On Nov 26, 21:06, ajp166 wrote:
> The undercoat is the right one. Keep in mind the color is light gray
> and can look almost white in a gamma saturated picture.
>
> Also over the early years DEC standard gray has never been exactly
> the same color. It tended to standardize over time.
Thanks! That's kind of what I thought. I'll go to the car accessory shop
tonight and see how close a mtch I can get.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Please respond directly to victor9000us(a)yahoo.com
The Victor 9000 was an impressive early generation
808x based PC designed by Chuck Peddle. With a (for
the time) high resolution green screen no glare
monitor, large 1.2mb 5 1/4" floppies, and built-in
sound capabilities, it was an excellent machine.
Indeed, Victor scored many early sales wins with large
companies such as Ford Motor Cars.
I have a considerable stash of Victor Technologies
equipment, software, and documentation that I must
part with. Read on...
Victor Technologies Vicki Portable System
-----------------------------------------
Rare Victor 9000 compatible portable (well, luggable,
though smaller and lighter than the original Compaqs)
>from the early 1980s. This system has dual 1.2 mb 5
1/4" floppy drives, 640KB of memory, keyboard,
built-in small green screen (8" or so I think), and
built-in serial and parallel ports. (Floppies are NOT
PC/AT compatible, as Victors use a variable speed
floppy system to achieve 1.2mb.) System is in full
working order (I booted it yesterday to make sure),
and comes with MS-DOS 2.11 and MS-DOS 3.1 for Vicki
and diagnostics diskettes.
Victor 9000 System with PlusPC IBM Compatibility Kit
----------------------------------------------------
When Victor realized that PCs and PC clones were going
to become the standard, they created the PlusPC kit to
retrofit Victor 9000s to become PC compatible. PlusPC
systems can boot in either "V" mode, which is fully
Victor compatible or "I" mode which is fully PC
compatible (with the exception of not being able to
format 360K diskettes). System can read and write both
PC 360K diskettes and Victor 640K single side or 1.2mb
double side diskettes.
This Victor 9000 system has had the PlusPC kit
installed. It is a dual double-sided floppy system
(the PlusPC was installable only on double sided
floppy machines) with 512K of RAM and built in serial
and parallel ports. It comes with power cables, MS-DOS
for PlusPC, MS-DOS for Victor 9000, monitor, keyboard,
and manuals. The system works-- I booted it yesterday.
Also included are a set of customer built, foam lined,
hard sided carrying cases for the system. I also think
I have the original controller board that will let you
turn this back into a pure Victor 9000-- if I have it,
I'll include it with the system.
Victor 9000 Networking Equipment
--------------------------------
I have a few (4 I think) Victor 9000 Network cards. I
also have the network interface boxes, some cabling,
software for DOS 1.25 and 2.11, documentation, and
device driver software. The hardware was all taken
>from a working network a few years ago, and I believe
it all works, but I won't promise. Just about
guaranteed to be incompatible with any other network
hardware. ;-)
Other Victor 9000 Hardware
--------------------------
1 PlusPC Kit, not installed in a system, with manuals
still in shrink wrap.
2 or 3 Victor 9000 memory boards from various
manufacturers. May not work (I'm sure one doesn't),
but also full of memory chips.
1 Victor clock card. May or may not work.
Miniscribe III hard disk. May or may not work.
Victor 9000 Software and Tool Kits
----------------------------------
MS-DOS 1.25 for Victor 9000
MS-DOS 2.11 for Victor 9000
MS-DOS 3.1 for Victor 9000
CP/M-86 for Victor 9000
Victor Hard Disk Tool Kit
Victor Hard Disk Tool Kit II
Victor Graphics Tool Kit
Victor Graphics Tool Kit II
Victor Programmers Tool Kit
Victor Audio Tool Kit with audio amplifier card
(Allows voice recording. The victors have a built in
voice playback capability.)
Victor CP/M-80 system with Z-80 card. Yep, you really
can run Z-80 programs on a Victor.
Assorted Victor diagnostic disks
Word Perfect 4.x (DOS version) for Victor 9000 with
manuals
Complete VictorPULSE public domain software library-
over 70 disks of software, information, and
documentation for Victor 9000s.
Write Crane RAM disk for Victor 9000
White Crane Brooklyn bridge (PC transfer software) for
Victor 9000
Fancy Font (scalable fonts from dot matrix printers)
for Victor 9000
Victor Documentation
--------------------
Victor Hardware Reference Manual
Victor Supplementary Hardware Reference Manual (This
is also available in electronic form as one of the
disks in the public domain software set.)
Victor Field Service Bulletins
Valid Technologies Memory Board manual & diagnostics
Pretty complete set of Channel 9000 (Victor User
Group) newsletters
Odds and Ends
-------------
US Robotics Courier 2400 (external) modem. (Yes, there
is communication software in all that software above--
it's in with the public domain stuff. No, it won't do
TCP/IP.)
US Robotics Sportster 9600 (external) modem
Citizen 120D dot-matrix printer
Panasonic KXP1092 dot-matrix printer
Large supply of blank 5 1/4" disks.
TERMS AND CONDITIONS
--------------------
Make an offer. I would prefer to send it all out as
one huge load or several large ones, but will consider
other proposals.
All items are available as is, without warranty. I've
powered up the systems to make sure they work. Most
other stuff should (and did the last time I used it)
work unless I've made a note to the contrary. It would
be a real pain to try and install and test it all
again now, so I'm not.
Shipping from southern New Hampshire is *your*
responsibility, though I could probably be persuaded
to deliver within a reasonable driving distance (an
hour or less). :-) There's a lot here.... if someone
wants the works (my first choice), it's probably
enough for a small pallet load.
You got questions? Just ask.
Please respond directly to victor9000us(a)yahoo.com--
not to the mailing list.
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When I can't get the license files anymore,
I guess my VAX goes from OpenVMS to NetBSD.
Bill
--
Bill Pechter
Systems Administrator
uReach Technologies
732-335-5432 (Work)
877-661-2126 (Fax)
---- On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Chuck McManis
(cmcmanis(a)mcmanis.com) wrote:
> Well the "new" Encompass site is updated
and guess what, no "free DECUS"
>
> memberships anymore, now its $79.99 "early
bird special" and $99.99
> regular
> membership. No doubt when they become HP
it will be even more irrelevant
> to
> the cause of preserving old DEC gear. I
sure hope they offer lifetime
> VAX
> licenses at some point.
>
> --Chuck
>
>
>
>
The undercoat is the right one. Keep in mind the color is light gray
and can look almost white in a gamma saturated picture.
Also over the early years DEC standard gray has never been exactly
the same color. It tended to standardize over time.
Allison
-----Original Message-----
From: Pete Turnbull <pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com>
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Date: Monday, November 26, 2001 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: PDP-8/E questions
>On Nov 25, 1:13, Pete Turnbull wrote:
>
>> The front bezel (frame round the panel) has been repainted white, and
the
>> paint has flaked or chipped off in places, to reveal a chipped coat of
>> beige paint. I'd like to refinish and respray it. What's the correct
>> colour?
>
>On Nov 25, 1:28, Tony Duell wrote:
>
>> Mine is the normal DEC white colour (same as an RK05 or RX01, or...
>panel).
>> And I don't think it's ever been repainted
>
>On Nov 24, 21:03, ajp166 wrote:
>> DEC gray #68 A color close to eggshell toward very light gray.
>
>OK, so which? White or gray? I'm inclined to believe Allison, as my
RX02
>is the same colour as my QBus machines, and that's gray. But my 11/40
is
>lighter than that (though still not white), and in the pictures on David
>Gesswein's pages (eg
http://www.pdp8.net/pdp8em/pics/topboards.shtml?small)
>it looks decidely white....
>
>Mine has obviously had a thick coat (undercoat?) of grey, same colour as
my
>RX02, 11/23plus, 11/03, 11T23, 11/34, etc; but also had a thinner coat
of
>white on top.
>
>--
>Pete Peter Turnbull
> Network Manager
> University of York
After much searching (and missing two that went for auction when I was
on vacation), a Hayes Chronograph has finally fallen into my waiting
hands. Turns out one of the people I was camping with when I was
on vacation had one in the basement that he just gave me. He picked it
up 7 years ago for $10 at a Hamfest. I had to resolder the AC jack
and it now works great!
I was contemplating writing a Perl module to front-end it (and hide
the AT syntax for setting/reading it). I was curious if anyone had
any suggestions about where it belongs on CPAN (since I was planning
on giving the code away). I wasn't sure if it belonged in the "Time"
branch or if there were a more appropriate branch for device "drivers"
in Perl. I was contemplating an approach were you create a Chronograph
"object" and have it set the time to either now or a given time and
return the time in text or seconds-since-the-epoch format. A Perl
module would also give me a place to document the command syntax for
the future - currently the only thing I've seen is a single CP/M
program in assembler and the scanned docs on a classiccmp member's site
(Thanks muchly, Rich!).
Cheers,
-ethan
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Hellige [mailto:jhellige@earthlink.net]
> Does yours have an external parallel connector or an internal
> hard disk or possibly both? I'm pretty sure all Mac XL's lack the
> external parallel connector, unless there's an expansion card fitted
> for use with the Profile drive, and that it would be like a Lisa 2/10
That's not completely true -- at least for the Mac XL that I've seen. The
plug for the internal hard disk was ran via ribbon-cable out of the case,
and connected into the external port.
Regards,
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
On Nov 25, 1:13, Pete Turnbull wrote:
> The front bezel (frame round the panel) has been repainted white, and the
> paint has flaked or chipped off in places, to reveal a chipped coat of
> beige paint. I'd like to refinish and respray it. What's the correct
> colour?
On Nov 25, 1:28, Tony Duell wrote:
> Mine is the normal DEC white colour (same as an RK05 or RX01, or...
panel).
> And I don't think it's ever been repainted
On Nov 24, 21:03, ajp166 wrote:
> DEC gray #68 A color close to eggshell toward very light gray.
OK, so which? White or gray? I'm inclined to believe Allison, as my RX02
is the same colour as my QBus machines, and that's gray. But my 11/40 is
lighter than that (though still not white), and in the pictures on David
Gesswein's pages (eg http://www.pdp8.net/pdp8em/pics/topboards.shtml?small)
it looks decidely white....
Mine has obviously had a thick coat (undercoat?) of grey, same colour as my
RX02, 11/23plus, 11/03, 11T23, 11/34, etc; but also had a thinner coat of
white on top.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
