28 Nov
2001
28 Nov
'01
8:03 a.m.
I understand discontinuing a product but could never
quite figure out why
you would actually destroy equipment. I mean what is the point?
I'd imagine they were concerned about 10,000 MacXLs cutting
into the selling of Mac 512ke & Mac Plus models...
OTOH, if it happened during the Jobs era, no logic or
reason was likely involved; Jobs has a proven track
record of killing Apple products he personally dislikes.
But pepsiboy may have been Lisa's nail-in-the-coffin,
I just can't recall...
-dq
28 Nov
28 Nov
12:27 p.m.
I understand discontinuing a product but could never
quite figure out why
you would actually destroy equipment. I mean what is the point?
Must be a marketing thing. Not uncommon. There's a matching
story about Polaroid accepting 50's era models in trade for a
discount on 60's models, then tossing the lot of them. (To be
exact, the published folklore said they in this case were tossed
into a warehouse but I don't think they actually knew).
John A.
12:28 p.m.
New subject: Martha Stewart
Martha Stewart had a short radio column today
where She actually preached the ethics of classiccmpers.
That is, what do you do with old computers? Number 1
was don't toss it (yes), until you check with your local schools,
even if you are sure it is obsolete (yes), if you can't place
it this way, she continues by mentioning that some people
actually collect them as vintage (yes), and then brings up
eBay as a sort of last resort (sorry).
Good press that we all need.
John A.
Project Greenkeys.
29 Nov
29 Nov
2:11 a.m.
New subject: Martha Stewart
Surprised she didn't preach using them as decorative items - a "good thing"
-> -----Original Message-----
-> From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
-> [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of John Allain
-> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 8:28 PM
-> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
-> Subject: Martha Stewart
->
->
-> Martha Stewart had a short radio column today
-> where She actually preached the ethics of classiccmpers.
-> That is, what do you do with old computers? Number 1
-> was don't toss it (yes), until you check with your local schools,
-> even if you are sure it is obsolete (yes), if you can't place
-> it this way, she continues by mentioning that some people
-> actually collect them as vintage (yes), and then brings up
-> eBay as a sort of last resort (sorry).
->
-> Good press that we all need.
->
-> John A.
-> Project Greenkeys.
->
->
2:56 a.m.
New subject: Martha Stewart
That's kind of weird, I wouldn't have thought Martha Stewart would even
consider computers to be in her realm of influence.
I've actually though of painting a computer using Martha Stewartish
techniques...... like stamping or rag rolling or maybe some of that
stone fleck stuff. I haven't done it yet, Though. It will still be a
functioning computer, just a little more creative.
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
Russ Blakeman wrote:
Surprised she didn't preach using them as decorative items - a "good
thing"
->
-> Martha Stewart had a short radio column today
-> where She actually preached the ethics of classiccmpers.
-> That is, what do you do with old computers? Number 1
-> was don't toss it (yes), until you check with your local schools,
-> even if you are sure it is obsolete (yes), if you can't place
-> it this way, she continues by mentioning that some people
-> actually collect them as vintage (yes), and then brings up
-> eBay as a sort of last resort (sorry).
->
-> Good press that we all need.
->
-> John A.
-> Project Greenkeys.
->
->
3:08 a.m.
New subject: Martha Stewart
Her column the day before was about cleaning the computer (outside
only)...
George Rachor
=========================================================
George L. Rachor Jr. george(a)rachors.com
Hillsboro, Oregon http://rachors.com
United States of America Amateur Radio : KD7DCX
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Chad Fernandez wrote:
That's kind of weird, I wouldn't have thought
Martha Stewart would even
consider computers to be in her realm of influence.
I've actually though of painting a computer using Martha Stewartish
techniques...... like stamping or rag rolling or maybe some of that
stone fleck stuff. I haven't done it yet, Though. It will still be a
functioning computer, just a little more creative.
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
Russ Blakeman wrote:
Surprised she didn't preach using them as decorative items - a "good
thing"
->
-> Martha Stewart had a short radio column today
-> where She actually preached the ethics of classiccmpers.
-> That is, what do you do with old computers? Number 1
-> was don't toss it (yes), until you check with your local schools,
-> even if you are sure it is obsolete (yes), if you can't place
-> it this way, she continues by mentioning that some people
-> actually collect them as vintage (yes), and then brings up
-> eBay as a sort of last resort (sorry).
->
-> Good press that we all need.
->
-> John A.
-> Project Greenkeys.
->
->
3:14 a.m.
New subject: Martha Stewart
A couple of years ago, she dated Charles Simonyi, chief software architect
of Microsoft and former Xerox PARC scientist who wrote the first WYSIWYG
word processor. Maybe that's where she gets it.
--Mike
Michael Nadeau
Editorial Services
603-893-2379
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Fernandez" <fernande(a)internet1.net>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: Martha Stewart
That's kind of weird, I wouldn't have thought
Martha Stewart would even
consider computers to be in her realm of influence.
I've actually though of painting a computer using Martha Stewartish
techniques...... like stamping or rag rolling or maybe some of that
stone fleck stuff. I haven't done it yet, Though. It will still be a
functioning computer, just a little more creative.
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
Russ Blakeman wrote:
>
> Surprised she didn't preach using them as decorative items - a "good
thing"
->
-> Martha Stewart had a short radio column today
-> where She actually preached the ethics of classiccmpers.
-> That is, what do you do with old computers? Number 1
-> was don't toss it (yes), until you check with your local schools,
-> even if you are sure it is obsolete (yes), if you can't place
-> it this way, she continues by mentioning that some people
-> actually collect them as vintage (yes), and then brings up
-> eBay as a sort of last resort (sorry).
->
-> Good press that we all need.
->
-> John A.
-> Project Greenkeys.
->
->
5:01 a.m.
New subject: Martha Stewart
O! And I was going to say maybe she is a closet classic computer user.. ;)
-Bryan
A couple of years ago, she dated Charles Simonyi, chief software architect
of Microsoft and former Xerox PARC scientist who wrote the first WYSIWYG
word processor. Maybe that's where she gets it.
That's kind of weird, I wouldn't have
thought Martha Stewart would even
consider computers to be in her realm of influence.
I've actually though of painting a computer using Martha Stewartish
techniques...... like stamping or rag rolling or maybe some of that
stone fleck stuff. I haven't done it yet, Though. It will still be a
functioning computer, just a little more creative.
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
Russ Blakeman wrote:
>
> Surprised she didn't preach using them as decorative items - a "good
thing"
->
-> Martha Stewart had a short radio column today
-> where She actually preached the ethics of classiccmpers.
-> That is, what do you do with old computers? Number 1
-> was don't toss it (yes), until you check with your local schools,
-> even if you are sure it is obsolete (yes), if you can't place
-> it this way, she continues by mentioning that some people
-> actually collect them as vintage (yes), and then brings up
-> eBay as a sort of last resort (sorry).
->
-> Good press that we all need.
->
-> John A.
-> Project Greenkeys.
->
->
3:52 a.m.
New subject: Martha Stewart
Surprised she didn't preach using them as
decorative items - a "good thing"
You mean you don't use some of yours as decorative items or furnature? :^)
Zane
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| Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator |
| healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast |
| | Classic Computer Collector |
+----------------------------------+----------------------------+
| Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, |
| PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. |
| http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |
4:47 a.m.
New subject: Martha Stewart
Zane H. Healy
Actually I'd like to find a nice way to hid various components so that
they don't show up at first glance. Of course this is related to my HA
background (hobby of course) and the fact that if I had a PDP 8 it
would look a little out of place in my living room (I've got the
garage and a computer for my 'stuff').
--
Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry(a)home.net
http://members.home.net/ncherry (Text only)
http://linuxha.sourceforge.net/ (SourceForge)
http://hcs.sourceforge.net/ (HCS II)
Surprised she didn't preach using them as
decorative items - a "good thing"
You mean you don't use some of yours as decorative items or furnature? :^) 
6:01 a.m.
New subject: Martha Stewart
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Zane H. Healy wrote:
I have a friend who used stacked Kaypros as end tables.
- don
Surprised she
didn't preach using them as decorative items - a "good thing"
You mean you don't use some of yours as decorative items or furnature? :^)
Zane
--
| Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator |
| healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast |
| | Classic Computer Collector |
+----------------------------------+----------------------------+
| Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, |
| PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. |
| http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |
9:36 a.m.
New subject: Martha Stewart
I was going to mention that but last discussion about PS/2 towers as bed
tables and PDP's for living room stuff got nasty so I thought I'd hold that
thought :-)
-> -----Original Message-----
-> From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
->
-> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 11:52 AM
-> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
-> Subject: RE: Martha Stewart
->
->
-> >Surprised she didn't preach using them as decorative items - a
-> "good thing"
->
-> You mean you don't use some of yours as decorative items or
-> furnature? :^)
->
-> Zane
-> --
-> | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator |
-> | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast |
-> | | Classic Computer Collector |
-> +----------------------------------+----------------------------+
-> | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, |
-> | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. |
-> | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |
->
11:35 a.m.
New subject: Martha Stewart
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Russ Blakeman wrote:
I was going to mention that but last discussion about
PS/2 towers as bed
tables and PDP's for living room stuff got nasty so I thought I'd hold that
thought :-)
Even tho I don't think they are considered "classics" quite yet...I've
thought about using some of my old SGI 4D "single tower" boxes as tables
in the den...Only hard part is hiding their huge 20A power cables if I
want to keep using them :)
-Toth
3 Dec
3 Dec
12:59 a.m.
New subject: Martha Stewart
Excellent idea! I've been contemplating using an old IRIS Crimson server as a
end table... it's just about the same size as a large mini-fridge :-)
Tothwolf said:
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Russ Blakeman wrote:
- Dan Wright
(dtwright(a)uiuc.edu)
(http://www.uiuc.edu/~dtwright)
-] ------------------------------ [-] -------------------------------- [-
``Weave a circle round him thrice, / And close your eyes with holy dread,
For he on honeydew hath fed, / and drunk the milk of Paradise.''
Samuel Taylor Coleridge, Kubla Khan
I was going to mention that but last discussion
about PS/2 towers as bed
tables and PDP's for living room stuff got nasty so I thought I'd hold that
thought :-)
Even tho I don't think they are considered "classics" quite yet...I've
thought about using some of my old SGI 4D "single tower" boxes as tables
in the den...Only hard part is hiding their huge 20A power cables if I
want to keep using them :)
-Toth 
5:07 a.m.
New subject: Martha Stewart (A badtrans Virus ????)
I was NOT really sure about this email............
Is it a w32(a)badtrans.b/mm wormvirus
or a genuine mail with attached emails?????
1) There was nothing in the body of the mail itself
2) I've had a few mails containing almost the same kinda
attachments the last week that did contain the offending
virus.
3) Looking into the source made me feel secure! OK!
------- Kind Request ----------------------------------
So please, if anybody on the list is sending mail with an
attachment, mention it and it's purpose in the bodytext
--------------------------------------------------------
I've had to remove "the bastard" from a computer of a friend
and it took me a couple of hours to clean things up.
(Windooooz ME !@&^^###Archg!!!!)
Thanx
Sipke de Wal
"So, You are paranoid?...... Well, uhhhh are you paranoid enough!"
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Ps: You'll find a "FixBtrans.exe" removal-tool in the antivirus section
of my site (symantec version). In case anybody needs it.
(Original attachments removed!)
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Wright <dtwright(a)uiuc.edu>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: Martha Stewart
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