test-drb July 2001

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by rcini＠optonline.net

Hello, all: Well, VCFE wasn't so bad :-) I bought a Ciarica/Byte MXP16 8088-based PC-clone motherboard which was the subject of a series of articles in Byte in late 1982 and early 1983. I have the first two parts of the series (11/82 and 12/82), but I'm missing the 1/83 issue and possibly later (I don't know how many issues the article ran). For 1983, I only have beginning in July. If anyone has the remaining issues (except Sam -- based on the photos shown at VCFE, I'm sure that he couldn't find them :-)) containing articles, please contact me off-list. Thanks a lot. Rich Rich Cini Collector of classic computers Build Master for the Altair32 Emulation Project Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/ /************************************************************/

22 years, 11 months

Hackers: Computer Outlaws revisited

by steven_j_robertson＠hotmail.com

>But all that aside, see my previous message: security, physical or >virtual, is YOUR responsiblity. If you don't want anyone coming into your >house or your server, LOCK THEM UP! Did they still get in? You didn't >use good enough locks. Try again. OH... I see... The victim has primary responsiblity for the crime. I must admit, I do agree with your statement "LOCK THEM UP". But it's not the house or the server that shuold be locked up, it's the CRIMINALS! SteveRob _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

22 years, 11 months

(fwd) TOPS/SUN Flashbox and Flashcard

by bill_r＠inetnebr.com

If you can help this guy out, please respond directly to him. On Fri, 27 Jul 2001 16:37:56 -0400, "Frederick Scholl" <freds(a)monarch-info.com> wrote: >Hi, Do you know where I can obtain products made by TOPS, a SUN subsidiary. They made the Flashbox and Flashcard, products used for interconnecting macs and pcs. They were popular around 1991. > >Regards, Fred Scholl Bill Richman bill_r(a)inetnebr.com http://incolor.inetnebr.com/bill_r Home of Fun with Molten Metal, technological oddities, and the original COSMAC Elf computer simulator!

22 years, 11 months

altair 8800

by kapteynr＠cboe.com

Herb Johnson has a library of all of the Altair docs on the internet. http://njcc.com/~hjohnson/s100.html I also have all of the original manuals that came with the kit. Interesting S100 add-on cards are getting to be very difficult to find. Please, when you get the computer, DO NOT power it up if it has off for more than ten years. Search the classic computer archive for instructions on bringing it back to life safely. -Rob -----Original Message----- From: Hans Franke [SMTP:Hans.Franke@mch20.sbs.de] Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 7:02 AM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: altair 8800 > A friend is getting one from his father, who got it around the end of > 1975. He asked me about sources for manuals and documentation, plus > sources for boards to upgrade the system. Further questioning revealed > that he wont get the unit until he travels back to visit the parents, :)) Well, since I will visit various places during the next 7 weeks, I may offer my help to pick it up for free !... Am I a nice guy ? Ciao Hans -- VCF Europa 3.0 am 27./28. April 2002 in Muenchen http://www.vcfe.org/

22 years, 11 months

VMS setup

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

On Mon, 30 Jul 2001 09:12:24 -0500 (CDT) Eric Dittman <dittman(a)dittman.net> writes: > > The VAXstation-3100 family make nice desktop VMS machines. They're > > quite affordable, even on eBay. > > If space is real tight, the VAXstation 4000/VLC would be a good > choice, too. I know where I can get a bunch of those, too. Jeff ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

22 years, 11 months

Font used in d|i|g|i|t|a|l logo?

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Cameron: I can check tonight. I did a PDP logo by hand for my Web site using MS Paint. It's a sans serif font, but not Arial or Helvetica. It's not Lucida, either. Now, I don't know if this is the actual name of the font used (if you ask a DEC person), but it's indistinguishable. Rich ========================== Richard A. Cini, Jr. Congress Financial Corporation 1133 Avenue of the Americas 30th Floor New York, NY 10036 (212) 545-4402 (212) 840-6259 (facsimile) -----Original Message----- From: Cameron Kaiser [mailto:spectre@stockholm.ptloma.edu] Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 12:57 AM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Font used in d|i|g|i|t|a|l logo? > Anybody know the font used in the d|i|g|i|t|a|l logo, and > on the old pdp logos and rack header plates? The PDP plates and logos, dunno, but I'm pretty sure the digital logo was Futura or some analogue. -- ----------------------------- personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu -- Gravity is a myth. The Earth just sucks. -----------------------------------

22 years, 11 months

Font used in d|i|g|i|t|a|l logo?

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Bill: When I did my rendition of the logo, I used a stock TrueType Font. I just can't remember the name right now. It's not a base Windows font and it didn't come with MS Word. Rich -----Original Message----- From: Bill Pechter [mailto:pechter@bg-tc-ppp471.monmouth.com] Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 10:09 AM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Font used in d|i|g|i|t|a|l logo? > Cameron: > > I can check tonight. I did a PDP logo by hand for my Web site using > MS Paint. It's a sans serif font, but not Arial or Helvetica. It's not > Lucida, either. > > Now, I don't know if this is the actual name of the font used (if > you ask a DEC person), but it's indistinguishable. > > Rich IIRC -- it's a modified Helvetica... The original was pretty much a kind of wood-cut block thing that looked more like Futura then Helvetica. Then came the blue helvetica thing with the squarish dots on the i's. Then they paid big money for the maroon move and rounted i's. Bill --- Bill Gates is a Persian cat and a monocle away from being a villain in a James Bond movie -- Dennis Miller bpechter@shell.monmouth.com|pechter@pechter.dyndns.org

22 years, 11 months

VMS setup

by dittman＠dittman.net

> > I'm looking around for a VMS setup at the moment, but space is tight(as > > always!). Can anyone offer suggestions for a smallish (desktop/under desk) > > machine that's suitable for running VMS on? My only experience with VMS is > > 10+ years ago, version 4.something I think. It ran on an 11/780 cluster, > > kind of out of my league :-) Any suggestions, pointers to websites etc? > > The VAXstation-3100 family make nice desktop VMS machines. They're > quite affordable, even on eBay. If space is real tight, the VAXstation 4000/VLC would be a good choice, too. -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net

22 years, 11 months

Ethernet -- thicknet and thinnet before 10BaseT

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> I'm wondering how long it is before DECnet and Appletalk fail to work > on some modern networks because of the smart switches screwing up. > Nowadays it almost seems they expect everything to be all TCP/IP. I've seen it happen already (although that was an 802.3 vs Ethernet II issue, and the later rev of the h/w was fixed). But you are right, noone tests against anything other than IP(v4) and noone designs new protocols that easily accomodate anything that is not IP. Antonio

22 years, 11 months

altair 8800

by lemay＠cs.umn.edu

Dumb question, but what might an Altair 8800 be worth these days? A friend is getting one from his father, who got it around the end of 1975. He asked me about sources for manuals and documentation, plus sources for boards to upgrade the system. Further questioning revealed that he wont get the unit until he travels back to visit the parents, and that the unit apparently has a 256 byte memory. This small scrap of information leads me to think this could be an original kit built system, with the original memory and probably hasnt been upgraded. If so, it could be a very dumb thing if someone who is clueless decided to upgrade this system, when he may actually have quite the collectors item in original condition on his hands... I'll pass along any information, or sources of documentation or scanned in manuals, that anyone can provide. -Lawrence LeMay lemay(a)cs.umn.edu

22 years, 11 months

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test-drb July 2001