test-drb November 2001

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by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Nov 26, 21:06, ajp166 wrote: > The undercoat is the right one. Keep in mind the color is light gray > and can look almost white in a gamma saturated picture. > > Also over the early years DEC standard gray has never been exactly > the same color. It tended to standardize over time. Thanks! That's kind of what I thought. I'll go to the car accessory shop tonight and see how close a mtch I can get. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

22 years, 7 months

Microvax, M3118-YA and pinouts

by ncherry＠home.com

I just bid on an M3118-YA (16 port Async card) and won. Will it work in a MV 3400 and does anyone know the pin outs (in case I don't get the cable)? Thanks -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry(a)home.net http://members.home.net/ncherry (Text only) http://linuxha.sourceforge.net/ (SourceForge) http://hcs.sourceforge.net/ (HCS II)

22 years, 7 months

FS: Victor Technologies Computers, Software, Documentation

by victor9000us＠yahoo.com

Please respond directly to victor9000us(a)yahoo.com The Victor 9000 was an impressive early generation 808x based PC designed by Chuck Peddle. With a (for the time) high resolution green screen no glare monitor, large 1.2mb 5 1/4" floppies, and built-in sound capabilities, it was an excellent machine. Indeed, Victor scored many early sales wins with large companies such as Ford Motor Cars. I have a considerable stash of Victor Technologies equipment, software, and documentation that I must part with. Read on... Victor Technologies Vicki Portable System ----------------------------------------- Rare Victor 9000 compatible portable (well, luggable, though smaller and lighter than the original Compaqs) >from the early 1980s. This system has dual 1.2 mb 5 1/4" floppy drives, 640KB of memory, keyboard, built-in small green screen (8" or so I think), and built-in serial and parallel ports. (Floppies are NOT PC/AT compatible, as Victors use a variable speed floppy system to achieve 1.2mb.) System is in full working order (I booted it yesterday to make sure), and comes with MS-DOS 2.11 and MS-DOS 3.1 for Vicki and diagnostics diskettes. Victor 9000 System with PlusPC IBM Compatibility Kit ---------------------------------------------------- When Victor realized that PCs and PC clones were going to become the standard, they created the PlusPC kit to retrofit Victor 9000s to become PC compatible. PlusPC systems can boot in either "V" mode, which is fully Victor compatible or "I" mode which is fully PC compatible (with the exception of not being able to format 360K diskettes). System can read and write both PC 360K diskettes and Victor 640K single side or 1.2mb double side diskettes. This Victor 9000 system has had the PlusPC kit installed. It is a dual double-sided floppy system (the PlusPC was installable only on double sided floppy machines) with 512K of RAM and built in serial and parallel ports. It comes with power cables, MS-DOS for PlusPC, MS-DOS for Victor 9000, monitor, keyboard, and manuals. The system works-- I booted it yesterday. Also included are a set of customer built, foam lined, hard sided carrying cases for the system. I also think I have the original controller board that will let you turn this back into a pure Victor 9000-- if I have it, I'll include it with the system. Victor 9000 Networking Equipment -------------------------------- I have a few (4 I think) Victor 9000 Network cards. I also have the network interface boxes, some cabling, software for DOS 1.25 and 2.11, documentation, and device driver software. The hardware was all taken >from a working network a few years ago, and I believe it all works, but I won't promise. Just about guaranteed to be incompatible with any other network hardware. ;-) Other Victor 9000 Hardware -------------------------- 1 PlusPC Kit, not installed in a system, with manuals still in shrink wrap. 2 or 3 Victor 9000 memory boards from various manufacturers. May not work (I'm sure one doesn't), but also full of memory chips. 1 Victor clock card. May or may not work. Miniscribe III hard disk. May or may not work. Victor 9000 Software and Tool Kits ---------------------------------- MS-DOS 1.25 for Victor 9000 MS-DOS 2.11 for Victor 9000 MS-DOS 3.1 for Victor 9000 CP/M-86 for Victor 9000 Victor Hard Disk Tool Kit Victor Hard Disk Tool Kit II Victor Graphics Tool Kit Victor Graphics Tool Kit II Victor Programmers Tool Kit Victor Audio Tool Kit with audio amplifier card (Allows voice recording. The victors have a built in voice playback capability.) Victor CP/M-80 system with Z-80 card. Yep, you really can run Z-80 programs on a Victor. Assorted Victor diagnostic disks Word Perfect 4.x (DOS version) for Victor 9000 with manuals Complete VictorPULSE public domain software library- over 70 disks of software, information, and documentation for Victor 9000s. Write Crane RAM disk for Victor 9000 White Crane Brooklyn bridge (PC transfer software) for Victor 9000 Fancy Font (scalable fonts from dot matrix printers) for Victor 9000 Victor Documentation -------------------- Victor Hardware Reference Manual Victor Supplementary Hardware Reference Manual (This is also available in electronic form as one of the disks in the public domain software set.) Victor Field Service Bulletins Valid Technologies Memory Board manual & diagnostics Pretty complete set of Channel 9000 (Victor User Group) newsletters Odds and Ends ------------- US Robotics Courier 2400 (external) modem. (Yes, there is communication software in all that software above-- it's in with the public domain stuff. No, it won't do TCP/IP.) US Robotics Sportster 9600 (external) modem Citizen 120D dot-matrix printer Panasonic KXP1092 dot-matrix printer Large supply of blank 5 1/4" disks. TERMS AND CONDITIONS -------------------- Make an offer. I would prefer to send it all out as one huge load or several large ones, but will consider other proposals. All items are available as is, without warranty. I've powered up the systems to make sure they work. Most other stuff should (and did the last time I used it) work unless I've made a note to the contrary. It would be a real pain to try and install and test it all again now, so I'm not. Shipping from southern New Hampshire is *your* responsibility, though I could probably be persuaded to deliver within a reasonable driving distance (an hour or less). :-) There's a lot here.... if someone wants the works (my first choice), it's probably enough for a small pallet load. You got questions? Just ask. Please respond directly to victor9000us(a)yahoo.com-- not to the mailing list. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1

22 years, 7 months

one shoe down ...

by pechter＠ureach.com

When I can't get the license files anymore, I guess my VAX goes from OpenVMS to NetBSD. Bill -- Bill Pechter Systems Administrator uReach Technologies 732-335-5432 (Work) 877-661-2126 (Fax) ---- On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Chuck McManis (cmcmanis(a)mcmanis.com) wrote: > Well the "new" Encompass site is updated and guess what, no "free DECUS" > > memberships anymore, now its $79.99 "early bird special" and $99.99 > regular > membership. No doubt when they become HP it will be even more irrelevant > to > the cause of preserving old DEC gear. I sure hope they offer lifetime > VAX > licenses at some point. > > --Chuck > > > >

22 years, 7 months

PDP-8/E questions

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

The undercoat is the right one. Keep in mind the color is light gray and can look almost white in a gamma saturated picture. Also over the early years DEC standard gray has never been exactly the same color. It tended to standardize over time. Allison -----Original Message----- From: Pete Turnbull <pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Monday, November 26, 2001 7:36 PM Subject: Re: PDP-8/E questions >On Nov 25, 1:13, Pete Turnbull wrote: > >> The front bezel (frame round the panel) has been repainted white, and the >> paint has flaked or chipped off in places, to reveal a chipped coat of >> beige paint. I'd like to refinish and respray it. What's the correct >> colour? > >On Nov 25, 1:28, Tony Duell wrote: > >> Mine is the normal DEC white colour (same as an RK05 or RX01, or... >panel). >> And I don't think it's ever been repainted > >On Nov 24, 21:03, ajp166 wrote: >> DEC gray #68 A color close to eggshell toward very light gray. > >OK, so which? White or gray? I'm inclined to believe Allison, as my RX02 >is the same colour as my QBus machines, and that's gray. But my 11/40 is >lighter than that (though still not white), and in the pictures on David >Gesswein's pages (eg http://www.pdp8.net/pdp8em/pics/topboards.shtml?small) >it looks decidely white.... > >Mine has obviously had a thick coat (undercoat?) of grey, same colour as my >RX02, 11/23plus, 11/03, 11T23, 11/34, etc; but also had a thinner coat of >white on top. > >-- >Pete Peter Turnbull > Network Manager > University of York

22 years, 7 months

Finally got a Hayes Chronograph!

by erd_6502＠yahoo.com

After much searching (and missing two that went for auction when I was on vacation), a Hayes Chronograph has finally fallen into my waiting hands. Turns out one of the people I was camping with when I was on vacation had one in the basement that he just gave me. He picked it up 7 years ago for $10 at a Hamfest. I had to resolder the AC jack and it now works great! I was contemplating writing a Perl module to front-end it (and hide the AT syntax for setting/reading it). I was curious if anyone had any suggestions about where it belongs on CPAN (since I was planning on giving the code away). I wasn't sure if it belonged in the "Time" branch or if there were a more appropriate branch for device "drivers" in Perl. I was contemplating an approach were you create a Chronograph "object" and have it set the time to either now or a given time and return the time in text or seconds-since-the-epoch format. A Perl module would also give me a place to document the command syntax for the future - currently the only thing I've seen is a single CP/M program in assembler and the scanned docs on a classiccmp member's site (Thanks muchly, Rich!). Cheers, -ethan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1

22 years, 7 months

360k versus 1.2Mb floppy drives...

by schiska＠mindspring.com

Does anyone know if there is a way to tell which is which by looking at the drive?. FTM the 720k vs 1.44Mb 3 1/2" drives. Thanks in advance... R..

22 years, 7 months

Lisa Success.....finally...

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Hellige [mailto:jhellige@earthlink.net] > Does yours have an external parallel connector or an internal > hard disk or possibly both? I'm pretty sure all Mac XL's lack the > external parallel connector, unless there's an expansion card fitted > for use with the Profile drive, and that it would be like a Lisa 2/10 That's not completely true -- at least for the Mac XL that I've seen. The plug for the internal hard disk was ran via ribbon-cable out of the case, and connected into the external port. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

22 years, 7 months

PDP-8/E questions

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Nov 25, 1:13, Pete Turnbull wrote: > The front bezel (frame round the panel) has been repainted white, and the > paint has flaked or chipped off in places, to reveal a chipped coat of > beige paint. I'd like to refinish and respray it. What's the correct > colour? On Nov 25, 1:28, Tony Duell wrote: > Mine is the normal DEC white colour (same as an RK05 or RX01, or... panel). > And I don't think it's ever been repainted On Nov 24, 21:03, ajp166 wrote: > DEC gray #68 A color close to eggshell toward very light gray. OK, so which? White or gray? I'm inclined to believe Allison, as my RX02 is the same colour as my QBus machines, and that's gray. But my 11/40 is lighter than that (though still not white), and in the pictures on David Gesswein's pages (eg http://www.pdp8.net/pdp8em/pics/topboards.shtml?small) it looks decidely white.... Mine has obviously had a thick coat (undercoat?) of grey, same colour as my RX02, 11/23plus, 11/03, 11T23, 11/34, etc; but also had a thinner coat of white on top. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

22 years, 7 months

wtb apple game paddles

by rhudson＠cnonline.net

Anyone have a set of apple game paddles, to plug in to the 9pin female port on the back of my appleiie or apple ii c plus? to spare?

22 years, 7 months

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test-drb November 2001