Aaron:
I received the "card", awhile ago.
Thanks!
Jeff
On Thu, 22 Jun 2000 00:55:49 -0700 (PDT) Aaron Nabil
<nabil(a)spiritone.com> writes:
>
> 2 of the shorter RT-11 pocket reference guides.
>
> Free. Email me directly. Include mailing address.
>
> --
> Aaron Nabil
>
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In a message dated 7/10/00 1:09:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
ethan_dicks(a)yahoo.com writes:
> --- "Paul R. Santa-Maria" <paulrsm(a)ameritech.net> wrote:
> > ----------
> > > From: Ethan Dicks <ethan_dicks(a)yahoo.com>
> > > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> > > Subject: Re: Networking Apple IIc or IIc+
> > > Date: Friday, July 07, 2000 04:52 PM
> > >
> > There were three versions of the Apple IIgs: ROM 00, ROM 01, and ROM 03.
> > ROM 00 and ROM 01 have the same hardware with a different ROM. The ROM
03
> > had different hardware (more memory on the motherboard, for example) and
> > you cannot convert an earlier version to a ROM 03.
>
> Looking around on the motherboard - my IIgs has 128K of "Standard Ram", 64K
> "Sound RAM", 128K "Fast RAM" an Apple-brand memory card 1/4 full of 256Kx1
> chips (256Kb out of 1Mb) and the following stenciled on the ROM -
"342-0077B
> /
> M231001-243P 743100 / (C) Apple 78, 81, 83, 86, 87 / (C) Microsoft 77"
>
> Presumably from your comments, the ROM-03 motherboard has more RAM than _
> that_.
>
> There are two jumpers on the Apple RAM card - J1 and J2; and a jumper on
the
> motherboard under the power supply - W1.
>
> Oh... per our recent discussions here, the IIgs _does_ have a Z8530 SCC
> onboard
>
>
> > A ROM 03 is considered the best if you are going to run GS/OS, the Apple
> > IIgs 16-bit native operating system. I am happy with my ROM 01 since I
> use
> > it like an 8-bit Apple IIe.
>
> But what's the difference between ROM 01 and ROM 02? Is it possible to get
> either an authentic replacement chip or to locate an image file and burn my
> own?
>
> Thanks,
>
> -ethan
>
I remember there being a ROM upgrade for the GS models. Presumably it was
just a chip swap. I have no more info about it though.
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--- "Paul R. Santa-Maria" <paulrsm(a)ameritech.net> wrote:
> ----------
> > From: Ethan Dicks <ethan_dicks(a)yahoo.com>
> > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> > Subject: Re: Networking Apple IIc or IIc+
> > Date: Friday, July 07, 2000 04:52 PM
> >
> There were three versions of the Apple IIgs: ROM 00, ROM 01, and ROM 03.
> ROM 00 and ROM 01 have the same hardware with a different ROM. The ROM 03
> had different hardware (more memory on the motherboard, for example) and
> you cannot convert an earlier version to a ROM 03.
Looking around on the motherboard - my IIgs has 128K of "Standard Ram", 64K
"Sound RAM", 128K "Fast RAM" an Apple-brand memory card 1/4 full of 256Kx1
chips (256Kb out of 1Mb) and the following stenciled on the ROM - "342-0077B /
M231001-243P 743100 / (C) Apple 78, 81, 83, 86, 87 / (C) Microsoft 77"
Presumably from your comments, the ROM-03 motherboard has more RAM than _that_.
There are two jumpers on the Apple RAM card - J1 and J2; and a jumper on the
motherboard under the power supply - W1.
Oh... per our recent discussions here, the IIgs _does_ have a Z8530 SCC onboard
> A ROM 03 is considered the best if you are going to run GS/OS, the Apple
> IIgs 16-bit native operating system. I am happy with my ROM 01 since I use
> it like an 8-bit Apple IIe.
But what's the difference between ROM 01 and ROM 02? Is it possible to get
either an authentic replacement chip or to locate an image file and burn my
own?
Thanks,
-ethan
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high, and about 4' x 3' or so. It runs on 220VAC at what appears to
be many amps. Inside (the parts I could see - it's still in use at
the moment) were several cards in slots, a physically large hard
drive, a monster power supply, a tape drive, and some other bits.
What I could see was:
Priam P/N 330352 hard drive
ROLM 40311 Phone Mail System
Voice Compression I/O Card
8 Channel Voice Card
AP 4MB RAM 41508
System Processor II 41002
Unless it's to go to the junkyard, I need to let them know by Friday
(tomorrow) sometime. The hard drive is making "bad bearing" noises,
and the voice mail has started to "stutter". They found a newer box
to replace it that's about the size of a bread box for less than a
refurb hard drive would cost. I'm not sure what I'd do with it, but
if it's got anything useful in it, I'd try to salvage it for someone
else, if they can arrange shipping.
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I'm sorting through and clearing out a few things but first I have a
Tandy DMP 430 printer. It's one of the 132 col printers. It also has
one of those noise-reducing printer cabinets. It's pretty big and
heavy so free to anyone in the Houston, TX area that would like to
pick it up. I guess I could ship it if someone really, really wanted it
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It is generally believed that the Apple Lisa is what spurred Bill Gates to
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> From: John R. Keys Jr. <jrkeys(a)concentric.net>
> > Look for Woz editions and rom 3.
You can take the Woz cover off of any IIgs and put it on any other IIgs.
This is important for collectors who desire absolutely factory original
equipment.
Add to the list any non-Apple brand IIgs memory card. The Apple card can
only hold a maximum of one megabyte, but other brands can hold more, some
up to a maximum of eight megabytes. Some IIgs cards use weird memory
(i.e., SIP) so you may be able to use the chips in another same card that
is not filled.
----------
> From: Sellam Ismail <foo(a)siconic.com>
> I can't think of any logical reason why the //c ould be more popular than
> the //c+ anywhere. The //c+ is so much better than the //c on so many
> levels.
>
> Any idea what the deal is?
The IIc+ had no international version (USA power spec only) and was not
available outside the continental USA--not even Alaska, Hawaii, or Canada
(or so says another post I just read elsewhere on the Internet).
Paul R. Santa-Maria
Ann Arbor, Michigan USA
paulrsm(a)ameritech.net
How much was the Atari 800XE? If shipping isn't too mush for the SE/30, then sure. Got any estimate on shipping costs?
Thanks,
Owen
-----Original Message-----
From: Marion Bates <Marion.Bates(a)dartmouth.edu>
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Date: Saturday, July 08, 2000 8:53 PM
Subject: Never mind!
Hey! Found a TI99 power supply in a new thrift store tonight. But thank you anyway! I also saw an Atari 800XE and an assortment of old PC clones, plus some old videogame stuff if you're interested.
Do you still want the SE/30?
Thanks again,
-- MB
