test-drb June 2001

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by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Doug: The earliest MSC I have is 7.0 which has the 3.1 SDK on it (separate disk and separate install program). Rich ========================== Richard A. Cini, Jr. Congress Financial Corporation 1133 Avenue of the Americas 30th Floor New York, NY 10036 (212) 545-4402 (212) 840-6259 (facsimile) -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Quebbeman [mailto:dhquebbeman@theestopinalgroup.com] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 5:13 PM To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org' Subject: RE: SDK for Windows 1.04?? > Hello, all: > > I was paging through some Sourcer listings that I have of the > Windows 1.04 code and noticed that most of the functions in the DOS Shell > code (MSDOS.exe and MSDOSD.exe) are referenced by ordinal number and not > function name ("MSDOS_23" versus "DoSomeThing"). So, I was wondering if > anyone had a copy or knows the existence of SDK documentation for Windows 1. I think the Windows 1 SDK was bundled with some versions of the Microsoft C Compiler v 4.0.... or I guess, it would have been the compiler bundled with the SDK. In the late 80s, lots of people were buying the SDKs and then stripping out the compiler packages and selling them. I bought MS C 5.0 that way >from someone who'd bought a Microsoft OS/2 SDK. I was able to send a copy of a letter from the seller to Microsoft, who registered me as a valid licensee! However, they stopped that practice shortly there- after. Regards, -dq

23 years, 6 months

Noise cancellation (was: Boom cars (ot for sure...)

by cmurillo＠emtelsa.multi.net.co

At 07:32 PM 6/21/01 -0700, Fred wrote: > >For years I have used noise-cancellation headphones at COMDEX. >The slowness of the speed of sound limits the practicality of the >technology to situations where you can have the added signal provided to >the receiver (your ear) at the same place as the original sound (in the >headphones). If you tried to produce a unit to silence the neighborhood, >alas, the delay of the sound reaching the mike, added to the delay of the >"anti-sound" getting back to the original source, would render it >impossible to synch up adequately. Even if the mike were at the source, >eliminating THAT delay, people at different locations would experience >different phase combinations of the two signals. In fact, at 500 >feet away there would be almost a half a second of delay. Since you want >either no time delta between the signals (if inverted), enough distance to >give half the frequency of the sound would completely bollix it. > >In other words, you could diminish the sound for yourself, but not cancel >out the noise level even a few feet away. Yes, this is inhererent in every 1-dimensional, single driver approach to sound cancellation. In the end, if you want to null out a source for everyone, you need to surround it with drivers. Not practical. But, with two drivers strategically placed apart, you can cancel the source along one direction. Oh, and you need more than one mike along every direction for the same reasons. carlos. -------------------------------------------------------------- Carlos E. Murillo-Sanchez carlos_murillo(a)nospammers.ieee.org

23 years, 6 months

Boom cars (ot for sure...)

by JRichardson＠softwright.co.uk

we fired up an old Rover (Buick) V8 a while ago on someone's driveway with no exhaust manifolds on it - that really was pretty darn loud. Windows rattled, and the people 4 doors down the street though a plane was crashing on their heads :-) the flames are pretty good, nice blue / orange jets out of the ports in the heads. Cooked the engine bay pretty well though... > ---------- > From: Mike Ford[SMTP:mikeford@socal.rr.com] > Sent: 22 June 2001 09:23 > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Boom cars (ot for sure...) > > >> common occurance that when I start my engine when parked next to an > >> alarmed car, the alarm goes off. :-) > > > > > >Yeh, those 3/4-race cams and headers have this tendancy to do that . . . > > One of my brothers old buddies had his exhaust rigged with a pair of 3" > electric aircraft fuel valves. Switch up on the dash ran the exhaust thru > a > Caddie quiet set of mufflers, down and it went out about a foot behind > the > front wheels with no restriction of any kind. Not only rather loud, but > shot flame a fair distance. > >

23 years, 6 months

Boom cars (ot for sure...)

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:12:06 -0700 Chuck McManis <cmcmanis(a)mcmanis.com> writes: > This is a True Story(tm) although it sounds like an urban legend <Tale of Cellular Mayhem SNIPped> Yeh, I seen that done. I work for a test equipment manufacturer, and you can get a cellular test set to fake-out phones pretty easily (if you have $20k to spend on a test set). A retired cellular tranceiver (one designed to deliver a control channel) is a good substitute. OB Classic: If those tranceivers were the ones I'm familiar with, they are controlled by a 6809 uP. They're long, thin, heavy aluminum things with a handle and audio jacks in the front . . . . ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

23 years, 6 months

C64: need help with "quest for tires" [blush]]

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

Gee, I'm so embarrassed asking this in public, but heck, I played so little games in my life! Can someone tell me how to get over those pits once you come down the hill with Quest for Tires? I recently got an old C64 setup (I grew up with one) and thought this was a fun game, I just don't see any way to get over those pits. Thanks, -Gunther

23 years, 6 months

Tru64, off topic? NOT!

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

No this is not off topic, becasue I just had that thought that one should rename Lunix/LNG to "True64". After all, Tru64 isn't truly on the C64. The but the C64 has a Unix, so it should be called True64. cheers, -Gunther -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

23 years, 6 months

SDK for Windows 1.04??

by cisin＠xenosoft.com

On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, George Currie wrote: > Two different concepts. The DOS tech refs are refering to the values > to place in ah (I think, or was it al?) before making a DOS or BIOS > int call. This is all pre-DLL days. Richard is referring to the > ordinal number within a DLL to reference a specific function located > in the DLL. He is referring to the number reported by his disassembler that is disassembling the Windoze program (into DOS compatible assembly language). The value placed in AH IS for the purpose of referencing a specific dunction located in the MS-DOS DOS function handler (INT 21h). > Not all functions in a dll have their names exported and > sometimes the only way to get to them is by ordinal number. This is > one way that M$ creates 'value added' to their software by utilizing > these undocumented calls. And there were/are a few undocumented functions in MS-DOS, such as #34h, and INT 28. And don't forget the "network redirector" (since 3.10) that is needed even to use MS's CDROM drivers. -- Fred Cisin cisin(a)xenosoft.com XenoSoft http://www.xenosoft.com PO Box 1236 (510) 558-9366 Berkeley, CA 94701-1236

23 years, 6 months

SDK for Windows 1.04??

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Hello, all: I was paging through some Sourcer listings that I have of the Windows 1.04 code and noticed that most of the functions in the DOS Shell code (MSDOS.exe and MSDOSD.exe) are referenced by ordinal number and not function name ("MSDOS_23" versus "DoSomeThing"). So, I was wondering if anyone had a copy or knows the existence of SDK documentation for Windows 1. Rich ========================== Richard A. Cini, Jr. Congress Financial Corporation 1133 Avenue of the Americas 30th Floor New York, NY 10036 (212) 545-4402 (212) 840-6259 (facsimile)

23 years, 6 months

SDK for Windows 1.04??

by epgroot＠ucdavis.edu

George, I don't think Windows 1.04 had DLLs! It ran in real mode and used simple .EXE files as programs and nothing else. Edwin At 03:26 PM 6/21/2001 -0500, you wrote: >Two different concepts. The DOS tech refs are refering to the values to place in ah (I think, or was it al?) before making a DOS or BIOS int call. This is all pre-DLL days. Richard is referring to >the ordinal number within a DLL to reference a specific function located in the DLL. Not all functions in a dll have their names exported and sometimes the only way to get to them is by ordinal >number. This is one way that M$ creates 'value added' to their software by utilizing these undocumented calls. > >George > >On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:42:53 -0400, John Allain wrote: > >>From: Cini, Richard <RCini(a)congressfinancial.com> >> >>> most of the functions in the DOS Shell code (MSDOS.exe >>> and MSDOSD.exe) are referenced by ordinal number >> >>Early (most?) DOS techinical reference >>manuals listed function calls by numbers, >>E.G. 10H = Close file. 01H = Keyboard input, etc. >>Could this be it? >> >>John A.

23 years, 6 months

SGI Indy

by dittman＠dittman.net

A local (to D/FW) used place has some SGI Indy systems (with monitor, keyboard, and mouse) for sale. Is there any interest in these? They're asking $150 each. I don't know if that's a good deal or not, and I don't know if they'll ship, but if you're interested let me know and I'll email you the phone number. I'm not going to buy these and try to auction them. I don't know what they are worth, I don't collect them, and I don't want to buy them and try to ship them. I'll let you deal with them yourself. If they won't ship, but you REALLY need one, I may be convinced to help you. The box itself wouldn't be hard to ship, but I hate shipping large monitors. -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net

23 years, 6 months

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