Laurel, MD

22 years, 11 months

OT: Microsoft worm rumored to halt the internet

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On July 30, R. D. Davis wrote: > > > Micro$oft worm loose---no, I'm not referring to {\em the} Microsoft > > > worm, Bill Gate$, but to a worm that's supposed to wreak havoc with > > ^ > > Come on, if you're going to go to the effort of using LaTeX in an email > > message, you might as well do it properly. (; > > Micro\$oft worm loose---no, I'm not referring to {\em the} Microsoft > worm, Bill Gate\$, but to a worm that's supposed to wreak havoc with > > Ok, I've fixed the errors. Thanks. ;-) Geeks. ;) -Dave -- Dave McGuire Laurel, MD

22 years, 11 months

Seeking instructions for setting up a MAG MX17 monitor

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

I got this 17" monitor from the local uni surplus recently. What caught my attention (besides the $10 price) was that it had an HD-15 VGA connector, a Macintosh 15-pin connector *and* BNCs, and a 2-line LCD display on the front. I figured it was worth the risk since with no cable attached, I couldn't test it there. It passed the crackle-hum test on the bench and I brought it home. Random button poking does not seem to be a useful way of guiding it through setup. There's a row of 8 numbered buttons (also labelled for changing width and position) and a menu button. Additionally, there is a toggle switch on the front for "BNC" vs. "DSUB" and for "user settings" vs "presets" I can get a stable picture of a laptop in its BIOS setup after a fashion, but it's only when I'm in the middle of certain operations on the monitor frontpanel. I can't get it to stick. The monitor LCD says that it's 640x480 @ 70Hz. If I get to the Phoenix spash screen telling me nifty things about the innards of the laptop prior to booting the disk, the MX17 tells me that the sync is "SuperVGA 800x600 @ 60Hz" which I guess makes sense even though it's a 80x25 character display because the laptop is nominally 800x600 unless you hit "Fn FONT" to kick it down to non-stretched pixels occupying 75% of the entire screen. It also matters if the CRT/LCD mode is one or both; that seems to affect what the external scan rate is (also not unexpected from earlier fiddlings with Solaris on this laptop - it was a bear getting the settings right for X on the LCD). So... ramblings aside, I'm looking for a setup guide for how to tell the monitor what to expect is coming in. It has 8 user-definable modes and I can't figure out how to tell it what the definitions are. I did a quick Google search and only came up with reseller sites and a couple quick mentions in an SGI Indy FAQ and a mega list of what scan rates are supported by which monitors for XF86 - less than 50 hits on MX17 in all. Thanks, -ethan ===== Visit "The Seventh Continent" http://penguincentral.com/penguincentral.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

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test-drb July 2001