>-The first Z-80 micro
Nope.
>-The first micro with a Winchester HD
Nope.
>-The first micro color graphics system
Yes and significant.
>-The first micro implementation of I/O channel processors
Nope, IMSAI had a 8080 in the FDC.
>-The first micro to boot from ROM without front panel switches
Nope, NS* and a slew of others. First was likely the Poly 88.
>-The first micro with integrated floppy disks
Not hardly.
Nice claims, put dates and supporting evidence up. Cromemco is best known
for The Dazzler color display, RF tight systems in solid boxes and generally
good systems.
Allison
Forgot a couple:
-First micro to implement auto-baud detection
-First micro based on Unix System V
-First micro with high-level language microprogrammable co-processor
But they did eventually also offer a PC clone... Anybody got one of
these BTW, the C-20?
mike
Dick;
Sorry about all the Apple brotherhood jumping on you with both
feet. Having been beat up for so long, we're overly sensitive :-)
Forgive us our CPU. We know not what we do.
It wasn't clear to me in your original post that you were
referring to the Apple II diskette drive, but I understand
now. And yeah - the IWM (Incredible Woz Machine) diskette
controller WAS fairly sensitive. I never owned an Apple II,
but heard about them.
Peace brother.
Craig Landrum
Richard Erlacher wrote:
> if you
> were foolish enough to set the Apple up as shown in numerous
installations, with
> the monitor atop the 2 FDD's and that pair atop the Apple box, your disk
> subsystem gave you what they (Apple Computer Co) figured you deserved.
Proud new owner of Apple ][e (my first Apple product) wants to know:
what's wrong with stacking the drive unit and display on top of the box?
Glen
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--------------Original Message-------------------
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 17:08:34 -0600
From: "John R. Keys Jr." <jrkeys(a)concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Classic Gaming Collections
I for one have enlarged my gaming collection since it's getting harder
to collect S100 and other older computer items. Every where I go now
people tell me that they can get more on eBay than my offer. Some have
called me back after trying to sell their items with no luck on eBay.<snip>
------------
Well John, don't say everywhere...
I offered a bunch of Cromemco (the folks who named the S-100 bus)
stuff here, 10 systems and probably about 100 cards, for next to nothing
or pretty reasonable prices depending on the system/card, and to my
surprise in the end I only got about 5 serious replies. I sure don't see
a reply to my last email to you off-list...
Granted, being in Toronto makes shipping of complete systems a bit
expensive, but from my perspective it's getting harder to get rid of the
stuff...
mike
In a message dated 11/6/2001 3:23:39 PM Central Standard Time,
foo(a)siconic.com writes:
> On Mon, 5 Nov 2001, Richard Erlacher wrote:
>
> <PARAGRAPH CONTAINING FALSE AND MISLEADING STATEMENTS>
> > The monitor seems to interact with the drives when the monitor is
> > turned on. It depends, I suppose, on the monitor, but I've got the
> > IIe with the dual drive box between it and the color monitor and from
> > time to time, e.g. when I turn on the monitor while the computer has
> > been powered up but the monitor has been powered down, e.g. when I go
> > upstairs to get a sandwich or answer the doorbell, the drive runs up
> > and the diskette is partially unreadable afterward.
> </PARAGRAPH CONTAINING FALSE AND MISLEADING STATEMENTS>
>
> Didn't you just get finished telling us in the last 10 messages on this
> topic that you threw out all your Apple ]'s???
>
hmmm, back in 1984 some of the apple //e's at skool had two disk drives, and
those of us who copied warez made sure to get those for quick disk copying.
(ahh, memories of disk muncher 1.1 -----) The monitor //e sat right on top of
the two disk ]['s and never a problem. Some of them also had the monitor ///
that sat on top of the //e and drives and never a problem. I also used, and
always wished for one of those //e 'professional' systems; the enhanced //e,
duodisk and colour display for the //e. The one I used never had a problem
either. I know there is some kind of problem relating to the duodisk and
disks getting trashed (anyone know details?) but nothing ever related to the
display.
clearing the HYPE about bioterrorism
www.formatc.org/terrorism.htm
On Nov 7, 18:06, Jim Davis wrote:
> I've used it to clean print heads on epson printers. Works in most
> cases. The complete rundown on 409 can be found at
> http://www.biosci.ohio-state.edu/~jsmith/MSDS/FORMULA%20409%20CLEANER.htm
> One possible problem, Sodium Hydroxide < .5% could be damaging and
> corrosive
> to metalic parts.
About the only common material that sodium hydroxide will attack is
aluminium, and then only when concentrated or exposure is reasonably long;
it has no effect on copper, steel, etc.
Unfortunately, the rundown you suggest only accounts for about 15% of the
ingredients :-(
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
> Forgive us our CPU. We know not what we do.
>
> It wasn't clear to me in your original post that you were
> referring to the Apple II diskette drive, but I understand
> now. And yeah - the IWM (Incredible Woz Machine) diskette
> controller WAS fairly sensitive. I never owned an Apple II,
> but heard about them.
Craig-
Macs up through at least the MacPlus have a single-chip
implemntation of the IWM that they used for both the
never-shipped Twiggy drives (never shipped in Macs) and
the later 400k/800k 3.5" floppies.
Just FYI...
Regards,
-dq
Hello Pete,
at first: Is it okay to continue our mailing this way (directly mailing the
messages, only CCing to Classiccmp.org? It's because I'm on the Digest and it
has been arriving at about 4 P.M. local time the last few days, which is too
late for me to stay in school and pick it up the same day (alas, don't have
Internet at home yet).
>Ah. It's quite likely there are some links on the card which have to be
>set one way to use the 10baseT port, and the other way to use the
>transceiver... Look for a set of 6 links.
No, nothing on that board. There are only two 2pin jumpers, one for printing
out the adapter's status page and one for resetting the NOVRAM contents to
the factory defaults. I think I've already seen what you mean on other network
devices (six or so 3-pin jumpers, the movable parts sometimes joined in a
blue plastic tray).
>>But no signs of overheating etc. on the PCB...
OK, I admit that was only for VISIBLE SIGNS. The LM2577-T12 (switching
voltage regulator in TO-220 package) next to the AUI port becomes TERRIBLY hot
even after < 10 minutes of running the printer.
I assume it's used to generate the voltage the Transceiver uses? But the
power light (on the transceiver) is on as long as the printer is...
And even worse...the DATA LED does no longer blink when there's traffic on
the Ethernet...
OK, I hope that helps
Arno Kletzander
Arno_1983(a)gmx.de
--
GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet.
http://www.gmx.net
> From: Chris <mythtech(a)Mac.com>
> If anyone wants it, I have a Zenith Data Systems Z-386 SX/20 available
> I can't figure out how to change the setup, so it is useless to me (if I
> can't at least get it to accept a 3.5" drive, I can't use it).
Umm, why?
Glen
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