test-drb February 2001

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by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Jim Battle <frustum(a)pacbell.net> >anybody could clarify the relationship of the various Northstar disk >controller boards I have either seen on ebay or I've seen mentioned on the web: > > 1) "Micro-Disk System MDS-A" > 2) "MICRO-DISK MDS-A-D DOUBLE DENSITY" (I have the manual to this) > 3) MDS-AD2 > 4) MDC-A2 > 5) MDC-A3 > 6) MDC-A4 (I have one of these but haven't tried it yet) > ... and others? Ok, there are only two different controllers there. The single density MDS-An {single density} and the MDS-ADn{dual density}. The MDS-AD does both single density and double where the original MDS-A only can do single. The numeric variation stand for minor board variations. If you compare carefully you will see in the MDS-A series that some do not do all the pads for the etched edge connector. They are identical otherwise. >How do they compare? Does anybody have programming/technical docs for the >ones that I don't have? If it isn't a stretch (and I'd assume it isn't, There are only two sets of docs to worry about. They are common enough. I have both likely other do, copying them is problematic for me at this time {the extreme lack of}. >since they are all from Northstar), I would like to add support for the >other disk controllers, but without the docs that won't happen. The only other controller is in the NS* Advantage, uses the same basic design and read the same medias. >My real Sol has a "Micro Complex Phase Lock II" disk controller in it, Never heard of it. Allison

23 years, 5 months

[oldcalcs] Intel old chips

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

I thought this might be of interest to this list. Joe>From: "James Redin" <james(a)dotpoint.com> >Subject: [oldcalcs] Intel old chips > >Dear friends, > >I posted today in the Album section of my Website some pictures provided by >Stanley Mazor, the co-inventor of the microprocessor, showing the internals >of the early Intel chips. The pictures may be accessed as follows: > >VINTAGE CALCULATORS --> ELECTRONIC --> ALBUM --> "I" for Intel. > >As an interesting historical detail, one of the pictures is a photo of an >old Intel towel souvenir designed by Mr. Shima while he was working for >Intel during the development of the early micro-processors. It has on it >the circuit schematic (transistor level) for the MCS-4 (4004) 4-bit adder >and accumulator. It is also posted in the Album along with some comments >from Mr. Mazor. > >While there, you may want to read the article: > >The History of the Microcomputer - Invention and Evolution - by Stanley >Mazor, > >posted in the Articles section. > > >James Redin >The X-Number World >http://www.dotpoint.com/xnumber >mailto:james@dotpoint.com > > > >------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~-~> >eGroups is now Yahoo! Groups >Click here for more details >http://us.click.yahoo.com/kWP7PD/pYNCAA/4ihDAA/gWadlB/TM >---------------------------------------------------------------------_-> > >To Post a message, send it to: oldcalcs(a)eGroups.com >To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: oldcalcs-unsubscribe(a)eGroups.com > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

23 years, 5 months

Wicat 68000 based system ...

by optimus＠canit.se

William S. Morgart skrev: > Thanks but unless the docs are hardware related like at the device >programming level they're probably of not much use to me since I intend (or >would like to) use it as a base 68k platform ... ie put another OS on it.. I'm going to be nosy and direct: what OS? -- En ligne avec Thor 2.6. We have support for the PMAGC-B's on pmax right? That is a PixelVision based card right? I see Bt 463, that chip looks bigger than the 21164! Just looking at it makes me want to write an Xserver! Chris Tribo, NetBSD/pmax

23 years, 5 months

Sun keyboard cable? Straight thru?

by optimus＠canit.se

Claude.W skrev: >Perhaps you have seen my messages on starting up a sparc2. I am a sun >newbie.... ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> ><HTML><HEAD> Not to mention a newbie in general... -- En ligne avec Thor 2.6. And don't tell me there isn't one bit of difference between null and space, because that's exactly how much difference there is. :-) --Larry Wall in <10209(a)jpl-devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV>

23 years, 5 months

[dave@farber.net: IP: Can anyone help?]

by ecloud＠bigfoot.com

Please reply to Mr. Galler. ----- Forwarded message from David Farber <dave(a)farber.net> ----- To: ip-sub-1(a)majordomo.pobox.com From: David Farber <dave(a)farber.net> Subject: IP: Can anyone help? >Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 12:41:01 -0500 (EST) >X-Sender: galler(a)g.imap.itd.umich.edu >To: Interesting.People(a)umich.edu >From: "Bernard A. Galler" <galler(a)umich.edu> >Subject: IP: Can anyone help? >Cc: farber(a)linc.cis.upenn.edu, paint26(a)cwo.com > >A member of my family, now deceased, left his memoirs on what are described >to me as large AppleWriter disks, and we would like to retrieve the >contents. Does anyone know where we could get the contents converted to >more modern media? Thank you. >Bernie Galler > > > >Bernard A. Galler >E-mail: galler(a)umich.edu >Fax: 734-668-9998 For archives see: http://www.interesting-people.org/ ----- End forwarded message ----- -- _______ Shawn T. Rutledge / KB7PWD ecloud(a)bigfoot.com (_ | |_) http://www.bigfoot.com/~ecloud kb7pwd(a)kb7pwd.ampr.org __) | | \________________________________________________________________

23 years, 5 months

Sun keyboard cable? Straight thru?

by claudew＠videotron.ca

Hi Perhaps you have seen my messages on starting up a sparc2. I am a sun newbie.... Should the mini din8 cable to the keyboard be straight thru or have some pins crossed over? I opened up the type5 keyboard I have connected (sparc2 does not ID the keyboard...) and checked the 74LS06 chip where the rx-tx should be coming thru and I feel the chip heating up...abnormaly... Something tells me my cable to the keyboard may have the wrong config...Its not an original SUN one... I found the pinout for the keyboard but what about the connector at the sparc2 end...??? Claude

23 years, 5 months

Who was first with ^Z^X^C^V editing shortcuts

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

Aren't there TECO commands that perform these or similar functions. Mike mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu

23 years, 5 months

Who was first with ^Z^X^C^V editing shortcuts?

by eric-no-spam-for-me＠brouhaha.com

"Edwin P. Groot" <epgroot(a)ucdavis.edu> writes: > A thought occured to me as I was trying to figure out setting up > X-Windows to use certain editing shortcuts: > ^Z = Undo > ^X = Cut > ^C = Copy > ^V = Paste ;how the ^H^H^H^H does a v represent insert text from cut > buffer? > These are ubiquitous now in Windows programs, but who came up with > this group of editing shortcuts that cluster so neatly on the bottom left > of the keyboard, right by the Ctrl key back in the early micros? The Apple Lisa, introduced in January 1983. It wasn't the control key, though. It was the Apple key. But the principle's the same.

23 years, 5 months

Who was first with ^Z^X^C^V editing shortcuts?

by epgroot＠ucdavis.edu

A thought occured to me as I was trying to figure out setting up X-Windows to use certain editing shortcuts: ^Z = Undo ^X = Cut ^C = Copy ^V = Paste ;how the ^H^H^H^H does a v represent insert text from cut buffer? These are ubiquitous now in Windows programs, but who came up with this group of editing shortcuts that cluster so neatly on the bottom left of the keyboard, right by the Ctrl key back in the early micros? My bets are Microsoft stole it from Apple. I don't recall this from WordStar, with its myriad of Ctrl key combinations. One problem with ^C in CP/M and DOS is they would promptly take you to the OS prompt from most programs. Regards, Edwin

23 years, 5 months

Sun type5 keyboard on Sparc2

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 22, Claude.W wrote: > I got the Sparc2 a few weeks ago and cant get it to see the type5 keyboard I have to try it out with. > > I only have that one keyboard to test this so I don't know if there is a problem with the keyboard, sparc2, or its just that a type5 does not work on a sparc2. > > When I power on the keyboard, the leds flash on the keyboard (power ok to keyboard) , but I get a message on the sparc it cant ID the keyboard. > > I am suspecting the serial line trans/receiver chips for the keyboard serial line maybe have gone bad on the sparc, is that a frequent failure? Ill probe with a scope if I have to... That's not a frequent failure. I'd suspect a toasty keyboard. Can you get your hands on a different one to try? (The type5 works just fine on ss2s.) -Dave McGuire

23 years, 5 months

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test-drb February 2001