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From: M.Buckett <M.Buckett(a)dcs.hull.ac.uk>
>> >>For a while I had a parallel port webcam running of a 386sx20 with
4MB> >>of RAM and it ran Windows 95. While it was slow it did get the
job
>> >
>> >The catch with using w95 regardless of speed, it that for many cases
its
>> >the only game in town if you want network services, ie winsocket etc.
>>
>>
>> Huh? What about linux, freebsd, and friends.?
>
>Drivers for the webcam (Creative Webcam 1) only really existed for
Windows 95.
>A linux driver is about on the net but it looks pretty beta.
Understood. Though the W95 version sounds beta too. That the biggest
problem with W9x systems, apps and drivers (other than the base ones
supplied) are often pretty poor. Under Win/NT4 I've had my pain with
tape and video drivers plus the usual apps that leak memory.
Allison
Another one I remember is Spectre VR, a now-defunct 3-d tank game that's been around for awhile...I remember that there was a shareware or freeware version that was single-player only, but the commercial version supported many networked players as long as each had a unique serial number registered. Should run fine on just about any color Mac -- it fits on a floppy and is pretty streamlined as 3d games go. Any Hacks N' Cracks database or other decent serial number compilation will have plenty of serial numbers for you to use.
Another good one, but probably too processor-intensive for the really old Macs, is Terminal Velocity. Also defunct. This was an easy-to-play flight simulator type game with nice graphics and sound.
There's also Marathon, which has been around awhile, but may be again too new for the older machines. It's also a good bit more involved -- probably too hard for very young kids to get into.
Good luck, HTH...
-- MB
I just tried to look up a Quantum drive on their site and could not find the
archives any more. Certainly the links produced by a Google search for mthe
drive are either dead or redirected to their index page.
Is this another company which has just decided to remove all of their
historic documents or am I looking in the wrong place?
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Regards
Pete
On April 2, ip500 wrote:
> In case anyone wants to take a look ... I shot a couple of quick
> pictures of these huge IBM disk drives and stuck them:
> http://members.home.net/ip500/ibmdiscfront.JPG
> http://members.home.net/ip500/ibmdisccu.JPG
> http://members.home.net/ip500/ibmdiscback.JPG
> No good reference for scale, but they are about 4' long X 2' dia
> and weigh approx 140 pounds [that's not including the motor & belt drive
> visable in picture 1]. These were mounted as pictured [upright], 2 to a
> cabinet, the motors were mounted above the drives and ran a 1.5" width
> belt down to the drive pulley. I can hardly beliefe these are circa
> 1985!
Wow...that disk is BEEFY. What's the capacity on that beastie
again?
-Dave McGuire
Over the last few weeks I have come up with the following finds:
1-Osborn (gray unit) with all the manuals and software that came with it
new. I got the original papers it was purchased on 12/24/1982.
2-Apple QuickTake 100 digital camera in the box
3-Dr. DOS 6.0 complete.
4-Four reels of BASF tape - New
5-PB DUO 230 with dock
6-Motorola AlphaMate model N1383A
7-Penware 100
8-PB165 working unit no adapter
9-Multitech Micro-Professor MPF-I brand new unopened box
10-Mac Plus complete working unit donated to me.
11-HP 200LX palmtop PC working unit with lots extra's
12-Two early Mac promotional tapes used by dealers
13-HP 9100-5124 adapter
14-Core memory card, a really great find
The other is not close to 10 years old yet so I will list it another
time. Keep on computing
John Keys
From: Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com>
>I have a Packard Bell setup and an HP, both of which use an EISA bridge
>(according to the signon) and EISA-looking riser card, at right angles
in the
>case of the PB and parallel to the really small lower card in the HP.
Both have
>ISA expansion and PCI as well, and both have video, etc. (all the usual
mobo
>stuff) on the lower board.
Could be but since its a slim lince case even if it were EISA it would
have to
be shorter in height. Most of the boxen that require the 120 or so pin
card
do it for mechancical reasons and the busses can be ISA, EISA, and the
AT&T
I have has ISA, EISA and even PCI on the right angle card!
Allison
>
>Dick
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "ajp166" <ajp166(a)bellatlantic.net>
>To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
>Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 10:22 PM
>Subject: Re: Mobo Question
>
>
>> From: Lanny Cox <chronic(a)nf.sympatico.ca>
>>
>>
>> >It's about 2 1/2 times bigger than a PCI slot, as i originally
>> mentioned. It
>> >looks a lot like an ISA port (ISA style connectors and black casing),
>> but is
>> >a lot bigger. There's only one connector on the mobo, which does
support
>> the
>> >riser card theory. Luckily, the system has onboard video, serial and
>> >parallel ports, etc. so it won't be so bad.
>>
>>
>> Thats the case. Most pizza boxen that are under 5" high have to mount
the
>> card
>> horizontally so the do the 120 pin connector and riser with the cards
>> plugging into
>> the riser sideways.
>>
>> I have a AT&T P100, Dell 486DX and Dell 386sx/16 all using risers
like
>> that.
>>
>> Allison
>>
>>
>
On Mar 28, 2:47, Iggy Drougge wrote:
> This weekend, along with a batch of PS/2s, I received a 3Com 3c588 1988
> vintage MultiConnect Repeater. It's a 19" case with space for sixteen
cards.
> Mine features one card indicating power with a green LED as well as a
DB-9
> female connector, then fourteen cards equipped with a BNC connector, an
> activity led, one partition LED and a partition/reset switch each.
> Whenever a card is connected to a 10b2 network, the partition light
(which
> otherwise emits a steady red light) begins to flicker. Upon flicking the
> switch into reset mode, the partition light goes out. The network works
fine
> as long as there is no partitioning. I suppose its purpose is to not leak
> traffic between several networks.
Not quite. "Partitioning" is network jargon for disconnecting a port or
segment. If there's no terminator, the transceiver will behave as though
continually detecting collisions, and the repeater will automatically
disconnect ("partition") that transceiver from the rest. The red LED
lights up to tell you it has done so. It won't self-reset because if it
really were connected to a faulty network segment, it might end up going in
and out of operation.
> What is the purpose of the DB-9 connector?
I'm not familiar with this particular repeater, but I imagine it's a serial
port for management and setup. Modern 3Com equipment has a serial port
wired to the same (non)standard as PC 9-pin ports, but that one may not be
wired in the normal way. It may also do auto-baud-rate detection, and it
probably won't emit anything until it receives a couple of carriage
returns. My old SynOptics 2813 hubs have a DA9 as well, and it's some odd
connection for a modem (they also have a DB25 whichj is a normal serial
port).
I'd pull the card and see if anything on it gives you any clues.
> Could this repeater slow a network down?
Unlikely. You can get different cards for those repeaters -- 10baseT,
10base2, 10base5/AUI, and the 10baseT cards have 3 ports each. 3Com
wouldn't have done that if it were going to significantly impact bandwidth.
It's basically just a buffer; it doesn't process the data passing through
like a switch does. Any intelligence in it is just for monitoring and
setup (partitioning, etc).
Another thing you could try is snooping on the network packets (if you have
snoop, tcpdump, or similar) to see if the repeater emits any packets when
it first powers up. It might be trying to BOOTP to get an IP address, and
if you give it one, you can probably telnet to it and look at the setup.
It probably needs a password, though.
> What does partitioning actually entail?
See above. Some more modern 3Com hubs also have the capability to split
the unit into segments (eg, the SuperStack II PS 40 hubs and others can
have 4 segments) but assigning ports to different segments isn't usually
called partitioning.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
hi,
>>It's true. In general, IDE tends to be a fairly raw interface,
although as
>>machines have evolved, it's not as raw as back in the 386 days.
>
>It's worth pointing out that the A4000 was buffered, though. There
are
>buffered IDE multiplexers abvailable so that one might add four
ATAPI devices
>at once. I've got an unbuffered one on the 4000, though I've since
removed the
>three sub-gigabyte drives with a single bigger one.
Someone said that some people have fried unbuffered amigas by trying to fit
CDROM drives to them - the current draw is bigger and cooks the CPU. That
may well be myth though - surely the IDE spec says things about current
limitations as well as protocol? (although I don't doubt that there are one
or two bad drives out there)
Oh, I fell foul to ebay - that A3000's almost tripled in value over the
weekend. Think I'll give it a miss in future (first time I've tried ebay)...
rather wait for something to turn up where I know what the asking price is!
(fair dues on the A3000 though, it did seem like a bargain at the original
price given how loaded up it seemed to be - I got fed up dealing with
inherent web time delays though and got bored bidding on Friday)
I think I'll keep scouring local ads and loot for a 1200 or something...
> There is a free NFS server port on Aminet,
> http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/aminet/comm/tcp/nfsd_bin991130.lha
> I'd probably go with that in a UNIX environment, though it seems
to have a
> tendency to fluctuate in speed a lot. I suspect this has got
something to do
> with the virtual inode which it goes about creating, but suddenly
performance
> drops a whole lot and drive activity gets quite intense.
well as long as something works :-)
Back when I used to use the A500 a lot I used to have to boot a PC XT
emulator and copy files via floppy that way - it was really quite painful!
(Can't remember the name of the emulator now)
> BTW, I got my first Speccy today! Can't wait to see if it's a 48K
or 16K
> version. Now I only have to get one of those cassette recorders.
=)
now you're talking! The best computer ever... :-) Hopefully it's a 48K, I
don't think much will run on the 16K version, they never were that popular.
Ahh, the days of interfaces falling out of the back of the machine,
constantly tweaking tape head alignment to get anything to load, broken
keyboard membranes etc. etc. ;)
cheers for the help,
Jules
Re: Spaceward Ho, Friends and I have been playing that in a big group
annually for > 10 years. My Mac Plus has participated in *every* annual
Ho-a-thon, and is still my preferred Ho machine (though I switch to the
PB3400 when we switch to Marathon!). Info and order at
http://www.delatao.com/ho/index.html
I'll be happy to answer more questions about it off-list. Strongly
recommended. There's a demo at that website.
Also: Armor Alley. I think this is not sold, not available
freeware/shareware, just deceased. That is a *real* shame, it was a *good*
game. Only up to 4 players though.
- Mark
A quick follow-up:
It also appears that GMT Microelectronics, the group of CSG people
that in 1994 purchased the CSG operation from the failed Commodore have
themselves failed or were purchased. Their Web site is dormant and in
February someone purchased the domain name. Their phone numbers are "busy."
Any info on this?
Rich
--- Mike Ford wrote:
I also strongly recommend doing what I do, BUY old software and use legal
copies. What you "do" teaches kids more than what you" say", and running a
lot of bootleg software (except for MS products) gives the wrong message.
Showing that a bunch of old computers can still be a LOT of fun is the
RIGHT message.
--- end of quote ---
Thank you for the morality lesson. However, when games are defunct and the software companies no longer exist, I don't see a piracy issue with using those programs freely. Or perhaps I should tear down my Lisa software FTP server? I was not advocating ripping off commercial software, and I rather resent that implication.
If the makers of Spectre VR are still around and still selling/supporting their older stuff, I'll happily send in my payment. I doubt that they are, but it would be easy to find out and act accordingly. If they're NOT around or are no longer supporting their program, then they have nothing to lose by your using it freely. They've already made their money and moved on.
As a semi-parallel, Penguin Classics are re-releases of classic literature sold for about $2 each because the copyrights and/or royalty requirements have expired over time. I view ancient software similarly (and yes, I would pay a token fee like $2 for an old game, if there were anyone left to take the money). Your classic Mac might as well be a boat anchor if you can't run something on it.
-- MB
Owen Robertson wrote (in private e-mail to me):
> Well, I was hoping to find diagrams of a simple system someone else had
> created, so that I could study it and get ideas. I was also looking for
> information on address decoding circuitry.
The information I have is likely to be at the chip level rather than the
board level. But I'll see what I can do.
I'm replying to the list because private mail to your From: address (univac
at earthlink dot net) keeps bouncing.
-- Derek
On Apr 2, 7:36, Bryan Pope wrote:
> >
> > The thing is, Microsoft's memory recommendations tend to be the minimum
the
> > OS will function correctly. Remember the minimum requirements for
win95 were
> > a 386sx16 and 4 megs of ram. I'm told it will *boot* in that, if
you're
> > patient. But do useful work? Ha.
> >
> I can confirm that it will boot... I did tech support for this person
> who had just such a beast. It took about 10 minutes to boot. The poor
hard
> drive just kept grinding away the whole time. And this machine was used
to
> take care of their accounting.
I can second that -- I recently gave a friend a little compaq portable (I'd
hestitate to call it a laptop!) which is a 386sx16. i tohught it had 2MB
of RAM, but maybe it was 4MB -- anyway, it does boot, but it takes longer
than 10 minutes. It takes even longer than that to boot linux!
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
Can RA81/82 disks be reformatted in the field? If so, is this
done through XXDP or is there a way to do it from the disk's
serial port?
My RA82 occasionally lights its FAULT light and extinguishes its
ready light during write operations. The likelyhood of it
faulting appears (but I am not certain) to be correlated with a specific
region of the disk.
About five-ten seconds after the fault, the FAULT indicator turns
off and ready comes back on. At no time is an I/O error generated
that the application or the operating system (2.11BSD) see
so this fault appears to be transient and is resolved by either
the drive or the drive/controller together.
It "smells" like a data write error that's resolved after a few
automatic retries. I'm hoping a low-level reformat could clear it
up. Am I wacked out?
If there's an XXDP exerciser/formatter available I'd appreciate it
if someone could point me there. It's been nearly twenty years since
the last time I even tried running XXDP
Thanks as always,
greg
p.s. The RA81 drive on the same controller never gives any
trouble (yet). I've tried some more basic things like
swapping SDI cables and drive ports but it doesn't make
a difference.
Gregory Travis
Cornerstone Information Systems ATS
greg(a)ciswired.com
812 330 4361 ext. 18
> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:09:49 -0800
> From: Mike Ford <mikeford(a)socal.rr.com>
>
> Got any FastPath docs?
I do, plus, I was software lead on the FastPath at Shiva in the early
90s. I did the FastPath 4+ and FastPath 5.
-phil
Hi;
I have run across a lot of DEC that is available at a Government agency that
is available for negotiated sale. Unfortunately, there are some units I know
little about. Since it is the government there are complications with the
hard drives that I will mention after the list.
The lot is;
one Microvax II in a BA123 cabinet
two VAX 4000/200s small square floor towers
one VAX 4000/100 Desktop
two DEC 2000 AXP
one DEC PC AXP 150
one DEC 486 PC
one DEC Storage works small drive tower w/o drives
one CD tower with 3 or 4 CD drives in it, I think DEC mfg. but not sure.
The limitations are no keyboards, mice or monitors. Otherwise the equipment
seems complete. I will not have the opportunity to list boards, drives, etc.
It is supposed to be working equipment.
I was told by the property manager that the drives will have to be removed,
or if I wanted the drives they would have to be erased to his satisfaction.
No Government software can get out of the agency.
Does anyone know how to clean the drives in situ given the limitations. I
could probably scrounge up a terminal but I don't have one easily accessible.
Not to mention I have no experience in reformatting vaxes. Would a honking
big magnet trash the drives? If I can't clean the drives they will keep them.
What I really need is an idea of the value of the units. It has to be more
than scrap otherwise they will go for recycling.
They have a contract with a scrap recycler that lets them deduct the value of
the machines from their budget if they go to this recycler so it is too their
advantage to recycle them. However the Property manager likes me and is
willing to help if I can satisfy his requirements.
I have little interest in keeping them so they would be offered to the list
first. If you want to make an offer on any please contact me off list at
whoagiii(a)aol.com.
Speculation of their value on list is OK by me if it is OK with the
listmembers.
What are the AXP units? I have no idea what AXP means or what processors are
in them?
Thanks for the help.
Paxton
Portland, Oregon
For some reason, I've been encountering a lot of EISA systems recently. It
doesn't seem like such a nice bus, much like MCA, but at least in theory, it
beats ISA. What bothers me, though, is the fact that there doesn't seem to be
any central repository for the configuration files needed, unlike MCA adaptor
description files, which have been neatly collected by Peter Wendt et al.
Despite much googling, I've been unable to find drivers for my Netflex-2
ethernet card, and finding one for my NE3200 proved to be a real struggle as
well. What a bother.
Does anyone have any EISA links to recommend, or the configuration file for
the Netflex-2?
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En ligne avec Thor 2.6a.
A Spanish MSX Group "Matra" visited to this Fair. I lent Spanish stand to
them. They showed and did Promotion play of SEX BOMB BUNNY. And this Game has
tema song of Majingar-Z! Why they know Japanese TV animation?
K. Ikeda, MSX-Print
I am sending off a bunch of compact MACs to the "familly compound" where we
have our many familly holiday gatherings. I had accumulated over 30 of
these, mostly Classics and Classic IIs.
We end up with a bunch of kids there (ages 4 to14) and I would like to hook
up some MACs together and get them running some sort of head to head
games...Since these are small and compact they will be fine for the kids and
4 or 6 of these will not take up more than a large table...I am doing some
spring cleaning in the collection so...
I was not into games when these were popular so...anybody remember any good
titles that could be played head-to-head on these?
Thanks
Claude
From: Mike Ford <mikeford(a)socal.rr.com>
>>For a while I had a parallel port webcam running of a 386sx20 with 4MB
>>of RAM and it ran Windows 95. While it was slow it did get the job
>
>The catch with using w95 regardless of speed, it that for many cases its
>the only game in town if you want network services, ie winsocket etc.
Huh? What about linux, freebsd, and friends.?
Allison
At 01:16 02-04-2001 -0400, Bear wrote:
>They're just text. Part of the specification for a .cfg is that it have a
>descriptive name in it.
>
>Like this sample excerpt from !bus4201.cfg:
<snip>
Yes, all true. However, the design of the descriptor was left up to the
manufacturer. Compaq chose to put 'CPQ' in the front part of all their .CFG
filenames, and a four-digit number following it.
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