test-drb March 2001

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Flea Market finds...: VAX 5000/200 point me to a faq please...

by claudew＠videotron.ca

Hi There is a large flea market about 20 minutes from here every weekend. It fills about 2 to 3 drive-in parking lots during summer and even during the dead of winter in below 0 temperatures, there are about 100 tables and lots to look through... Never know what you are going to find...today I found: Vax Station 5000/200 with 32Megs (?) $5 Amiga 500/mouse/rf mod + Intellivision II (for my game console collector friends) $7 Box full of C64 stuff : 1541, C64, 2 CBM Power Supplies, TI99 Power Supply, 1530 Mouse, RCA cables, 1541 cable, 1 Fast Load $7 Sensory Chess Challenger 9'' inbox/manual (1981...)...my Phd-teacher brother is a chess champ and collects old chess sets...I taught he would get a kick outta this...$4 I passed on a Sharp PC-10 portable computer + printer at $10 as-is...I offered $5...no go... Can someone tell me more about the VAX? I know nothing about these things. Either point me to a good faq or a manual or just tell me how to check this thing out...I searched the net and after 20 minutes found close to nothing about this thing...the compaq site is a maze.... Unit powers on PS fans (3!) spin. Small leds in back (6?) near ports seem to cycle through in a "logical and non erratic way" at start up... There are 4 large memory boards. Counting the chips I suspect these boards hold 8 Megs each...4 boards...32Megs...built in ethernet from what I can see... Slot -0- in back does not have a cover anymore. There is nothing there...I suspect this held a video card (?) can I still hook this up headless to a terminal? I connected my trusty Wyse60 to this and after a short "POST" I get...: ?IO 5/rzl/vmunix (bb rd) >> Returns bring more >> prompts so I am talking to the box...So I guess it works... The thing has no floppy or keyboard connector...Just a SCSI port....how does it boot? -- from scsi cdrom? (linux something to try on this I suspect...?) Sorry about the questions but I know nothing about these VAX boxes... Thanks for the help Claude claudew(a)videotron.ca

23 years, 9 months

i286-Mainboard

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 3/27/01 3:32:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, mapr0003(a)stud.uni-sb.de writes: > > On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Richard Erlacher wrote: > > > > > AWARD also uses the DEL during POST as well, at least in about 10 of > the boxes I > > > have here. Phoenix uses <F1> at any time during POST, though I seldom > see that > > > one outside of Packard Bell, HP, and other U.S. makers' systems. > > > > Phoenix also used CTRL-ALT-ESC on some of the 286s that they provided > > BIOS for. > > It's an Ami Bios - the DEL key is used for going into the Configuration > Setup - BUT inside the Setup I cannot change the values for the amount of > memory, which I suppose is detected in the POST-routine ... I don't know > if it's a good idea to test all possible jumper settings in the nearer > area of the memory slots ;-) > > FWIW, you could try searching around on motherboards.org I'm not sure how far back they have information though.

23 years, 9 months

NeXT's, museums and a dead apple monitor

by agraham＠ccat.co.uk

>Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 16:18:03 -0800 (PST) >From: Cameron Kaiser <spectre(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu> >Subject: Re: NeXT's available > >Hi Curt: > >I'd definitely be interested in one of the Nextstations/monitors. My >zip is 92324 so that should be worst case as far as shipping :-) > >Thanks, Naaah, worse case as far as this list is concerned would be me in the UK or Iggy :) As for the recent banter about museums while we were researching the history of our house last week while I was on the tail end of a break because of depression and stress I had a wander round the 'computer' section of the museum - the archives section is part of the museum - and all it consisted of was an old teletype printer, a PET and a ZX81 all massively enclosed in glass cases! I'm in a quandry as to what to do when I eventually DO start exhibiting my stuff. If *I* was going to a computer museum I'd like to be able to use the machines as much as possible, but since it's all *my* stuff I'm paranoid about theft/damage etc since some of the machines took sweating blood to get here - my Lisa is a prime example. Also some of the machines are unused and still bagged up from when they were manufactured and I'm in two minds as to whether I should open 'em for educational purposes or keep 'em sealed for museum purposes. (Tony, I *know* you'd want to get them open :o)) I tinker with as much of the collection as is possible given the amount of time I've actually got spare (not a lot) for self-educational and research purposes; definitely not enough time though..... Oh yeah, I got a 1995 AppleVision 1710 monitor last weekend and I get no display on it; since it's the first one and not a later one can I safely assume it's suffered the most common fault for 1710s and I need a new Wave Deflection module? I think that's what it was called...... Recent additions to the museum site are some unopened Timex Sinclair stuff and a whole slew of adverts and reviews from a couple of early 80s UK mags - wallow in nostalgia :) s'it for now. cheers! -- Adrian Graham MCSE/ASE/MCP C CAT Limited Gubbins: http://www.ccat.co.uk (work) <http://www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk> (home) <http://www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk> (The Online Computer Museum) 0/0

23 years, 9 months

Boot disk / CP/M set for Morrow Micro-decision (MD2)

by geoffr＠zipcon.net

I have one of these beasties and it has 1 dying floppy with part of CP/M with it. I'd like to get a full copy of cp/m for this.

23 years, 9 months

Free - 17" Sun Sony Tinitron Monitor but....

by JRichardson＠softwright.co.uk

> I have a 17 inch Sony monitor (model GDM-1950) free to anyone who wants to > pick it up. The catch, it has a sync(?) problem and therefore doesn't > display anything very well. Beautiful (and huge and heavy) - if you can fix > it you'll have a great monitor. Email or call for info. Has to be out of > here in the next two weeks. Hmm, I've got a 16" version of one of these which I use now and again - the picture quality is far superior to most of the junk out there these days (I guess these things almost hit the 10 year mark? I believe mine was dated around '92) They work well under Linux if you're prepared to do a bit of tweaking of video modes - no need for a special graphics board. I believe I got mine working under DOS a few years ago with an old Trident video board too - one of the larger-column text modes happened to work with it nicely. there's quite a bit of tweaking that can be done inside the monitor too (be careful, obviously) if you're prepared for a few hours of suffering! Maybe someone knows what the options are for converting a fixed-frequency monitor to multisync? (Tony??) - can this even be done, is it way too much trouble etc.? Presumably fixed-frequency and multisync monitors are 90% the same inside (at least in concept)? Certainly the big old workstation monitors I've seen inside of seemed to be nicely broken into stages... cheers Jules

23 years, 9 months

New HP

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

I went scrounging again today and found a new source of old computers. There I found and passed up a HP 9000 835 and a HP 9836A. BUT I did bring home a HP 9000 520 (aka HP 9020). :-) I used to think the HP 9845 was big and heavy but not any more! I don't know much about the 520 except that they were supposed to be the replacement for the HP 9845 but had developement problems and were very late getting into production and few of them were sold. I believe it has BASIC in ROM but I'm not sure. Does anyone have docs for these? It has two HP-IB cables that are connected internally and a 15 pin socket under the front edge. What are they for? I picked up a HP 9153 hard drive that was in the same box with the 520. I'm hoping that there's software for the 520 on it. Joe

23 years, 9 months

Urgent Inquiry for ghetto blaster

by mike.kuehn＠bitways.de

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23 years, 9 months

SUN networking problems

by Arno_1983＠gmx.de

New details on the SUN networking issue became available yesterday evening when the second SUN decided to boot once more (we still don't know how that's possible as it had claimed to have lost its battery-buffered Setup information last time we powered it up a few months ago). However, both SUNs' transceivers and the cable work as each SUN can detect the other's presence. The printer cannot be pinged or sent data to, no matter which SUN tries or to which of the both remaining transceivers it is connected. Peter Turnbull wrote: >Have you tried pinging the printer by it's IP address instead of >it's name? Try a broadcast ping? No, not yet, but I will when I get home in the evening. Luckily, I found the IP adresses in a stack of handwritten papers we were given together with all that stuff. As we're not too familiar with the commands, how is a broadcast ping done? >Have you checked the printer settings to make sure it's using the >correct IP address? Is that set from its panel, or by RARP/BOOTP/ >DHCP? If the latter, it needs a server to boot. Tony Duell wrote: >That printer isn't attempting to get information (IP address, >software, whatever) from a server, is it? We're trying hard at the moment to find the printer manual. We know we have it somewhere, but it's buried... Peter Turnbull wrote: >If the Sun didn't get a valid signal from the transceiver when it >booted, it might not have enabled le0, or there might not be a route >through it. >Not necessarily, it might not have brought up the le0 interface if the >AUI cable was disconnected when it powered up. We switched off everything before reconnecting the cable and when we booted the next time, we did not get any le0 errors. Besides, the SUNs can see each other over the network, so the connection must be enabled. >However, if there is an LED for either transmit or receive, it >should flash when you try a ping. If it doesn't, either the Sun >isn't sending the packet or there's a short circuit. >Both LEDs? I'm guessing as to what the LEDs do, but that probably >means it's transmitting something. Maybe an ARP or BOOTP request. >It depends on what the LEDs do. One might be for collision, in >which case there's a cable fault if it flashes. More likely one is >transmit and the other receive, in which case what you see is >correct, it transmits a packet and simultaneously detects what it's >transmitting. >Hmm... What are the LEDs on the transceivers labelled? Mine have 5 >LEDs: Power, SQE, Transmit, Receive, and Collision. (I also have >several transceivers with no LEDs, or just one for power, but none >with three.) No, there isn't. The LEDs on the transceivers are only PWR (Power), SQE (as on yours) and COL (which must be Collision). Nothing for TX or RX, although that would be much more helpful for troubleshooting. -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net

23 years, 9 months

Apple Lisa-Sun Stuff

by LFessen106＠aol.com

In a message dated 3/26/01 9:56:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, brian.roth(a)firstniagarabank.com writes: > > I also have a couple of Sun SPARCstation LC's free to good homes. They do > work but no monitor, keyboard or mice. Just the lunchbox. Also, I do not have > the root passwords. > > Brian. I could use one of these Brian. -Linc Fessenden

23 years, 9 months

Vax 6000 Website update.

by geoffrob＠stmarks.pp.catholic.edu.au

Hi All, http://www.stmarks.pp.catholic.edu.au/vax Minor updates to the Vax 6000 Website. http://www.stmarks.pp.catholic.edu.au/vax Additions/Reformatting/Corrections to the Adapter listings. Thanks to Antonio Carlini for feeding me some tables of data that have now been integrated. There are now 2 Adapter pages, one for BI and one for XMI. Cheers Geoff Roberts Computer Systems Manager Saint Mark's College Port Pirie, South Australia geoffrob(a)stmarks.pp.catholic.edu.au netcafe(a)tell.net.au ICQ: 1970476

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test-drb March 2001