December 2001 - test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org

TK50-GA external SCSI tape unit + Microvax 3100 Desktop

by spedraja＠ono.com

>If the TK50 is terminated and the SCSI IDs are correct (tape drives >historically were ID5) and it's not seen at the console then something's >broken :) There should be a DIL switch on the back of the unit to set the ID Yes, it's in the back. I've tried all the adresses. >if I'm remembering right, and if you've got a stock MV3100 the internal >disks will probably be ID3 (system disk) and ID0 or 1 (data). >What SCSI cable are you using? One large Centronics SCSI to one large Centronics SCSI (I speak about the connectors in both extremes of cable). >To check that the drive itself is OK you can always take it out of its >expansion box, whip the cover off the VAX and connect directly to the >internal bus next to the 2 disks. I was think about it, but I should like to do something less "busy" ;-) Thanks and Greetings Sergio

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3com 1625-0

by spedraja＠ono.com

Dear fellows, thanks to all for the messages received until this moment about the MV 3100. With independence of this lovely machine, I have one new question. This can be difficult, I've located only 4 hits in Google and all of them referred to catalogs. Somebody has one 3com 1625-0 Coaxial FMS Hub ? I just received one. It's supposed this item has one variable voltage power supply that covers from 110 to 220 volts. Right ? It has too eight coaxial connectors, one AUI connector in the back, and... a couple ot mini-scsi connectors, one male and one female. The most dammned strange combination I saw until this moment. Do you have some info of interest about this item ? Thanks and Greetings Sergio

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TK50-GA external SCSI tape unit + Microvax 3100 Desktop

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> Michael Schneider wrote: > >So, i've learned something today 8-) > >All my 3100's (ok, i have only 3) have that crappy small 68pin connector >that wants this special cable that costs an arm and a leg. Either you've learned that you have a VAXstation 3100 or you have a @@LOOK@@ **RARE!!!** auction just waiting for ebay :-) >The 50pin has 3 rows, right? Then it's the "B1 Synchronous Port 1", >whatever this may be... I *knew* I shouldn't have hit Send so quickly :-) Yes, it is 50-pin and not 37. Normally this would be an understandable slip up, but having supported DEC synch cards for more than one hand's worth of years I cannot imagine how I let that one slip by. I'll just go and find a piece of wall to hammer my head against :-) Antonio

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More E-Bay Insanity?

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Douglas Quebbeman [mailto:dhquebbeman@theestopinalgroup.com] > Have 5.25 inch floppy drive cleaning kits > become unobtainium, or only for the clueless: [snip] > This is up there with the $500 Kaypro... That is insane. $50.00 "Reserve not yet met..." :) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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More E-Bay Insanity?

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 3, Christopher Smith wrote: > ... ok, I understand this perfectly (believe me!) but this is a head > cleaning kit, and anyone who's still got a 5.25" disk likely could take it > apart and clean the head without the kit. Yes, I agree...see my later message. :) Hmm...come to think of it, I have a genuine Radio Shack 5.25" head cleaning kit...I think I'll put it up on eBay and see how I do! 8-) -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

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More E-Bay Insanity?

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 3, Dave McGuire wrote: > > Have 5.25 inch floppy drive cleaning kits > > become unobtainium, or only for the clueless: > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1305651479 > > > > This is up there with the $500 Kaypro... > > Value is in the eye of the beholder, man. Why is it automatically > "insane" when someone else views omething as being more valuable than > we do? But [replying to my own message] I do feel compelled to state that $50 for a 5.25" head cleaning kit is utterly ridiculous... ;) -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

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Off-Topic: Re: Anyone have a MicroVax II in a BA123 available?

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>I mean it's gotta be annoying to the original poster to hear of others in >the area, with the "foo" he needs, but who don't want to get rid of it. >It's not bad that they have the "foo", but it seems like the reply is >rubbing his face in it.... Hey, I have a ton of extra foo, and I am willing to ship it, even international! LOL... ok, it is one of those days, I am in one of those moods... fear not, I understand your point, and I have to agree... getting your face rubbed in foo is no fun! :-) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Off-Topic: Re: Anyone have a MicroVax II in a BA123 available ?

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Rich Beaudry [mailto:r_beaudry@hotmail.com] > If you're not in the area, or you don't want to get rid of > it, why reply? If you're not in the area, then it's because somebody else who wants one might be closer to you. Would you not read similar messages if you were looking for the same item (not necessarily in the same area)? If you have one but don't want to get rid of it, then obviously you've already gone through the process of acquiring said piece of hardware and may be able to offer helpful advice. (Or not... :) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Microchannel ethernet NIC

by csmith＠amdocs.com

Anybody got one (see subject) they don't want? Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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TK50-GA external SCSI tape unit + Microvax 3100 Desktop

by spedraja＠ono.com

>> The machine has two scsi buses or ar least two SCSI connectors back, >> one large and another of lightly minor size. > >I cannot think of *any* MicroVAX or VAXstation that >has two SCSI connectors of *different* sizes. It has two connectors of Centronics type. One is a large Centronics type connector, over the three MMJ connectors. The other one is, seeing the CPU in its back, at the LEFT, covered by one semiespheric cover. This is a "short" Centronics connector. I have the TK50 connected actually to the large Centronics connector because is the same than the manufactured with the TK50. But this don't work, at least by now. I have no cable to connect the TK50Z-GA to the short Centronics connector. The central unit only put "Microvax 3100" in the front. Is a desktop, not a tower. Thanks and Greetings Sergio

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FLUKE?

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Dave McGuire [mailto:mcguire@neurotica.com] > The "bubble sort" is a classic sorting algorithm. That's probably > the algorithm the programmer used to sort the list of files. By way of description Standish says in "Data Structure Techniques:" "Let A[1:n] be an array of n numbers. ... Make repeated sweeps over the array A[1:n] from left to right. Upon detecting any adjacent pair of numbers A[i] and A[i+1] not in proper order, exchange them A[i] <-> A[i + 1]. When a pass is completed with no exchanges having been made, the process terminates. " I believe it's called bubble sort because the lesser numerical values tend to "bubble up" to the top of the array. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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TK50-GA external SCSI tape unit + Microvax 3100 Desktop

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>It has two connectors of Centronics type. One is a >large Centronics type connector, over the three >MMJ connectors. >The other one is, seeing the CPU in its back, at >the LEFT, covered by one semiespheric cover. >This is a "short" Centronics connector. I have a DV-31BTB-A which I know is a MicroVAX 3100 Model 20. Yours, according to the Systems & Options Catalogue I have, is a MicroVAX 3100 Model 10. On the back of mine there is (looking at the back): at the top middle: a DB37 labelled B2 (this is a socket with 37 pins) (I don't think this is available on the Model 10) in the middle row (from left to right) a connector labelled (4-11), this is for an asynch card (DSH32 I think) This is the same "style" as the SCSI connector (i.e., no pins) but is smaller. It is *NOT* a SCSI connector. another DB37 labelled DB37 this is over and slightly to the left of the 3 MMJ connectors. a final connector on the right, labelled with a diamond and a horizontal line through the right hand point. This is the SCSI connector. This connector is the only one that is identical to the connectors on the TK50Z. This is over the printer connector. Having said, if you have the right SCSI cable (i.e. the same connector at both ends) then I don't see how you can possibly have connected to the wrong place. (And it sounds like you have used the RIGHT hand connection and just are unsure what the other one is). BTW: The TK50Z box has two SCSI connections. It does not matter which one you use, but you *must* put a terminator on the other one if you expect the MicroVAX to see the tape drive. I've found a manual with pictures of the connectors. I can scan some pages on Wednesday and email them to you directly if necessary. So a few checks: -- are you using the correct (RIGHT hand) connector? -- Is the unused connector on the TK50Z filled by a terminator? -- What ID is the TK50Z set to? (Avoid 6 & 7 ... the CPU uses one of those ... I forget exactly which because it varied from system to system). -- Avoid any ID used by the existing drives, SHOW DEVICE will list these. The external SCSI bus may well be independent of the internal bus, in which case it will not matter, but again I cannot remember for this system. -- If it still does not work, what to the power up tests say? The error code (if any) should help to track this down. Antonio arcarlini(a)iee.org

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FYI: AT HOME

by mranalog＠attbi.com

Hi All, If anyone is expecting mail for an @HOME.com customer, you may have a small wait. @HOME shut down about midnight local time on Saturday. I was very lucky (I guess) because I was able to get back on the servers Sunday morning to change my account. I am no longer mranalog(a)home.com, I am now mranalog(a)attbi.com. AT&T says that some customers may be out of service for as much as 10 days. Of course, my service was back just long enough yesterday for me to resubscribe to to a few discussion lists and then it was out again. This morning sending mail seems fine but receiving mail is painfully slow. Regards, --Doug ========================================= Doug Coward Poulsbo, Washington Analog Computer Online Museum and History Center http://www.best.com/~dcoward/analog =========================================

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PDP-8/E bulbs

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Dec 3, 7:51, Tom Uban wrote: > I get replacement bulbs for my PDP11 at the local electronics store. If > you know the voltage, all you have to do is match the base. You may also > be able to find them at: http://www.digikey.com Hmm, I'd not be too sure about that. I believe the correct bulbs are 12V or perhaps 14V, T1-3/4 bi-pin, 0.04A (that's 40mA). I've seen 14V 80mA bulbs in a few places, but I'm not sure if they would be "safe" in the panel - they'd draw twice the current and I'm not sure if the driving transistors are rated for that. Anyone know? (I have a panel, but not a print set). If it's any help, I found some of the proper bulbs for my -8/E recently, and they are marked "OSHINO-1 12-09169" or "PL10161 1209169". I think the 12-09169 may be the DEC part number. On test, they draw between 30mA and 35mA at 12V, and between about 35mA and 40mA at 14V. The ones I've found in the Farnell catalogue (cat no 329-216) seem to be made by EBT Technologies, part no 7382, and they're 14V, 80mA, 1.12W, 3.8 lumens, nominal life 15000 hours, priced around 50p (about 72 cents) depending on quantity. I found the same bulbs slightly cheaper in the CPC catalogue, for those of us in the UK. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Microchannel ethernet NIC

by csmith＠amdocs.com

Probably RJ45. It is for a friend's machine, though, so I'll have to check. I have gotten an offer of an RJ45 board via email, though, if that's the case. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); ' > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris [mailto:mythtech@Mac.com] > >Anybody got one (see subject) they don't want? > Do you want BNC, RJ45, or AUI? > I have one that is BNC and AUI, and one that is RJ45 and BNC, and one > that I think is ethernet that is BNC only.

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FLUKE?

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 3, Lawrence Walker wrote: > I have a program by Charles Martin called CMFiler which I have used for > years and consider indispensable for exploring Doze machines. It is > somewhat like NC but with many more features and has worked (in a dos > window) thru all the MS upgrades(?) up to Win 98 at least. > It would occasionally give a message "bubble-sorting files" when I accessed > a drive. Does this simply mean sequentially ordering ? The "bubble sort" is a classic sorting algorithm. That's probably the algorithm the programmer used to sort the list of files. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

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Wang info

by jdonogh1＠prodigy.net

I have started putting together some wang info pages on the web, for obsolete/historic systems such as the OIS, and soon, early VS systems. It's just a start right now, but some of it is there for all to see at http://pages.prodigy.net/jdonogh1/wang.html

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Ebay madness -- Kaypro II for $515

by CLeyson＠aol.com

I hope this madness doesn't start a trend - where would that leave the serious enthusiast ? It does beg the question - might it be worth more with "purple" ceramic packages ? ;-) Chris Leyson

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Microchannel ethernet NIC

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>Anybody got one (see subject) they don't want? Do you want BNC, RJ45, or AUI? I have one that is BNC and AUI, and one that is RJ45 and BNC, and one that I think is ethernet that is BNC only. The BNC only one is the only one NOT in use, the others are in machines. I can part with one, but it will mean swapping the machine off the network, so I can't part with it for nothing. If you have good Mac or Apple stuff I can consider a trade, otherwise I can sell it to you (I am not sure what a fair price is, but it will cost me about $25 to deal with replacing it and the machine it comes from). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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History of Computing exam question

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

Because it had "IBM" on the front, which gave it validity in the business world. Could you imagine some mid-level/upper-level executive with an Apple II on his desk? Being first, or being the best, does not guarantee success. -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Smith [mailto:csmith@amdocs.com] Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 12:16 PM To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org' Subject: RE: History of Computing exam question <snip> I have no idea how the peesee actually lasted as long as it has. <snip> Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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PDP-8/E bulbs

by uban＠ubanproductions.com

I get replacement bulbs for my PDP11 at the local electronics store. If you know the voltage, all you have to do is match the base. You may also be able to find them at: http://www.digikey.com --tom At 10:19 PM 12/2/01 -0800, you wrote: >I'm making progress on the PDP-8/E I got this last week. The powersupply >checks out once the Front Panel is plugged in, and thanks to all the spare >lightbulbs I've got all the burnt out bulbs replaced. Unfortunatly I'm now >down to two spares which my -8/m could probably use, the -8/e had nearly >half it's bulbs out. This brings up the question, how hard is it to get >replacement bulbs? > > Zane >-- >| Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | >| healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | >| | Classic Computer Collector | >+----------------------------------+----------------------------+ >| Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | >| PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | >| http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ | > >

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Is it a Lisa or Mac XL?!

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> I understand discontinuing a product but could never quite figure out why > you would actually destroy equipment. I mean what is the point? I'd imagine they were concerned about 10,000 MacXLs cutting into the selling of Mac 512ke & Mac Plus models... OTOH, if it happened during the Jobs era, no logic or reason was likely involved; Jobs has a proven track record of killing Apple products he personally dislikes. But pepsiboy may have been Lisa's nail-in-the-coffin, I just can't recall... -dq

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Anyone have a MicroVax II in a BA123 available?

by msell＠ontimesupport.com

Hello, I saw a couple of MicroVax II's over the weekend and they look like good project machines. Does anyone in the Houston, TX area have any they want to part with? Never hurts to ask! - Matt Matthew Sell Programmer On Time Support, Inc. www.ontimesupport.com (281) 296-6066 Join the Metrology Software discussion group METLIST! http://www.ontimesupport.com/cgi-bin/mojo/mojo.cgi "One World, One Web, One Program" - Microsoft Promotional Ad "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitler Many thanks for this tagline to a fellow RGVAC'er...

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Scrapping hardware to get it off the books

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

! From: Chris [mailto:mythtech@Mac.com] ...... ! But I will take anything Apple related that people will just give me ! (although not everything stays with me, better useable macs ! get given out ! to people that can't afford a computer... for instance, the ! Classic II I ! got from David I am giving to someone for Xmas that has no ! computer, the ! kid can at least use it for writing school papers, checking ! email, basic ! web browsing, and playing some games... it is a step ahead of the ! nothingness he can use right now). ! ! -chris Well, I should've just sent the LCII along also, if I knew that. No-one seems to want it! --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

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Anyone have a MicroVax II in a BA123 available?

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Tothwolf [mailto:tothwolf@concentric.net] > On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Matthew Sell wrote: > > I saw a couple of MicroVax II's over the weekend and they look like > > good project machines. Does anyone in the Houston, TX area have any > > they want to part with? > > Never hurts to ask! > I'm in Houston and have a MircoVax II, but I don't really want to part > with it...I bought mine for a project machine a few years ago, but I > really don't know when I'll get around to getting it up and running. I'm not in the area. I do have an enclosure for a MicroVAX II, and some boards (CPU and some RAM) I believe I tested the CPU, and it's working. The RAM may not work with that specific CPU, and the enclosure has power-supply problems. (basically it's all left-overs from when I was trying to get parts for mine) I don't want to ship, though, since it may as well be a 3-foot-tall block of solid lead. Nice machines -- built like tanks ;) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Ebay madness -- Kaypro II for $515

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Wayne M. Smith [mailto:wmsmith@earthlink.net] > Two guys who have bid up a Kaypro II to $515 on eBay . . . and there's > still 13 hours left. [snip] > I'm going to get my "rare" "museum-grade" Kaypro 4 up for > auction right > away! I suppose my $3 kaypro 2 was a good investment, then. Wonderful machine, btw -- built like a tank. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Sun Roadrunner

by LFessen106＠aol.com

In a message dated 12/3/01 11:08:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, vance(a)ikickass.org writes: > Hey people. I was wondering if anyone here were familiar with the > internals of the Sun Roadrunner (386i). Specifically, I am looking for > someone who can tell me exactly what is different between a Roadrunner and > a PC. Depending on how difficult it will be, I might try to build a > modern Roadrunner from new commodity components. I have an actual > 386i/25, and a 486i for compatibility testing. > > Peace... Sridha > > You have a 486i? Wow! I have a 386i, but can't really get it working *yet* because it has a bad prom.. -Linc Fessenden In The Beginning there was nothing, which exploded - Yeah right... Calculating in binary code is as easy as 01,10,11.

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Off Topic - stereo to PC question

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Carlos Murillo [mailto:cmurillo@emtelsa.multi.net.co] > Get a good cassette deck; I hope that your tapes were recorded > using Dolby C, or at least B. In either case, the high > freq response is already lost, but during playback/recording, > you might actually null out some high frq noise... As long as we're hypothetically copying hard to find tapes, and willing to shell out for hardware, you might also consider a recording device that was designed for the task. It seems to me that one can get a decent digital multitracking device for the cost of a decent multitracking software package these days ;) (I may be exaggerating here... but they're cheap) For instance, I've seen a new unit -- a Boss BR-532 -- which records on "smartmedia" (4-track), and lists around $400 (I think). I hear that the 128M cards, which are said to hold 90 minutes of audio run about $45. Obviously this uses some compression, and you wouldn't get the best quality, but it would provide an easy way of mixing some of the hiss out and adding some mastering effects if you'd like. This might also be problematic for recording a cassette tape since I think it only has one channel in. (You could do it, though) I wouldn't use this for doing original recording personally, but for re-mastering a cassette, or other light-duty stuff, it may be just the ticket. I personally have a Fostex VF08, which I paid about $480 for from audiolines.com, but which lists around $599. It's a slightly more heavy solution, and has 5GB or so of disk in it. No compression, sound records at 44.1khz 16-bit. The unit also has 20-bit ADC and 24-bit DAC with 64/128x oversampling respectively. It's an 8-track unit with 2 channels in. I can tell you from experience that this machine could probably make "smashing pumpkins" sound good. (My opinion, of course... and don't get me started on "smashing pumpkins.") (These are mostly from memory, so I might be wrong on some of this... look it up) At any rate, one could record, mix, and master the cassette on a similar unit, and transfer the resulting digital audio to your computer through the SPDIF digital out. Wow, that was tangential. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Sun Roadrunner

by vance＠ikickass.org

Hey people. I was wondering if anyone here were familiar with the internals of the Sun Roadrunner (386i). Specifically, I am looking for someone who can tell me exactly what is different between a Roadrunner and a PC. Depending on how difficult it will be, I might try to build a modern Roadrunner from new commodity components. I have an actual 386i/25, and a 486i for compatibility testing. Peace... Sridha

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B+H Iris board sets

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

Free for postage/shipping (or pickup in Chicago): 4 - B+H Iris (ca. 1986-88) 2-slot/3-board sets: CPU Board w/TMX34010 32-bit Graphis System Processor, 32 chips D41264-15 Video RAM; SCSI (?) board; Parallel Printer/Scanner board. 2 sets are complete, 1 is missing the TMX chip, 1 is missing the TMX and a Bt454KPJ170 chip. 1 copy Texas Instruments TMS34010 User's Guide. Board sets weigh 2 lb 3 oz each. email me off-list at Robert_Feldman(a)jdedwards.com.

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Looking for CPT 9000 word processor

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Vintage Computer Festival [mailto:vcf@vintage.org] > I am looking for a CPT 9000 word processor, circa 1988. It has a page > display and is based on an Intel 80286. I have one, but I think I'm keeping it, at least for now. They're interesting machines. The full-page white-mono EGA graphics setup is a nice touch. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Off Topic - stereo to PC question

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Zane H. Healy [mailto:healyzh@aracnet.com] > I use a combination of RayGun and Bias Peak on a Echo Products Darla24 > soundcard. I've dedicated my old PowerMac 8500/180 to this, though > hopefully one of these days I'll be able to move it to a > souped up 9500 or > 9600. > There are simular solutions for Windows based PC's. For windows, centrillium (I doubt that's the proper spelling) software's "cool edit" is a decent editor, with (IIRC) a downloadable demo. Nothing too fancy, but it will probably "transfer ... from cassette" with no problem. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Free PDP 11/23 and disk drive (UK)

by spedraja＠ono.com

Hello, Stuart. Impossible shipping to Santander, Spain ? (by Mail or Transport Agency). Thanks and Greetings Sergio -----Mensaje original----- De: Stuart Birchall <stuart(a)zen.co.uk> Para: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Fecha: lunes, 03 de diciembre de 2001 15:27 Asunto: Free PDP 11/23 and disk drive (UK) >Populated and once operational (still should be) PDP 11/23 CPU, and a disk >drive. >Free collection, northwest UK. >Thanks. > >

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Kalpana Etherswitch docs/firmware?

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

They got bought by Cisco, which seems to have buried the product. Anybody got docs/firmware for either a Kalpana Etherswitch EPS-1500 or a 2015-RS? Thanks. Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

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O.T. S. ring is at it again

by jrice＠texoma.net

I keep getting replies to my own posts from S. ring containing a virus.

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TK50-GA external SCSI tape unit + Microvax 3100 Desktop

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Carlini, Antonio <Antonio.Carlini(a)riverstonenet.com> >The VAXstation 3100s pretty much all have a single >SCSI connector (the small size - HD68 is what I've >seen it called in the past). I have them with HD68 (VS3100/m76) and standard Amphenol 50 (Vaxserver3100m10e and Microvax3100/m10E). >The MicroVAX 3100 series machines are all >(IIRC) in one of two similar boxes - the >only difference being the height (the larger >one has two trays on to which hard drives >may be mounted - the smaller one has >only one tray). Looking at the back, The smaller can mount up to three drives internally and one externally accessable media (floppy, TK70 or Cdrom). Then there is the BA42 storage box which is the same siaze as a basic 3100 bit hold two 5.25" full height drives typically RZ55 or RZ56. I have a few of these. The connector is Cannon/amphenol 50 pin. Allison

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FLUKE?

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

It's not RAM per se. It's basically a disk like structure, the difference is rather than rotate the media they move the magnetic domains around. I have a few 128kbyte (1Mbit) bubbles I use still. Allison -----Original Message----- From: Jochen Kunz <jkunz(a)unixag-kl.fh-kl.de> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Monday, December 03, 2001 4:11 AM Subject: Re: FLUKE? >On 2001.12.03 04:27 jeff.kaneko(a)juno.com wrote: > >> with optional bubble memory >What is this? A type of RAM? Whow does it work?

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TK50-GA external SCSI tape unit + Microvax 3100 Desktop

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

The problem may be that it's not a SCSI TK50 but the SASI interfaced TK50 for the MV2000. The difference is the firmware on the SCSI/SASI interface card. Allison -----Original Message----- From: Michael Schneider <ms(a)silke.rt.schwaben.de> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Monday, December 03, 2001 3:10 AM Subject: Re: TK50-GA external SCSI tape unit + Microvax 3100 Desktop >Some more datapoints, please: > >- Do you have a TK50 or a TK50Z (I think the "Z" is the indication that >it is indeed the real SCSI variant)? Does it have an SCSI-ID-switch on >the back? >- What model is your '3100? Just plain "MicroVAX3100", or is there some >M-Number (like "M40")? >- What *does* "SHOW DEV" say? >- Do you have one or two SCSI-Busses? Or, maybe easier to answer: Does >the machine have a floppy drive installed? >- Does one (or both) of the internal disks "disappear" whenever you plug >in the TK50? > >Anyway, usually problems with SCSI-Devices are due to either termination >problems, bad cables or conflicting SCSI-ID's. > >regards > >ms > > >On Sun, 2001-12-02 at 22:15, SP wrote: >> Hello. I have one problem I'd like somebody could >> help me to solve. I have one TK50-GA external >> SCSI tape unit + Microvax 3100 Desktop. >> The Microvax can't detect the TK50. This tape unit >> works perfectly. I have the cover of it retired, and >> I have located the ribbon that aid to select the >> SCSI address of the unit. The Microvax >> haven't attached any other external unit, and >> internally have two disks. >> >> How can I know if the unit is attached ? >> The SHOW DEVICES in the boot ROM don't says >> nothing. >> >> Greetings >> >> Sergio >> >> >> >> >> >> >-- >Michael Schneider email: ms(a)silke.rt.schwaben.de >Germany http://www.vaxcluster.de > > People disagree with me. I just ignore them. > (Linus Torvalds) > >

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TK50-GA external SCSI tape unit + Microvax 3100 Desktop

by Adrian.Graham＠corporatemicrosystems.com

If the TK50 is terminated and the SCSI IDs are correct (tape drives historically were ID5) and it's not seen at the console then something's broken :) There should be a DIL switch on the back of the unit to set the ID if I'm remembering right, and if you've got a stock MV3100 the internal disks will probably be ID3 (system disk) and ID0 or 1 (data). What SCSI cable are you using? To check that the drive itself is OK you can always take it out of its expansion box, whip the cover off the VAX and connect directly to the internal bus next to the 2 disks. HTH > -----Original Message----- > From: SP [mailto:spedraja@ono.com] > Sent: 02 December 2001 21:16 > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: TK50-GA external SCSI tape unit + Microvax 3100 Desktop > > > Hello. I have one problem I'd like somebody could > help me to solve. I have one TK50-GA external > SCSI tape unit + Microvax 3100 Desktop. > The Microvax can't detect the TK50. This tape unit > works perfectly. I have the cover of it retired, and > I have located the ribbon that aid to select the > SCSI address of the unit. The Microvax > haven't attached any other external unit, and > internally have two disks. > > How can I know if the unit is attached ? > The SHOW DEVICES in the boot ROM don't says > nothing. > > Greetings > > Sergio > > > > >

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TK50-GA external SCSI tape unit + Microvax 3100 Desktop

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> The machine has two scsi buses or ar least two SCSI connectors back, > one large and another of lightly minor size. I cannot think of *any* MicroVAX or VAXstation that has two SCSI connectors of *different* sizes. The VAXstation 3100s pretty much all have a single SCSI connector (the small size - HD68 is what I've seen it called in the past). The VAXstation 4000-9x/60 have one Amphenol 50-way SCSI connector (the expansion boxes have two, but connected as an in-out bus). I forget about the 4000-VLC, but it cannot really have room for more than one connector! The MicroVAX 3100 series machines are all (IIRC) in one of two similar boxes - the only difference being the height (the larger one has two trays on to which hard drives may be mounted - the smaller one has only one tray). Looking at the back, there should be three connectors across the top (I think these connectors are always there, even if they are not used internally). The right-most connector (looking from the back, I think) should be the SCSI port; it is a 50-way amphenol connector. This is the same as the conectors on a TK50Z. Antonio arcarlini(a)iee.org

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Antron MST300 (was:RE: Up for Grabs: Intel ICE boxs and pods )

by Adrian.Graham＠corporatemicrosystems.com

That's one hell of a pair of cards :) My stuff is definitely Antron though. Their website is at http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.antron/ and they're still doing the same thing.... cheers > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe [mailto:rigdonj@intellistar.net] > Sent: 30 November 2001 18:54 > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Antron MST300 (was:RE: Up for Grabs: Intel ICE boxs and > pods) > > > If you mean Atron then yes I've heard of them. if fact, I was just > searching for info on them this morning. I have two full length IBM PC > style cards that are both marked "Atron", one plugs into an 8 > bit ISA slot > and the other plugs into a 16-bit ISA slot. The cards have a > ribbon cable > that connects them together at the top. One is marked "Master > Break Trace" > and the other is marked "Slave Break Trace". (looks like > they're for an > emulator). Both boards have a large male 3U type connector on > the outside. > I've posted a picture at > <http://www.intellistar.net/~rigdonj/ebay/boards.jpg>. FWIW > I pulled these > out of an old 286 Compaq Deskpro. I wanted to get the drive > but it was > already gone :-( > > Joe > > > At 05:13 PM 11/30/01 -0000, you wrote: > >Speaking of chip testers has anyone come across the Antron > company and their > >testing equipment? Antron are still going and still selling > test kit to the > >likes of Compaq, but since they didn't reply to my email I'm > assuming they > >had no old documentation. > > > >Basically the MST300 is a 386 based PC with 2 extra ISA > cards that interface > >with the testing 'pods'. I've got pods for the 8086, 80286, > 80386SX and DX, > >Moto 68K and I'm still not sure what they were supposed to > be testing! > > > >I'll post pix on Binary Dinosaurs when I get 'em taken :) > > > >-- > >Adrian Graham, Corporate Microsystems Ltd > >e: adrian.graham(a)corporatemicrosystems.com > >w: www.corporatemicrosystems.com > >w2: www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk (Online Computer Museum) > > >

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TK50-GA external SCSI tape unit + Microvax 3100 Desktop

by spedraja＠ono.com

Hello: >Some more datapoints, please: > >- Do you have a TK50 or a TK50Z (I think the "Z" is the indication that >it is indeed the real SCSI variant)? Does it have an SCSI-ID-switch on >the back? It's a TK50Z-GA. Real SCSI (not like the TK50Z-FA for the VS2000). And it has the SCSI ID selector back. >- What model is your '3100? Just plain "MicroVAX3100", or is there some >M-Number (like "M40")? DV-31ATB-A I don't have more info. I think is the more basic Microvax 3100 Desktop Model. I've located only one reference in Google about this model, in one Reseller's Catalog. >- What *does* "SHOW DEV" say? I must check it and print it. >- Do you have one or two SCSI-Busses? Or, maybe easier to answer: Does >the machine have a floppy drive installed? The machine has two scsi buses or ar least two SCSI connectors back, one large and another of lightly minor size. It don't has floppies installed. >- Does one (or both) of the internal disks "disappear" whenever you plug >in the TK50? The VMS boot goes perfect and detects both disks. One is for the system and the other for the user data (at least in my first inquiries). >Anyway, usually problems with SCSI-Devices are due to either termination >problems, bad cables or conflicting SCSI-ID's. It appears the SCSI id's are correctly adjusted. I suspect a little more about the SCSI cable, but it works with other machines. Thanks and Greetings Sergio

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TK50-GA external SCSI tape unit + Microvax 3100 Desktop

by spedraja＠ono.com

Hello. I have one problem I'd like somebody could help me to solve. I have one TK50-GA external SCSI tape unit + Microvax 3100 Desktop. The Microvax can't detect the TK50. This tape unit works perfectly. I have the cover of it retired, and I have located the ribbon that aid to select the SCSI address of the unit. The Microvax haven't attached any other external unit, and internally have two disks. How can I know if the unit is attached ? The SHOW DEVICES in the boot ROM don't says nothing. Greetings Sergio

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History of Computing exam question

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) [mailto:cisin@xenosoft.com] > Leaving Hitler out of a world history would be like leaving > IBM PC (5150) > out of a list of significant computers. I took the question a different way. As I interpreted it, the computers were supposed to be "significant" in terms of design. The IBM PC wasn't. It was pretty much all re-hash of something else. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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PDP-8/E bulbs

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

I'm making progress on the PDP-8/E I got this last week. The powersupply checks out once the Front Panel is plugged in, and thanks to all the spare lightbulbs I've got all the burnt out bulbs replaced. Unfortunatly I'm now down to two spares which my -8/m could probably use, the -8/e had nearly half it's bulbs out. This brings up the question, how hard is it to get replacement bulbs? Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

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FLUKE?

by KenzieM＠sympatico.ca

I was at the other yard of the scrapper yesterday. He just had in a bunch of IBM 3174's and a few large Hitachi data storage units. Beside this was another large unit labelled FLUKE. It's too late for it but I did get the 8" floppy disks for it. It was raining so they got a bit wet. They are drying now. Does anyone know anything about FLUKE machines? Collector of Vintage Computers (www.ncf.ca/~ba600)

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AW: Atari 4160STE ?!

by walgen＠e-Spirit.de

Hi Curt, > While I don't have every single ST component listed, the ST section under > Atari Computers on my website should be of help to you: > www.atarimuseum.com Of course I checked your web-site first for infos about the 4160STe :) Perhaps some day you have the time to make a complete list of all Atari Computer Systems - I think there are quite a few unkown systems like the Atari ST520+, CLab Falcon MK I, II and X - there also was an Atari 520 STE - very strange ... > The 4160STe was going to be a 4mb Europe release of the ST but was > cut from production at the last minute, a few samples are floating > about, perhaps my machine is one of those. It has a 4160 label - although I am not completly sure if it is an original factory installed label or if it has been added later due to a memory upgrade. On the bottom site the label reads "1040STE" and has a large black sticker "4MB". The Serial Number is X2 040551 - never seen anything like "X2" on an Atari ST machine usualy the serial numbers start with "A1" ... if anyone is interested I have put some pictures on: http://www.homecomputer.de/tmp/4160_top.jpg http://www.homecomputer.de/tmp/4160_bottom.jpg Stefan. www.HomeComputer.de

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ICOT 57 Terminal

by univac2＠earthlink.net

I bought a working ICOT Model 57 Terminal at a thrift store tonight. It was used with the American Airlines SABRE system. Does anyone have a keyboard for it, or know anything about it? I'm assuming its interface is RS-232. Am I right? Thanks, Owen

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NeXT stuff

by vance＠ikickass.org

Ok. I had borrowed a soundbox and cables for my NeXT, but the person from whom I had borrowed them wants them back. Does anyone have an extra non-ADB soundbox and cables for a NeXT color slab available? My monitor has 3BNC connection. Also, (I know I am doing a bit of wishful thinking here), does anyone have a Pyro accelerator board for a slab, they wouldn't mind selling? Peace... Sridhar

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Tall Tree Systems`JRAM-3'

by mhstein＠usa.net

Oh yeah... I know exactly what you mean... ----------Original Message---------- I did something real stupid when I moved out of my office. I tried to organize the stuff that I was packing. For example, I put all of my staplers (regular ones, binding ones, heavy duty ones, deep throat ones, ....) into one box. Now I can't find 'em, and have NO stapler.

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