> To the person with the
> manuals, could you go through and post the model numbers for the
> items that the manuals go with?
Against all sane logic on my part, i've managed to grab most if not all the
manuals that were in the hallway. I'm not sure what you mean by model
numbers, as most of this stuff reads like greek ;)
All manuals have a 4955 on the label outside the binders, is that what you
mean? Or were you asking about every sub-manual in each binder?
I have one large set (10+ binders), possibly incomplete, of 'board and
card logics'. I have 3 copies of MLD, Logic, Volume 1. 3 copies of SYT,
System Test, Volume 4 (though one appears to be an index different than
the other 2 copies). I have 4 copies of TDM, Theory, Volume 5.
And i have several copies of MLM, MAP/MIM, Volume 2. These are usually a
2 binder set, but there is a 3 bunder set, and some individual ones, so
i'm confused for now. No time to read these over right now.
I have at least 2 copies of Event Driven Executive, Operators Reference.
One copy of Event Driven Executive, Messages and Codes. One copy of
Event Driven Executive, System Guide. i have a few more manuals at
home, so i may have more copies of these or other things.
I have a package of 10 small brass jumpers, PN 4410751.
Small stuff ============
General purpose Interface Bus (GPIB) adapter - RPQ D02118. custom feature.
4966 autoloader diskette storage unit IR functional unit and cause code guide
4966 diskette magazine unit parts catalog
diskette magazine unit 4966 unit installation instructions
4979 display station parts catalog
4979 display station instalation instructions (and a plastic adjustment tool)
4962 disk storage unit partsw catalog (and a pack of 6 wire jumpers about
4 inches long, plus a package of 2 test wires i guess)
4974 printer parts catalog (plus package containing one small bolt, package
containing one lock washer, package containing 4 long wire jumpers,
package containing steel wool lined cable clamp)
-Lawrence LeMay
So my new VLC has a different frame buffer (for some reason I thought they
were all the same). This one has a little switch on it and flat ram chips
(all the others have a row of soldered in SIPs for ram and no switch.
Anyone know what the difference is? Zane?
--Chuck
On August 15, Mzthompson(a)aol.com wrote:
> The two drives in question are indeed 8mm, but only support the 8200
> format. Can anybody enlighten me on that, who used that format, etc.
That means "the format used by the Exabyte 8200 8mm drive". Lots of
things used (and still use) those drives...just about every computer
company in existence used Exabyte drives at one time or another over
the past ten years. They're standard SCSI and fast enough to be
quite useful...if you don't sell 'em to that guy, they're nice
drives for running backups. 2.3gb per tape, and very
well-understood by the world at large.
I can't imagine that the other guy is having problems finding them,
though...they're all over the place.
-Dave McGuire
On August 15, Shawn T. Rutledge wrote:
> > > Last chance before all VAXen become classic.... :-)
> >
> > Sad, of course, but...
> > Are they putting them out at close-out prices?
>
> I didn't see any evidence of that. Maybe next year the extras will show
> up on some auction site or something.
So what *is* their current pricing? Yes, I'm too lazy to point my
browser at their web server... ;-)
-Dave McGuire
Last chance before all VAXen become classic.... :-)
----- Forwarded message from glen mccready <gkm(a)blackdown.org> -----
To: 0xdeadbeef(a)blackdown.org
Subject: Last chance.
Forwarded-by: Nev Dull <nev(a)sleepycat.com>
Forwarded-by: Aharon Robbins <arnold(a)skeeve.com>
From: Andreas Strahm <andreas.strahm(a)siemens.ch>
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Last order dates for VAX systems
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 09:51:29 +0200
Just for information:
<
Last order dates for VAX systems
VAX 4000, MicroVAX 3100 - 88 and 3100-98 models
VAX 4000, MicroVAX 3100-88, and MicroVAX 3100-98 systems
and all associated options are being retired.
Limited supply will be supported on a first come,
first serve basis.
Last order date: September 30, 2000
Last ship date: December 31, 2000
>
Source: http://www.compaq.com/alphaserver/vax/vax_dates.html
Regards,
Andreas Strahm,
Software Engineer
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
http://www.openvms.digital.com/wizard/wiz_1378.html
The last VAX microprocessor chips have been built.
----- End forwarded message -----
--
_______ Shawn T. Rutledge / KB7PWD ecloud(a)bigfoot.com
(_ | |_) http://www.bigfoot.com/~ecloud kb7pwd(a)kb7pwd.ampr.org
__) | | \________________________________________________________________
Get money for spare CPU cycles at http://www.ProcessTree.com/?sponsor=5903
A few weeks ago I got a call from a company (I know a lot of the
folks there) saying they wanted to get rid of the DEC library.
That amounted to a carload of books and tapes. I asked if they
were getting rid of the books, then what about the equipment.
They said as soon as the paperwork comes through. Later I sent
them an email asking that they not tear down the equipment, but
rather let me know as soon as possible and I will tear it down
and have it out of their way pronto. That way I could make notes
as what goes with what. They agreed.
When I went in to get the equipment last week, they had left the
stuff intact and went even one better. They ran a printout of
DEC stuff off their inventory database and handed that to me.
They also took digital photos of the equipment showing all the
cabling, printed those and handed them to me also. They also
pulled all the boxes of DEC spares, cables, adapters, etc. and
set them out for me. This beats dumpster diving to hell & back.
Books - A complete set of Ultrix books & a few hardware manuals.
When I picked up the equipment they allowed me to rummage through
their library and snatch any DEC manuals they had overlooked earlier.
DEC Eq. - Some 5000's (/133 & /200), a couple DS3100, 8 expansion
boxes containing 9 RZ drives and 4 tape drives, and associated
keyboards, mice and cables.
Q: The 5000/133 has the space to mount a couple RX2x drives. Of
course I need mounting brackets. I thought I would try to locate
a couple before concocting my own. Anybody got a part number for
that mounting bracket, or any clues as to where you can locate
things like this? I can scrounge the equipment, but the piddly
stuff like this and some cables are often harder to find.
Non DEC - They decided to get rid of another box. It is a tape
duplicator, and at first was skeptical of hauling home something
that may prove more hassles than worth. After opening it up, I
went tee-hee tee-hee. It is a tower case, only BIG. Has a
20 slot ISA-AT bus, one of those industrial strength jobs. In
that is a 386/33 CPU board, a couple I/O boards and I believe
multiple SCSI cards. There is a Seagate ST21400 hard drive in
the bottom. Out front is the drive bays with room for 11 half
height drives. Mounted there is two TZ30's, two 1/4" cartridge
drives 525mb, and two drives which I think are 8mm, and 1 lowly
3.5 floppy. On the back are: 5 pin Din, 9 pin serial, and 15 pin
video connector. With that I then realized this is nothing more
than a big Intel box, probably loaded with MS-DOS, maybe Windows,
and apparently the software needed to duplicate multiple tape
formats. The latest date code I could find was '95. I have not
fired it up yet, but this may prove to be a nice box to have around.
The catch is no documentation. In fact I can not even find a
model/serial no tag on it anywhere. All I know is that it was
made by a outfit called Duplication Technology, located in Boulder.
(1 hour later)
Darn, I love this technology. A web search yield a phone no that
led to a gal who knew the history of the original company, and who
gave another phone no. That led to the engineer in another company
who put this thing together. I gave him the name of the company
(back when it was purchased) and he pulled it up on his database and
rattled the specs. No model/serial because each was custom built for
the customer.
The two drives in question are indeed 8mm, but only support the 8200
format. Can anybody enlighten me on that, who used that format, etc.
The kicker was that he offered me $75-100 ea for some of the drives.
His stock to support legacy systems is dwindling.
Mike
hello !
I got two pdp-11/24, one for 110 Volts and one for
220 Volts circuits. I live in an area with 220V
circuits, so it would be much easier for me to use the one
driven by 220V. unfortunately all the interesting cards
are in the 110V version. now my question is:
can I exchange any card between the two pdps or do I also have to
exchange the backplanes ?
thanks for help,
Andreas
--
*********************************************************
* Andreas Mueller *
* *
* Multi-Media-Labor || Uni-Tuebingen *
* phone: +49 7071-2978567 or +49 7071-2977821 *
*********************************************************
I had a phenomenal day at Goodwill today. I got a TRS-80 Model III with printer, TRS-80 Model 4P, HP Portable Plus, and a Commodore 128D. What I did not get but need is:
A keyboard for the Commodore 128D
A Power Supply For The HP Portable Plus
A Boot Disk For The TRS-80 Model 4P
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
Owen
Sellam, quoting Chuck:
>> Nope, this is fraud plain and simple. What was sold was an electronic
>> "prop" used in furniture stores to highlight how a piece of furniture might
>> look at home. I've seen a variety of things from color TVs to Amiga's done
>> up this way. Usually on the bottom is the sticker from the company
>> (Proptronics usually, but there are others) that created it. Some of their
>> more interesting ones are color TVs with a color picture in the "tube" and
>> a light bulb behind it. The boring ones are all cardboard.
>>
>> If I were you I'd contact the seller and ask for a refund.
>
> I agree with Chuck here. You were out & out defrauded. Luckily for you,
> you're within beating distance of this guy. Ideally you're in the same
> county, and you can threaten him with a complaint to the District Attorney
> (in the States, he's the top prosecutor for the county one lives in...you
> don't generally have THE D.A. prosecute your case (unless he/she wants to
> set an example with your case) but your complaint is referred to the
> D.A.'s office for follow-up by one of the prosecutors there...anyway,
> enough of American Gubment 101).
>
> If he refuses to follow through with the refund, file the complaint. As
> Chuck suggests, you can also file a claim with the Post Office which will
> follow up on this.
>
> Jim, don't settle for anything less here. You were defrauded by this
> person, whether it was intentional on his part or not. $200+ is way too
> much money to be spent on a piece of plywood. Get your money back.
Hang on. In principle I agree with Chuck and Sam, but you can cause a lot of
trouble by using the wrong words. To start with, DON'T accuse this guy of fraud
until you have had at least two more goes at getting your money back!
I am not a lawyer, and certainly not an American lawyer, but I claim you have
missed the difference between FRAUD and MISREPRESENTATION.
What you have here is misrepresentation - the seller has claimed the item is a
computer, when it actually isn't.
English law makes a distinction between the civil offence "Innocent
misrepresentation" - the seller genuinely did not intend to sell you a dud - and
the criminal offence "Fraudulent misrepresentation" - the seller actually
intended to defraud you. (A lot of English law depends on intent - very hard to
prove, but...)
In a case of innocent misrepresentation, the sale is voidable - you can sue for
your money back, and you have to return the goods essentially undamaged
(excepting cases like a machine that died when you tried to use it because it
was misrepresented as being suitable for the job).
In a case of fraudulent misrepresentation, the penalties can be higher -
including consequential losses - and I think the seller can even go to jail.
I can see that you're going to be annoyed paying $200 for a box with no
circuitry in it. But don't start accusing people of crimes like fraud until you
have exhausted other avenues...
I suggest you find out what the American equivalent of innocent
misrepresentation is called, and accuse him of that - privately first, and then
backed by lawyers and the courts. Again, in the UK a matter of $200 (plus costs
of course) would be the province of the Small Claims Court, but I don't know how
it works in the US.
Have fun :-(
Philip.
________________________ Disclaimer Notice ____________________________
This E-mail message is private and confidential and should only be read
by those to whom it is addressed.
If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any
dissemination, distribution, copying, reproduction, modification or
publication of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please delete
the message from your computer and destroy any copies.
This message is not intended to be relied upon by any person without
subsequent written confirmation of its contents. This company therefore
disclaims all responsibility and accepts no liability of any kind which
may arise from any person acting, or refraining from acting, upon the
contents of the message without having had subsequent written
confirmation.
If you have received this communication in error, or if any problems
occur in transmission please notify us immediately by telephone on
+44 (0)24 76 424000
I've still got two TI Silent 700s (one model
765 with the 80K bubble memory add-on, one
plain model 745; pics of the 765 at
http://www.decvax.org/ti/) that need a good
home... anybody wanna swap something for them
that will make em worth packing up and shipping?
Also, dunno if it meets the 10 year rule, but
I've got a HP 9000 715/33 here that I cant even
*give* away; anybody need one?
Bill
--
+-------------------\ /-----------------+
| Bill Bradford | www.sunhelp.org |
| mrbill(a)mrbill.net | www.decvax.org |
| Austin, Texas USA | www.pdp11.org |
+-------------------/ \-----------------+
